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I honestly feel like we're seeing the same sort of pretentiousness and lack-of-clarity from the DC creators that we saw back in 2009 which led to the entire dissolution of the post-Crisis status quo because they hosed everyone up to the point that rebooting it all was almost a mercy. Like, I know there's still a lot of good books going on right now. But if DC's okay with publishing...y'know...the stuff that's in HiC and touting it as their big drat great unmissable flagship event, then I categorically do not see the difference between them and the DC that published Cry for Justice and bragged up and down the street about how great that was.
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It's still a largely isolated thing. There's been a tie-in issue of Green Arrow, and Titans had one panel of Donna next to a grave, or something. I'd say it's surprisingly not a mega-event compared to the tie-ins and side stories to Metal or even the bat wedding. You'd never know anything was happening if you just read Justice League and the main trinity books (though I'm sure it'll come back to 'Batman') which has probably never been the case for a general event miniseries. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Nov 28, 2018 |
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Is Mister Miracle misery porn? I've been looking forward to reading the TPB for over a year, based on the almost universally-excellent reviews. For the record, I have enjoyed King's Batman except for hating the Booster Gold story, loved Grayson and Sheriff of Babylon, liked Vision, and couldn't get into Omega Men, but I'm a big fan of Scott and Barda from their JLI days.
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Nov 28, 2018 05:29
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:Is Mister Miracle misery porn? I've been looking forward to reading the TPB for over a year, based on the almost universally-excellent reviews. It's a miserable and gruesome war comic and a cute and funny slice of life domestic one in about equal measure. It's his most 'This Is Life (Through A Superhero Metaphor): The Comic' comic.
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My friend is in a running argument over this silly question and I wondered if anyone could provide an answer. When Batman is on a long mission and not able to keep to schedule, how does he go to the toilet? The current arguments revolve around a suit waste management system, the car has a toilet, he just pops off a panel in the seat of his suit or he uses his ninja abilities to regulate his body so perfectly that he can just hold on indefinitely. This is a real discussion that has been going for a week irl. I am not a crackpot. e: oh the other argument is that he takes digestive regulating drugs VVVVV yeah I'd like to know this too JBP fucked around with this message at 05:52 on Nov 28, 2018 |
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Nov 28, 2018 05:45
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What about Superman? Does he need to poop?
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bad day posted:What about Superman? Does he need to poop? It was brought up somewhere that his system is so efficient that he rarely has waste.
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Nov 28, 2018 05:53
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So how is Batman both in a full body cast in justice League and also totally fine in the other series? I feel like I may have asked this already, but which one is occurring later? I'm assuming Justice League.
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Nov 28, 2018 05:57
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Rhyno posted:It was brought up somewhere that his system is so efficient that he rarely has waste. Yeah I figured he lived on photosynthesis like a plant? Does he eat?
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Nov 28, 2018 05:58
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I bet when he does poop it’s like a single pellet so heavy it smashes any but the most formidable toilets.
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Nov 28, 2018 06:05
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Covok posted:So how is Batman both in a full body cast in justice League and also totally fine in the other series? I feel like I may have asked this already, but which one is occurring later? I'm assuming Justice League. There comes a time in every young person's life when they let go of continuity between comic books. Nobody in Bendis' Superman comics is gonna mention how Metropolis happened to be flooded and they were all turned into fish people between issues. It's good that way. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Nov 28, 2018 |
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Nov 28, 2018 06:19
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Covok posted:So how is Batman both in a full body cast in justice League and also totally fine in the other series? I feel like I may have asked this already, but which one is occurring later? I'm assuming Justice League. Not only this but why are they claiming some comics are delayed needing rewrites for continuity issues when this poo poo is happening in Justice League and every other book is ignoring poo poo like the entire earth flooding but there’s yet another Gordon in danger plot that’s crossing over like three books and where’s the most recent Batgirl? Did I miss it getting cancelled?
