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Delorence Fickle
Feb 21, 2011

Man_of_Teflon posted:

Yeah, same here. Giant case backlogs from years of not hiring CS classes (I was an internal promotion, which I kinda feel like all CS classes should be but that's a whole other story).

Even now, starting to catch up, our workload every day is divided between the most important cases and the easiest high volume cases so our numbers don't look like garbage and managers get promotions. Not a lot of thought put into what would prevent the most work in the future.

"Backlogs are good things" (Overtime?)

-My new supervisor

Including me and the other hire there are only 6 people to handle the kinds of specialized caseloads we do in in this office.

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Thesaurus
Oct 3, 2004


SSA is such a gargantuan labyrinth

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!
Did they rename CAs to CSs or is it that CAs are just an OCO thing?

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Toshimo posted:

The USFGJM: Did they rename CAs to CSs or is it that CAs are just an OCO thing?

new thread title

Beerdeer
Apr 25, 2006

Frank Herbert's Dude
I know I love my overtime. I have no interest in backlog reduction.

Nutella
Jun 27, 2005

"And the meek shall inherit the earth"
SSA is a clusterf*(k right now. I'm a CTE (T2) and work in an all CS (claims specialists aka claims representatives) office. The work and training are so poor right now our lobby has been at 2 1/2 to 3 hour waits this month. One person to answer phones. The public is brutal. I feel for you newbies.

tek_munk
Feb 10, 2007
Luckily I'm not in a FO, heh. We have 10 CTEs at my PC spread across 11 modules, 5 of which will be retiring within a couple of years.

Man_of_Teflon
Aug 15, 2003

CS (Claims Specialist) is supposed to be the new consolidated position combining the former positions of CA (Claims Authorizer) at the PC (processing center) and CR (Claims Representative) at field offices. I just hope it makes it easier for me to transfer to a FO in the future.

Our training is garbage too. When I got promoted from BA to CS, got done with the classroom training and started doing cases under review, after a few months of case reviews they had to reset our training because the journeymen CSes reviewing our cases apparently weren't catching any of our mistakes. They switched us to having CTEs review our cases and it was like starting over, errors everywhere.

When our CTEs retire here we are screwed. There are only a couple that I actually believe really know how to do all the more complex/rare stuff like adjusting earnings records.

edit: when I got hired back in 2010 they literally handed this out. you can't really see but it's like 20-30 pages of fine print:

Man_of_Teflon fucked around with this message at 17:36 on Nov 30, 2018

Thesaurus
Oct 3, 2004


such good memories of my SSA training...

The sad thing is that the expertise you gain is so unique to that job that it doesn't really transfer well if you want to move to another agency

Does claims specialist still cap out at gs 11?

tek_munk
Feb 10, 2007
Yeah after 4 years (assuming you grt the grade each year by doing your job). Then people usually move onto CTE or management.

TheMadMilkman
Dec 10, 2007

Hope everybody enjoys the extra day off next week.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

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Terror Ninja
Oct 23, 2008

TheMadMilkman posted:

Hope everybody enjoys the extra day off next week.

Sigh, I have to show up whether or not we get funded.

Beerdeer
Apr 25, 2006

Frank Herbert's Dude
Yeah, we’re self funded through fees. I never get furloughed.

Spacewolf
May 19, 2014
What happened?

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Spacewolf posted:

What happened?

We get Wednesday for President Bush.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

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Yeah this is not a furlough, that is the week after.

sexy tiger boobs
Aug 23, 2002

Up shit creek with a turd for a paddle.

we get days off when presidents die eh? Hmmmmm

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



sexy tiger boobs posted:

we get days off when presidents die eh? Hmmmmm

Only when they're respected.

Midjack fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Dec 2, 2018

sullat
Jan 9, 2012
Hope I'm not essential. Says the agency head can make people come in if needed.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



sullat posted:

Hope I'm not essential. Says the agency head can make people come in if needed.

That's true to an extent for every government closure, whether it's caused by funding, weather, or anything else. The "essential" designation is usually somewhat formal and if you're not sure you are then you likely aren't, but check with your bossmasters before you no-show.

Testvan
Nov 10, 2003
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkq7WZTzkLQ&t=69s

marchantia
Nov 5, 2009

WHAT IS THIS
I'm at a DDS, so a state employee, but there seem to have been an influx of new CRs at the FOs in my state that have not been properly trained and are messing up stupid things on cases. A delight.

That being said our office has a mega high turnover rate and hired 3 new classes of examiners this calendar year so we are certainly not on any sort of competency high horse.

