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My current game is weird. The Muhallabids just managed to break free from Chinese tributary status as the Byzzies got subjugated, but before that the Western Protectorate extended all the way to Morocco and we haven't finished the 9th century yet. Does anybody know when the Pagan GHW era starts, by the way? I'm sick of looking at my "Conquer the Slav bastards" CB and not being able to trigger it. I'm really going to need to stomp Carpathia and Khazaria in a hurry this game the way China is pushing.
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Jedit posted:My current game is weird. The Muhallabids just managed to break free from Chinese tributary status as the Byzzies got subjugated, but before that the Western Protectorate extended all the way to Morocco and we haven't finished the 9th century yet. Either Crusades or Jihas must be unlocked. After that, it's an event with a 10 year MTTH.
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Nov 28, 2018 12:33
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Ah, it was only a matter of time. https://twitter.com/longgameshort/status/1067453657040543745
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Nov 28, 2018 13:02
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Broken Cog posted:How exactly do you merge bloodlines if they're not matrilineally transferable. The way patrilineal bloodline inheritance works is that a father with that blood will pass it on to his children regardless of his marriage type. A woman with a patrilineal bloodline will pass it on if her child is the product of a matrilineal marriage, so if both parents have separate patrilineal bloodlines then they will both go to the child.
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Nov 28, 2018 13:49
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On a different note, I wonder if all the map changes messed with the SPQR cheevo? I'm pretty certain I've got all the territory and I don't have imperial reconquest CB on anyone else but it's not popping. I made sure to look all around to confirm there were no stray baronies too.
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Nov 28, 2018 13:55
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Gobblecoque posted:On a different note, I wonder if all the map changes messed with the SPQR cheevo? I'm pretty certain I've got all the territory and I don't have imperial reconquest CB on anyone else but it's not popping. I made sure to look all around to confirm there were no stray baronies too. Imperial reconquest only works on other Christians. You can use holy wars against infidels after all. Check is some pagans hold land in Northern Europe that you need for the achievement.
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Nov 28, 2018 14:02
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No, it's only against Muslims that it doesn't work.
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Nov 28, 2018 14:14
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Broken Cog posted:How exactly do you merge bloodlines if they're not matrilineally transferable. Both parents pass both types in a matrilineal marriage
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Nov 28, 2018 14:27
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Torrannor posted:Either Crusades or Jihas must be unlocked. After that, it's an event with a 10 year MTTH. So what you're saying is that I should go conquer Rome.
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Nov 28, 2018 14:43
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pidan posted:CK2: Holy Fury - your Pope is a bad Pope. Anyone got that event from the Dev diaries where an evil pope makes an open cannibal kinslayer a saint and plunges Catholicsm into a continent wide civil war? Is that event chain working? Meanwhile, in my last pre-Holy Fury game, the HRE marches on 
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Nov 28, 2018 15:22
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THE BAR posted:Women can't be the Kwisatz Haderach! She's abomination! ah, poo poo I suppose you're right. Been forever since I read Dune. This probably means something horrible will happen to her. Broken Cog posted:How exactly do you merge bloodlines if they're not matrilineally transferable. 1) ID someone with the bloodline you want and get them into your court 2) Matri-marry them to someone, preferably of your dynasty 2a) Bloodlines will now transfer to the kid no matter what 3) Keep breeding the line until you're ready to fold it into your main line 4) Repeat The hardest is step 1 as it can be maddeningly hard to get people into your court. I had to get one of the bloodlines by capturing someone's wife in a siege, making her a concubine, killing her husband and then force marrying her to someone in my dynasty. Also if it's not apparent, women are super crucial for this strategy to work. You may want to be Enatic to make it easier. axeil fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Nov 28, 2018 |
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Nov 28, 2018 15:25
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Turns out I'm an idiot, there was one rogue barony hiding out in the alps. drat those tiny shields that don't appear unless you zoom way in.
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Nov 28, 2018 15:59
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Gobblecoque posted:Turns out I'm an idiot, there was one rogue barony hiding out in the alps. drat those tiny shields that don't appear unless you zoom way in. A lot of times there can be a hidden duchy title that doesn't show up as well because the person you need to usurp it from isn't at peace, so you don't have the option to.
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Nov 28, 2018 16:07
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axeil posted:1) ID someone with the bloodline you want and get them into your court
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Playing a shattered-realm, full random religion game as Kurdish-Tengri. I reformed Tengri, which gets Eternal Riders (polygamy + relentless.) Only my king doesn't have an option for secondary wives (his son and heir does however.) Anyone have any idea why? (I'm feudal, not tribal if that matters.) Only thing I can think of is because I also took Equality. Not related but while I'm at it (and this has been happening since before Holy Fury) but many times after I invite lowborns with good traits/stats, they immediately die once they land in my court ("poor health" usually, but they have no disease traits.) It's too consistent to be random. Is there some hidden modifier or something that impacts this? (Too many lowborns already in court maybe? Almost all my commanders end up being lowborns, and I churn through a lot of commanders.)
