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Typical Pubbie
May 10, 2011
I like the finely crafted shade in that John Allison post.

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Lunatic Sledge
Jun 8, 2013

choose your own horror isekai sci-fi Souls-like urban fantasy gamer simulator adventure

or don't?
Neglected Mario Characters did sprite comics before Bob & George, and I'm ... sort of confident? That 8-Bit Theater was more successful, it definitely felt like it had more influence at the time (in that it colored how half the internet characterized black mages).

Bob & George is a weird pick, is what I'm saying.

Dogwood Fleet
Sep 14, 2013
Now that I think about it, Lesnick should be on that list. Slipshine provided a working subscription model and has provided an income boost for a fair number off people to have their day job be comics.

girl dick energy
Sep 30, 2009

You think you have the wherewithal to figure out my puzzle vagina?

Dogwood Fleet posted:

Now that I think about it, Lesnick should be on that list. Slipshine provided a working subscription model and has provided an income boost for a fair number off people to have their day job be comics.
Porn is always the first industry to embrace new technology and business models. Cam models invented vlogging years ago.

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
vr

incredible flesh
Oct 6, 2018

by Nyc_Tattoo
while we're on the webcomics cult of celebrity thing, just for the record i have been incredibly unfair to tom siddell, a man of inhuman work ethic and dedication, and i regret my words and deeds

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.
I never would've expected that Annie's dad issues were due to nanomachines, but in retrospect it makes perfect sense

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Ditocoaf posted:


Here's a comic that I really wonder if other goons have opinions on: Sam and Fuzzy.

It's weird to already be seeing nostalgic throwbacks to that very late 90s/early 2000 style of comics where in the third year the two gamer guys on the couch are thrown into the very serious battle to save Earth from the alien Zo'Loft and the wacky Linux penguin sidekick tragically sacrifices himself to save the team, but otoh I kinda want Questionable Content to do the same thing

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
the only two comics i've seen that successfully transitioned from zany early-oughts Jhonen Vasquez fare to actual drama were Sam & Fuzzy and Zebra Girl, and while the latter did it with more elegance the former managed to stay reasonably funny even after the change

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
how zany was early schlock mercenary

Mors Rattus
Oct 25, 2007

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Pretty zany, but most of what changed there was just the scale, it's still pretty fuckin' zany to my understanding.

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
to an extent, but it actually feels like it hit a certain stride at some point and has held on that tack since. like, it found what it wanted to be? which is goofy mil/merc sci-fi mixed w technological singularity stuff

although that might be partly because of the comic also finding its serial formula plot-wise somewhere down the line. yknow the whole character turnover conveyer belt etc

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe
The first couple years were really fuckin silly, nothing but lawyer jokes and poop. It settled down pretty quickly, but I don't know what it's been doing for the past 8 or so years because I gave up.

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
long story short dark matter aliens from the andromeda galaxy are teleporting lasers into a specific kind of technology in the milky way, also the singularity is happening in the background

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
that might sound loving awesome but i only really ever read it because i forget it exists for a week or two at a time and then when i remember hey it exists, hey theres a bunch of pages to read before going back to compulsive opening and closing browser tabs/roguelikes

Bobulus
Jan 28, 2007

The comic is interesting in that the large-scale plot has scaled up and scaled up so much that we've reached 'Everyone has functional immortality provided the universe isn't destroyed', which is just bonkers. Also, yes, there is functionally no difference between meat-brains and computer-brains, and it is technically possible to hop back and forth between them, although it isn't an everyday occurrence.

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Oct 25, 2007

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Tollymain posted:

closing browser tabs

stop lying

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Bobulus posted:

The comic is interesting in that the large-scale plot has scaled up and scaled up so much that we've reached 'Everyone has functional immortality provided the universe isn't destroyed', which is just bonkers. Also, yes, there is functionally no difference between meat-brains and computer-brains, and it is technically possible to hop back and forth between them, although it isn't an everyday occurrence.

functional immortality provided their capacity to revive/resurrect the dead is not disrupted/destroyed simultaneously w other infrastructure

tall order but the enemy is literally teleporting lasers at them from another galaxy so it kinda evens out


hey im closing them almost as fast as i open them

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
i guess the best way to put it is that schlock has an internal logic and its pretty consistent to that internal logic, zany as it is

Joe Slowboat
Nov 9, 2016

Higgledy-Piggledy Whale Statements



Schlock has almost literally become Lensman.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

Tollymain posted:

how zany was early schlock mercenary

Schlock Mercenary has remained perfectly tonally consistent while adding so many layers of sideplot and vast galaxy-spanning revelations that totally change everything for so long that it's absolutely impossible to tell what the gently caress is going on in it anymore. Like yeah since the comic's start everyone's become immortal and learned to teleport anywhere instantaneously and an omnipotent war computer has taken over the galaxy as god-emperor and ancient invisible eldritch monsters have started plotting to consume civilization and some kind of dyson sphere of undead also-omnipotent also-AIs has just also taken over the galaxy, and all of these things are always directly relevant and need to be understood, in order to make sense of today's dad joke. I'm pretty sure I missed a couple of things somewhere in there.