Edit - I'm on team backlogs are good fwiw

marchantia fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Dec 2, 2018

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Midjack posted:

That's true to an extent for every government closure, whether it's caused by funding, weather, or anything else. The "essential" designation is usually somewhat formal and if you're not sure you are then you likely aren't, but check with your bossmasters before you no-show.

Yeah, we'll probably get told Monday or Tuesday what's going to happen. "Essential" is pretty ad hoc where we are, so I'm sure it is going to be a mess whatever it is.

Evil SpongeBob
Dec 1, 2005

Not the other one, couldn't stand the other one. Nope nope nope. Here, enjoy this bird.
At least you'll get holiday pay.

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


Day off when a former president dies but not a day off for voting to elect presidents? That makes sense.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

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No, when Republican presidents die. Jimmy Carter will almost certainly die during this administration; I would probably be willing to bet like $10,000 that he will not get a national day of mourning holiday. Bonus $5,000 infinite irony bet if they claim it is because he was only a one-term president :haw:

Thesaurus
Oct 3, 2004


Any bets on whether we'll get off Monday Dec 24?

Looks like a decent array of past administrations have given xmas eve off when it falls on Monday.

Midjack
Dec 24, 2007



Thesaurus posted:

Any bets on whether we'll get off Monday Dec 24?

Looks like a decent array of past administrations have given xmas eve off when it falls on Monday.

Given that we're getting Wednesday for the President I doubt we'll get a freebie for Christmas or New Year's.

Kase Im Licht
Jan 26, 2001
I think more likely than not we get the 24th off, but I don't feel particularly confident about it.

Thesaurus
Oct 3, 2004


Midjack posted:

Given that we're getting Wednesday for the President I doubt we'll get a freebie for Christmas or New Year's.

I was hoping the funeral thing would prime the pump for other random edicts

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Kase Im Licht posted:

I think more likely than not we get the 24th off, but I don't feel particularly confident about it.

We are getting two hours off to be used anytime in December, aren't you guys as well?

Artificer
Apr 8, 2010

You're going to try ponies and you're. Going. To. LOVE. ME!!
I think I got demolished by that IRS agent test. I don't think I reviewed sufficiently the precise terms used to designate entries into accounting information. Hmm.

Thesaurus
Oct 3, 2004


sullat posted:

We are getting two hours off to be used anytime in December, aren't you guys as well?

the prez can issue an order to give all (non essential) feds the day off, an impromptu holiday, which various past presidents have done when xmas falls on a Tuesday. This is different than an agency letting people leave early.

when we get early releases, they usually don't announce it until a day or two before. I hadn't heard of getting floating hours, either

Lady Bureaucrazy
Jan 24, 2007

Step 1: Insert speaker into vagina

sullat posted:

We are getting two hours off to be used anytime in December, aren't you guys as well?

This varies by agency.

Historically our agency directors had always given "59 minutes" before every single holiday. Many agencies do that. But our new Director hasn't given it even once. Apparently when other leadership asked him about it, he said something like, "Before every holiday? That's 10 hours a year!" He is not popular, to put it mildly.

Luckily the Christmas Eve thing isn't his decision, heh. But as I recall from years past, I don't think OPM announced it until like the pay period before? So we might not know about the 24th for a while.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

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And he will be asked that same question live at our next national Town Hall meeting. It will be fun watching him give his Zuckerbergian quasi-human-understanding answer to all of us.

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

Lady Bureaucrazy posted:

This varies by agency.

Historically our agency directors had always given "59 minutes" before every single holiday. Many agencies do that. But our new Director hasn't given it even once. Apparently when other leadership asked him about it, he said something like, "Before every holiday? That's 10 hours a year!" He is not popular, to put it mildly.

Luckily the Christmas Eve thing isn't his decision, heh. But as I recall from years past, I don't think OPM announced it until like the pay period before? So we might not know about the 24th for a while.

My org hasn't gotten anything about Wednesday being off yet so idk if we're observing it or not. Our commander does do 59 minutes on days before every holiday though.

Man_of_Teflon
Aug 15, 2003

nothing about Wednesday here either

edit: email is out and we get it off woo

Man_of_Teflon fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Dec 3, 2018

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


I was “Not referred” for a position on the basis of “Not qualified - Education/Experience” but I definitely have the appropriate background. It’s a non-GS 12-14 position and I’m currently 7 months into GS11 (first government job) but that’s only bc my current agency lowballed me and accepting the offer was the least worst option at the time.

What’s really annoying is that the work is extremely similar to my PhD research and there are “many vacancies” listed. Is there any way to appeal? A contact email is listed.

Josh Lyman fucked around with this message at 17:39 on Dec 3, 2018

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Beerdeer
Apr 25, 2006

Frank Herbert's Dude
I sure miss my 59 minutes :smith:

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