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Nov 28, 2018 16:54
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Blackluck posted:Playing a shattered-realm, full random religion game as Kurdish-Tengri. I reformed Tengri, which gets Eternal Riders (polygamy + relentless.) Only my king doesn't have an option for secondary wives (his son and heir does however.) Anyone have any idea why? (I'm feudal, not tribal if that matters.) Only thing I can think of is because I also took Equality. It's this. The game culls your unlanded courtiers once you have too many of them.
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Nov 28, 2018 17:00
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Thanks - ironic that I had invited a bunch to hand out some counties. Guess I'll need to start managing my prisoner queue better since they appear to count against the cap.
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Nov 28, 2018 17:40
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Question: If you're playing an Animal Kingdoms game as a Lunatic Horse ruler, do you get an event to appoint a human named Glitterfoot to your council?
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Nov 28, 2018 18:00
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I'm playing in Africa and am about to reform the religion. I just have to wait for a ruler to survive long enough to get the 750 piety. I plan on securing all of Africa for my realm, and then trying to put same-religion (hopefully same dynasty, but ya know how that goes) kingdoms neighboring me as buffer states. At that point I'm going to mainly focus on trying to get Africa's economy going, and prepare for the eventual Aztec invasion. I'm wondering what to take as my reformation picks. For leadership, I'm torn between Temporal and Autonomous. I'd rather have the bonus to stewardship throughout the realm than the leadership powers and authority, but I hear there's issues with eldership succession and the autonomous reform. For the nature, I'm thinking of going with Unyielding. I want Peaceful but I'd rather not have to manually convert every province in Africa myself. For the doctrines, I'm a bit stumped. Ancestor Veneration is something I want to go with to play around with the saints mechanic, as well as keep eldership. It seems like it'd pair a lot better with Temporal, so that I could be the person who chooses the saints. I want Divine Marriage for bloodline purposes, and Equality so that I can double the amount of people useful to me right away. Astrology would give access to the hermetics, which would be nice for times of peace, as well as just the basic buff from the birth sign. Any advice, suggestions, or recommendations? Something I overlooked?
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Nov 28, 2018 19:21
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Autonomous seems to have no benefits over any sort of centralized church. I regret taking it. Astrology is mandatory for any run centered around development imo. The tech boosts from the hermetics can get absurd when you start stacking magnum opi, and starting at ground zero in Africa, you'll need a lot of tech.
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Nov 28, 2018 19:28
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TTBF posted:I'm playing in Africa and am about to reform the religion. I just have to wait for a ruler to survive long enough to get the 750 piety. I plan on securing all of Africa for my realm, and then trying to put same-religion (hopefully same dynasty, but ya know how that goes) kingdoms neighboring me as buffer states. At that point I'm going to mainly focus on trying to get Africa's economy going, and prepare for the eventual Aztec invasion. I'm wondering what to take as my reformation picks. If you're trying to turtle, waiting for the Aztecs, then Unyielding is definitely the right choice. Temporal is also a nice pick, for the reasons you mentioned. Autonomous gives 4 cool traits, but they have an opinion penalties for not having the same trait as you. Which is not good, since statistically, the majority of elders won't share the trait you picked. Ancestor Veneration is very fitting for African pagans, so it's just a matter of choosing between Divine Marriage and Equality. I think Equality is the better pick, since it doubles the number of competent people you can pick for councilor or make your heirs. It's still very possible to breed bloodlines into your dynasty without divine marriages, you just need to wait an additional generation to get them into your line. And since there are only so many bloodlines to integrate, I think you will get a lot more out of Equality. Edit: As Volkerball said, Hermetics are really powerful as well.I would definitely take Ancestor Veneration,for flavor only. But it's a tough choice between Equality and Astrology, and both together are likely stronger than one of them with Ancestor Worship. So keep that in mind.
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Nov 28, 2018 19:32
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I think I'm going to go with Unyielding-Temporal-Astrology-Ancestor Veneration. Equality is nice but I can eventually get its mechanics through normal gameplay while the other two introduces new mechanics to mess around with.
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Nov 28, 2018 19:42
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Bakanogami posted:Question: If you're playing an Animal Kingdoms game as a Lunatic Horse ruler, do you get an event to appoint a human named Glitterfoot to your council? Unfortunately not. We need Groogy to get back on CK2 dev work so he can add more stuff like that.
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Nov 28, 2018 19:48
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I'm about to reform Germanic as a Saxon. I'm I going to lose raiding once I reform as I'm not norse? I'm thinking Warmongering, Astrology, Sons of Ragnarok and Temporal. Meritocracy and Equality look nice in place of Astrology but I do want those tech bonuses Also Meritocracy overrides Gavelkind or is it just for your primary titles?
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Nov 28, 2018 19:49
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I will always hate the glitterhoof event because I hate the name of the horse. And there is only ever the one name.Tormented posted:I'm about to reform Germanic as a Saxon. I'm I going to lose raiding once I reform as I'm not norse? You can also raid as long as you're tribal.