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Also, the moon blew up and I think is still a bit blown up. I'd love for someone to shake a folder at Snyder/Jim Lee/Dan Didio at a panel, filled with clippings of perfectly undisturbed moons from current DC comics. Oracle posted:where’s the most recent Batgirl? Did I miss it getting cancelled? Next issue is out tomorrow. and it's still going in the latest solicits https://www.newsarama.com/42789-dc-comics-february-2019-solicitations.html Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Nov 28, 2018 |
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Nov 28, 2018 06:36
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Teenage Fansub posted:It's still a largely isolated thing. There's been a tie-in issue of Green Arrow, and Titans had one panel of Donna next to a grave, or something. Flash is apparently tying into it and, well, if you were following Wally from his return in Rebirth you get kind of roped into it since he's persona non grata elsewhere.
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HIC is out. If you're following vicariously, It's a flashback issue to the day preceding the incident. End of the comic, new page every line: Wally's AI/robot therapy daughter tells him that his origin sounds silly and doesn't make sense. He agrees. We hear an alert telling everyone to evacuate during a D-lister's therapy session. Wally runs to the entrance of Sanctuary yelling "No!" while living disguised patients look on. We're in Booster's therapy session where he's fighting with a projection of himself and he notices the alarm. The D-lister from before is on the front lawn looking over dead people and gets stabbed by some sword or pole projectile. We don't see from who. Wally is on the porch cradling a dead Roy saying "Why did it... the kids... I didn't want to be alone." Then the page posted above where Wally's cracked on the head. I don't think you can't EXACTLY extrapolate what's going on from what we're shown, like the earlier theory about Wally. But my guess: The AI/robots were actualizing the people that the residents were summoning in their therapy and attacking in some sort of broken logic about heroes needing attachments or giving them what they need. I guess the thing that got the fish guy could have been a super-fast hand, but it really looked like a sword or pole, which I think would make it more than just Wally or the Flash kids. Also, while the therapy scene did seem to clear Booster, we've heard Harley say she saw Booster killing, and since he chose to do therapy with a duplicate of himself, that could fit. edit: Re-reading what Lagoon Boy (aforementioned D-lister, fish guy) told Sanctuary absolutely makes me think it's just the AI's messed up benevolence. His therapy is getting blasted by an energy bolt over and over (based on past trauma) and he comes to say that maybe when it comes again in the real world it won't hurt. He'll be real and his fear won't, and he'll laugh. Then that's pretty much how he dies outside Sanctuary. Here's my real good fan fiction ending: If the therapy is built on Psycho-Pirate mask tech, maybe Pirate is hunted down and reveals that the event 'activating' had nothing to do with him, it's just something that happened because Batman didn't know what he was implementing. Bruce is then locked up in Arkham, and that's the setting for the end of King's Batman run  edit: Also, Bane becomes the White Lantern, resurrects everyone and takes Batman's place in the Justice League!!! Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 12:17 on Nov 28, 2018 |
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Nov 28, 2018 09:40
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Codependent Poster posted:I don't know why DC decided to make another Identity Crisis. It's been about 14 years, but don't forget that, at the time, Identity Crisis a) was immensely successful; b) for the most part, was highly acclaimed; and c) was one of the books Didio ranked in the 10 most important of his first decade in charge at DC. I imagine Identity Crisis probably still has very passionate defenders, though I'm not sure. I liked it when I was 13 but decided subsequently that it wasn't very good.
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IC gave birth to BSS so uh.... Yeah that's probably not a good defense of it.
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"The story so far: In the early 21st century Identity Crisis was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move."
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JBP posted:My friend is in a running argument over this silly question and I wondered if anyone could provide an answer.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I imagine Identity Crisis probably still has very passionate defenders, though I'm not sure.
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I was a pretty down on most of Drowned Earth, but I thought today's ending was quite entertaining. In terms of these lil JL/Whatever events, I'd put it above Witching Hour.
