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Kimsemus posted:you take off work and you earn less You shouldn’t.
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Ah yes, says the conservative, but if you control for all the things that cause this and characterize it as "choice", the differential drops to almost nothing*! (I realize that the article addresses this point but that is and always will be the con counterargument)
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Nov 29, 2018 20:58
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Crow Jane posted:Jfc, look at those loving eye circles. There has to be a right wing makeup artist or whatever who could teach him about blending, that poo poo's just getting sad I run a fairly large organization of designers and data science engineers, and part of me wants to task the whole group with building a bot that finds every image of trump on twitter and posts a new version with his skin tone adjusted to match the circles around his eyes. Like this:  I would surely lose my job, but for a few days it’d be totally worth it.
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Pollyanna posted:You shouldn’t. so wait you expect to earn the same amount as someone who doesn't take off work when you take off work 
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first world countries have paid parental leave.terrorist ambulance posted:Ah yes, says the conservative, but if you control for all the things that cause this and characterize it as "choice", the differential drops to almost nothing*! it is hilarious that they think this debunks the pay gap. i am the perfect logical and rational human and have not been affected by culture and society at all. i am a being of pure free will.
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Nov 29, 2018 20:59
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Kimsemus posted:you take off work and you earn less Kimsemus is a shithead shock of the century
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Nov 29, 2018 21:00
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I'm not saying it debunks the entire pay gap, but the premise of this article is flawed from the onset.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:00
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Kimsemus posted:so wait If you have a salary yes.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:00
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Kimsemus posted:so wait We should have extensive paid vacation and leave mandatory for all employers, like many European countries that don’t work their population into an early grave to bump up dividends a few percent.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:01
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Pollyanna posted:If you have a salary yes. Except salaries have work requirements. Your choice (and modern feminism is all about choice, it's your body after all) teaches if you have kids, you might have to stay at home from work and earn less than your working partner or don't have kids and stay at work like if you earned the same for taking off work everyone would just take off work. Ague Proof posted:Kimsemus is a shithead okay NPC poster #23432. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Nov 29, 2018 21:01
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Kimsemus posted:you take off work and you earn less Galaxy Brain: if women want to make more money they should work more
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Nov 29, 2018 21:01
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Kimsemus posted:so wait you're learning, no attempt to greentext in this one fun trivia: using this same statistical trick you can show that black people made more than white people during slavery.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:02
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Jealous Cow posted:I run a fairly large organization of designers and data science engineers, and part of me wants to task the whole group with building a bot that finds every image of trump on twitter and posts a new version with his skin tone adjusted to match the circles around his eyes. Some Anti-Fascist nerd is opening Anaconda and reading the scikit-learn docs as we speak. 
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Nov 29, 2018 21:02
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Kimsemus posted:you take off work and you earn less Then, Try thinking.
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Kimsemus posted:I'm not saying it debunks the entire pay gap, but the premise of this article is flawed from the onset.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:02
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Kimsemus posted:Except salaries have work requirements. Why doesn't the woman go to work and the man stay home and earn less?
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Kimsemus posted:Except salaries have work requirements. ...oh, and I'd -just- congratulated you on your ability to codeswitch, too. embarrassing.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:02
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haveblue posted:Why doesn't the woman go to work and the man stay home and earn less? No one is saying it can't happen that way.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:03
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terrorist ambulance posted:Ah yes, says the conservative, but if you control for all the things that cause this and characterize it as "choice", the differential drops to almost nothing*! Ah yes the Ben Shapiro Special.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:03
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:fun trivia: using this same statistical trick you can show that black people made more than white people during slavery. Don't give him ideas.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:03
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Kimsemus posted:No one is saying it can't happen that way. According to that article, this is much rarer. Why is that?