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Nov 28, 2018 19:57
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Well...huh. Trawling through the game files again. I picked ancestor worship in my hellenic pagan game to see what kind of pseudo-saintly bloodlines I could get, and was moderately disappointed when even after 20 blessed ancestors were decided upon, all of them had the exact same bloodline, giving a little prestige, a little combat ability, and periodic great warriors. I was then confused when, checking through 01_saintly_bloodlines, I saw that they coded six different saintly bloodlines for every pagan faith, giving much the same spread of outcomes as catholic saints. They're integrated into the canonization events and everything. Surely it's a bug? Turns out...no? Maybe? Despite all the support for reformed paganism in the canonization event chain, they are totally blocked from it with a simple "religion_group = christian" pre-trigger in the very first event of the chain, the one that fires on the death of a potential saint. Instead they follow a different chain entirely, which gives out what is effectively a much smaller set of more generic bloodlines. (There's one that's always available, one that's available only to bastards, one to bon or nomadic tengri, one to nomads, one to people following tanistry, one to people with a viking trait, and one to duelists). Effectively pagans will just see that first one over and over again. Kinda disappointing. I guess I might be able to mod the ancestor worship chain to use the other six when appropriate, though... Tormented posted:I'm about to reform Germanic as a Saxon. I'm I going to lose raiding once I reform as I'm not norse? Broken Cog posted:How exactly do you merge bloodlines if they're not matrilineally transferable. Strudel Man fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Nov 28, 2018 |
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Nov 28, 2018 20:04
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SlothfulCobra posted:I will always hate the glitterhoof event because I hate the name of the horse. And there is only ever the one name. There are a rather large number of horse cultured names, so you just need to get him landed and generate more horse courtiers.
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Nov 28, 2018 20:52
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Charlz Guybon posted:Anyone got that event from the Dev diaries where an evil pope makes an open cannibal kinslayer a saint and plunges Catholicsm into a continent wide civil war? Is that event chain working? Sure did. It wasn't a cannibal kinslayer, but it was a drunken possessed kinslayer. The Christian Khagan went to war against the pope to get him to gently caress off.
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Nov 28, 2018 21:05
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Torrannor posted:It's this. The game culls your unlanded courtiers once you have too many of them. oh, so this is why the retirement home strategy works so well
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Nov 28, 2018 21:06
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unless i've somehow stayed norse the whole time and never noticed, i was sure you could still raid as reformed germanic regardless of culture or government type e; beat
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Torrannor posted:Ah, it was only a matter of time. Come to think of it it is surprising that they had the Stellaris fox portraits and didn't add fox people to animal kingdoms.
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Nov 28, 2018 21:34
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SlothfulCobra posted:I will always hate the glitterhoof event because I hate the name of the horse. And there is only ever the one name. There's also Horse M.D. I'm 40 years into my current CK2 game and things have taken weird turns already. East Francia took over everything as one might expect, but it's not run by any descendant of Karl or Karloman yet is still Karlings. I have no idea. Byzantium decided to move their capital to Italy. Denmark took all of Scandinavia and reformed the Germanic religion 15 years in. Meanwhile I was just trying to do quickly do the United the Kingdoms achievement. The new tribal retinues are OP AF for that, a 2400 standing army just rolls over everything in the earliest bookmark. Azhais fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Nov 28, 2018 |
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Nov 28, 2018 21:34
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axeil posted:Oh and the Saoshyant was also the head of the Satanists which I found highly amusing. My first game after Holy Fury came out, I reformed the Germanic faith while first in line to lead the brotherhood of Hel. I'm still amazed I was able to get the piety together before he died, since he was 64 at the time.
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Nov 28, 2018 21:45
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THE BAR posted:Women can't be the Kwisatz Haderach! She's abomination! The original Bene Gesserit plan was for a woman to access the genetic memories of both lineages! Abominations are women who awaken to their memories in the womb because it fucks their psyches up. 
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Nov 28, 2018 21:53
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Charlz Guybon posted:Anyone got that event from the Dev diaries where an evil pope makes an open cannibal kinslayer a saint and plunges Catholicsm into a continent wide civil war? Is that event chain working? I've seen the "Pope made a bad saint" event pop up although I don't recall there really being much in the way of consequences for it when it happened.
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Started as Pictland in Charlemange start, married the princess of the byzantine empire. When my son came of age and was my leader, for some reason my mother (who went back home after being married to the king of East Francia) was suddenly my heir which wasn't great because she wasn't of my dynasty. She was also now the empress of the byzantines through some process I'm still not quite sure and after she suddenly died I inherited the county of Constantinople. Three cheers for the scots?
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Nov 28, 2018 22:29
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I wish baptisms popped up better. I also wish I could handle the baptism of my grandkids while I'm at it.
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Nov 28, 2018 23:01
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The pope made my mom a saint about a year after she was beatified and now I have a cool bloodline. It was while I was fighting a holy war on his behalf, freeing an Italian duchy from the heretic HREmperor for the benefit of the papal state. It's what it took to get the pope to crown me. Sadly becoming a saint swapped out her cool Outremer headdress for the boring French one she had as a young woman. Playing as a genuine crusader king is so cool guys Pagans cannot compare
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Nov 28, 2018 23:07
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Also every character I play ends up either fat or malnourished. No half measures.
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Half of my character seems to end up with cancer, the other half live a life of stress and depression.
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