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Wheat Loaf posted:It's been about 14 years, but don't forget that, at the time, Identity Crisis a) was immensely successful; b) for the most part, was highly acclaimed; and c) was one of the books Didio ranked in the 10 most important of his first decade in charge at DC. HIC has adamant defenders on reddit already.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:It definitely does, based on what I've seen on Reddit. Huh. I am sort of surprised. I like the art in Identity Crisis and it has some good individual scenes but it's just a comic I have a hard time imagining people defending passionately.  Like, I could apply the first half of the above description to something like Killing Joke, but I can definitely imagine people being very avid defenders of that one. Not so much Identity Crisis.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Huh. I am sort of surprised. I like the art in Identity Crisis and it has some good individual scenes but it's just a comic I have a hard time imagining people defending passionately. IIRC Identity Crisis was the hottest stuff around for the first half at least, and the amount of people troubled by the rape stuff or not confident in the story's ability to resolve itself in a satisfying way were far outnumbered by people who were either all-in or just curious enough to see how it played out.
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If anyone finds it hard to believe that Identity Crisis has defenders/fans, come to North Carolina and we’ll do a circuit of my local shops. You can see the madness firsthand.
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Teenage Fansub posted:I was a pretty down on most of Drowned Earth, but I thought today's ending was quite entertaining. Yeah, I haven;t read the last issue of it yet, but I sometimes like to just read an overblown comic book storyline without having it leak into every comic a publisher is putting out. Drowned Earth has been pretty fun.
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I am curious about what the fans of Identity Crisis think about the reveal, because I have no idea how you can you defend that poo poo.
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Madkal posted:I am curious about what the fans of Identity Crisis think about the reveal, because I have no idea how you can you defend that poo poo. Most of what became BSS were still stuck on the stupid Deathstroke fight by the time that happened so reactions were uh....not great.
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Can't wait for the reveal of the true JLA baddie, Dr. Owned Earth.
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I feel like Bendis' Superman editors are too intimidated to edit him. Wouldn't you change that offpanel bubble to: "...connecting it to me?" And I don't know how this person has a HERO dial if she just said The Question took it from her.  But anyway, Ryan Sook art, The Question and a Hero dial. Good ish regardless. Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Nov 28, 2018 |
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Teenage Fansub posted:I feel like Bendis' Superman editors are too intimidated to edit him. Its the counterfeit dial her mook tried to sell her.
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Unless I'm missing something, she was 'just about to buy' a dial, Question took it, and she's swinging back to talk about that dial she was about to buy being counterfeit, so if there was just one dial, did the Question take it or did she just hand it to her boss?
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Nov 28, 2018 20:47
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JBP posted:My friend is in a running argument over this silly question and I wondered if anyone could provide an answer. My father, for the last 20 years of his life, was a quadriplegic. Often times quads and paraplegics are on a once or twice a week bowel routine. My dad took drugs to keep him from pooping, then every Wednesday night he’d have a suppository and some stool softeners and take a humongous poo poo all day on Thursday. Since Batman’s super powers include money and planning, its possible he’s on a similar routine.
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Could use an extra line about the mook turning out to have a briefcase full of counterfeit dials.
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chaosapiant posted:My father, for the last 20 years of his life, was a quadriplegic. Often times quads and paraplegics are on a once or twice a week bowel routine. My dad took drugs to keep him from pooping, then every Wednesday night he’d have a suppository and some stool softeners and take a humongous poo poo all day on Thursday. Since Batman’s super powers include money and planning, its possible he’s on a similar routine. Everyone talks about Bruce going to Nanda Parbat and being spiritually reborn on the 49th day of Thögal, but it turns out the 50th day is the real kicker.
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Rhyno posted:It was brought up somewhere that his system is so efficient that he rarely has waste. Someone please find this
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Madkal posted:I am curious about what the fans of Identity Crisis think about the reveal, because I have no idea how you can you defend that poo poo. Most of the don't think about it or analyse it in detail. Lots of people have nostalgia for it because it was "serious" or whatever, and haven't re-examined it. Same goes for Hush, which lots of people read as one of their first Batman stories and which is constantly recommended despite being dumb as hell.
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Teenage Fansub posted:Also, the moon blew up and I think is still a bit blown up. For whatever it's worth, Superman rebuilt the moon in Justice League #9.
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