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Nov 29, 2018 21:04
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https://twitter.com/TheOnion/status/1068176014990290944
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Nov 29, 2018 21:04
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haveblue posted:According to that article, it hardly ever does. Why is that? I have no idea. My wife works roughly the same as me, earns roughly the same pay, and we don't want children. It's a choice. If she or I had to stay at home for X time to raise the kid, then we'd expect to have reduced income.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:05
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Don’t mind Kimsemus, his parents were both actual latchkeys
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Nov 29, 2018 21:05
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Crow Jane posted:Jfc, look at those loving eye circles. There has to be a right wing makeup artist or whatever who could teach him about blending, that poo poo's just getting sad He's such a narcissist that he thinks he looks great. He honestly can't see the fact that he looks like a Yankee Candle that was left in the dishwasher. He looks like toddler playing dress up because everything is tailored to conceal his meat husk and probably honestly believes scales are wrong and he actually weighs 220 or whatever bullshit his quack WH doctor said.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:05
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No what’s important is you WORK WORK WORK and if you don’t WORK you’re a stupid LEECH, you need to WORK you are my BATTERY. Mmmmoooonnnnnneeeeyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Nov 29, 2018 21:05
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Kimsemus posted:No one is saying it can't happen that way. It’s almost as if the gender wage gap forces men working and women staying home to be the economically beneficial choice, which further aggravates the gender wage gap.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:06
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:It’s almost as if the gender wage gap forces men working and women staying home to be the economically beneficial choice, which further aggravates the gender wage gap. Solution: double women’s pay.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:06
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Kimsemus posted:I have no idea. My wife works roughly the same as me, earns roughly the same pay, and we don't want children. It's a choice. odd. a second ago you were full of creative explanations for inequalities in the system. wonder why the sudden uncharacteristic lack of Provocative Ideas (tm)
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Nov 29, 2018 21:07
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Pollyanna posted:No what’s important is you WORK WORK WORK and if you don’t WORK you’re a stupid LEECH, you need to WORK you are my BATTERY. Mmmmoooonnnnnneeeeyyyyyyyyyyyy Women shouldn't expect to get paid the same for taking so much time off work to raise a family also Why the gently caress are our birth rates so low just have more kids so we don't need these darn immigrants
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Nov 29, 2018 21:07
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:odd. a second ago you were full of creative explanations for inequalities in the system. Naw man, he namedropped feminism like three times.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:07
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Kimsemus posted:you take off work and you earn less Reading comprehension is difficult, but it's just one sentence you have to parse: "Women earned roughly half the income of men in the United States over a 15-year period, taking into account time off for family or child care..."
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Nov 29, 2018 21:08
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Pleads posted:Women shouldn't expect to get paid the same for taking so much time off work to raise a family I love the logic here that raising a family is not worthy of being supported financially but you better get me some drat grandkids 
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Nov 29, 2018 21:08
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:odd. a second ago you were full of creative explanations for inequalities in the system. spicy take: maybe there are inequalities in the system and maybe some of that is caused by personal choices mod sassinator posted:Reading comprehension is difficult, but it's just one sentence you have to parse: thank you for making my point for me.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:09
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Kimsemus posted:I have no idea. My wife works roughly the same as me, earns roughly the same pay, and we don't want children. It's a choice. if only your parents had made the same choice
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Nov 29, 2018 21:10
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Pay raises for time on the job are mostly bullshit. You should be paid as much as your union can bargain for, with seniority counting for little if anything. Annual or scheduled cost-of-living increases are perfectly acceptable. Let's be honest for most jobs the difference in performance between someone who's been there a year and someone who's been there five are basically non-existent.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:10
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having children is a personal choice society should not subsidize in any way, says man who was (and still is) a child
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evilweasel posted:if only your parents had made the same choice i too wish people who had different opinions from me didn't exist something awful is getting close though evilweasel posted:having children is a personal choice society should not subsidize in any way, says man who was (and still is) a child yeah my mom chose to stay home after she chose to have kids so controversial.
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Nov 29, 2018 21:10
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The only thing that deserves monetary reward is making more money for me.  Kimsemus posted:i too wish people who had different opinions from me didn't exist It’s not “different opinions” if you’re just wrong.
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Kimsemus posted:spicy take: maybe there are inequalities in the system and maybe some of that is caused by personal choices. Do you think that maybe women shouldn't be penalized for making a choice that they must make of civilization is going to continue?
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