Oxxidation posted:

the only two comics i've seen that successfully transitioned from zany early-oughts Jhonen Vasquez fare to actual drama were Sam & Fuzzy and Zebra Girl, and while the latter did it with more elegance the former managed to stay reasonably funny even after the change

it's still decently funny it's just really not gonna make me care about or take seriously the problems of the, uh, ninja mafia kingdom

A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Nov 29, 2018

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
it's gone the dr mcninja route of taking absurdist concepts and incorporating them into a functional narrative framework (in S&F's case it's mostly about the disintegration of identity and morality) instead of just jazz-handsing at a ninja polar bear or a malevolent refrigerator and waiting for the APPLAUSE sign to light up

whether or not it's successful is a different matter but at least it shows significant growth on the creator's part

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011
the most influential webcomic is megaGAMERZ 3133T

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

In the "also still going for some reason" category is Sluggy Freelance... I guess. I just opened the site for the first time in about a decade - you have to scroll past 2 screens of web 2.0 garbage that makes you think the site is down before actually reading the current page, the comic now looks a lot like Megatokyo, there's links to archived strips to explain the plot references in the current strip, and I can't find the "back" button to read a previous strip. So yeah, it's aged really well!

Oh, you can still buy a plush toy of a rabbit with a switchblade. So random! NIFTY!

Rand Brittain
Mar 25, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Rotten Red Rod posted:

the comic now looks a lot like Megatokyo,

It doesn't look anything like Megatokyo.

Honestly, Sluggy's basic look hasn't particularly changed in years.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Ok, maybe that was a bad comparison, but it certainly looks considerably more anime than it used to. Which makes sense, from what I (barely) remember about the plot it was just thinly-veiled Tenchi Muyo.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014




yes, this comic has absolutely gotten more/less... anything in the last 18 years :thunk:

A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 00:22 on Nov 30, 2018

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

The latest update has kind of a How to Draw Manga vibe to it, that's what I mean:



I'm not doing any more research than that because it's not 2001

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

they all have samurai swords now, I guess, for some reason, but otherwise those characters have been drawn more the same for the past couple decades than should even be humanly possible.

I think the stuffed rabbits are also like twenty years old. It's unsettling.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Rotten Red Rod posted:

I can't find the "back" button to read a previous strip.

Yeah, Sluggy's archive were changed some time ago and there's no longer separate pages for individual strips. Instead you get entire books worth of strips on each archive page. You'd better not have a limited data plan!

So when you look at one of the references given, then you first need to wait forever as every single other strip from the same book is also loaded.

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Oct 25, 2007

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Cat Mattress posted:

Yeah, Sluggy's archive were changed some time ago and there's no longer separate pages for individual strips. Instead you get entire books worth of strips on each archive page. You'd better not have a limited data plan!

So when you look at one of the references given, then you first need to wait forever as every single other strip from the same book is also loaded.

So what was the intended use case of this, do you think?

AriadneThread
Feb 17, 2011

The Devil sounds like smoke and honey. We cannot move. It is too beautiful.


also individual strips will regularly fail to load

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
Meanwhile, Monster Pulse closes out its 32nd chapter with a graphical approximation of this day in US political history.

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Mors Rattus posted:

So what was the intended use case of this, do you think?

Beats me. :shrug: Bingers perhaps.

Tollymain
Jul 9, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

i hope lulenski still exists to somehow make worse decisions

incredible flesh
Oct 6, 2018

by Nyc_Tattoo
vagina ulicifolia

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

I've been thinking that one of these days I'll catch up on sluggy freelance for a few years now.

That's the main way I fall away from webcomics, the backlog gets big enough that it's too much work to catch up.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

SlothfulCobra posted:

I've been thinking that one of these days I'll catch up on sluggy freelance for a few years now.

That's the main way I fall away from webcomics, the backlog gets big enough that it's too much work to catch up.

but why though

Xun
Apr 25, 2010

Is there a trick to finding webcomics that don't seem to move at a snails pace? I feel like I keep finding these cool, well drawn stories with interesting premises and when I reach the end I realize it's been going for multiple years and still hasn't finished the setup.

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Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Xun posted:

Is there a trick to finding webcomics that don't seem to move at a snails pace? I feel like I keep finding these cool, well drawn stories with interesting premises and when I reach the end I realize it's been going for multiple years and still hasn't finished the setup.

A "trick"? You could read only the ones that have been completed, I guess, but there's really no such thing as a good webcomic that doesn't update slowly... It's kind of the nature of the medium that it takes a while to do.

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