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Ate My Balls Redux posted:It's not about changing minds. It's about curtailing damage you dork Pence will never be president. If 2/3 of the Senate convicts Trump*, what he did was so bad and wide-ranging that it will have dragged down Pence with it. * they won't.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:Are people still trotting out the tired old "But Trump's Base" argument as a reason why Dems shouldn't do something (like, say, impeaching Trump for his numerous crimes)? Which is why we also have to get fired up and be just as vocal about progressive policies. The more we call our representatives, the more clear the writing on the wall will be for them in 2020. The momentum of this years midterms cannot be lost in the noise of the CHUDs. They are in the minority and liberals need to start shouting louder and keep loving shouting. Call your rep and senator every drat day. More than once if need be. Call your state reps too. Your City Council. EVERYONE!
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Rent-A-Cop posted:There is no loving way that the majority of this country even knows what impeachment is. Not a chance. If they were alive in the late 90s there's no way they don't and young people aren't idiots.
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Radish posted:young people aren't idiots. Ehhhhhhhhh...depends on the young people.
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Skex posted:Also it is not the best look to be demonizing the nation's first black President particularly when to do so you have to willfully ignore the political realities that were facing him, including the near immediate racist backlash that undermined his ability to do anything for 6 years of his Presidency. When people talk about the cynical weaponization of identity politics, this is exactly that poo poo they're talking about. This is a pretty naked example of it; in a conversation entirely about policy and procedure, you cannot help but also inject "And also, he was black, you know, so I'm going to imply you might be seen as racist, or racially insensitive, because other criticism of him was racialized." Skex, do you realize that it makes it hard to believe that you genuinely care about the fate of persons of color in this country when you do things like this?
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"He signed away the only way to make the ACA work in exchange for literally loving nothing, but he made me feel good!"
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mdemone posted:Pence will never be president. If 2/3 of the Senate convicts Trump*, what he did was so bad and wide-ranging that it will have dragged down Pence with it. Why do you believe Pence will be implicated in any way whatsoever, much less to the extent required for him to be impeached and removed as well as Trump? edit: if, hypothetically we had proof that Pence also did all the crimes, which I seriously doubt, the GOP will let him be president long enough to pick a new VP before they move on him.
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Rigel posted:Why do you believe Pence will be implicated in any way whatsoever, much less to the extent required for him to be impeached and removed as well as Trump? Because Pence was Manaforts man. They turned around the plan to go get him lol. He is definitely dirty. Also, Pence was involved somehow with Flynn.
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Off topic but does anyone have handy the chart that shows taxes return on investment re: food stamps/SNAP vs tax cuts?
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Radish posted:If they were alive in the late 90s there's no way they don't and young people aren't idiots.
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https://twitter.com/scontorno/status/1067454148302553088 you've got to love this country
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Rigel posted:At this point impeachment is inevitable, it is obvious that Mueller is going to have evidence that Trump and his idiot offspring did all the crimes. Oh no, I agree with this, I'm just wondering why people would claim it'll fire up Trump's base as a reason why it shouldn't be done. "Oh no, it might rile up some angry old people and some genuinely insane white supremacists, who even if it didn't happen would just find other reasons to be angry and lash out anyways? Better not do it then!"  friendbot2000 posted:Which is why we also have to get fired up and be just as vocal about progressive policies. The more we call our representatives, the more clear the writing on the wall will be for them in 2020. The momentum of this years midterms cannot be lost in the noise of the CHUDs. They are in the minority and liberals need to start shouting louder and keep loving shouting. Call your rep and senator every drat day. More than once if need be. Call your state reps too. Your City Council. EVERYONE! This too. Centrist  has no place in modern politics any more.
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friendbot2000 posted:Because Pence was Manaforts man. They turned around the plan to go get him lol. He is definitely dirty. Also, Pence was involved somehow with Flynn. This seems like wishful thinking to me. I've never seen anything suggesting that Pence was involved in Trump's crimes other than people yelling "but, he had to have also been involved, right?"
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Also it's Obama's fault for hurricane Katrina.
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Radish posted:Then the Democrats should use it as such. If they don't that will certainly be used against them since the majority of this country believes the process of impeachment is one of the checks that is supposed to maintain a balance of power within the government and keep things clean. Using it as such means not using it unless they're sure it'll give them a political advantage. I don't think it will unless they can guarantee the votes to impeach and remove and I'd be absolutely overjoyed to be proven wrong, though I don't have that much faith in my fellow citizens.
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Ice Phisherman posted:Also it's Obama's fault for hurricane Katrina. Keep in mind a majority of republicans think this
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Rigel posted:Why do you believe Pence will be implicated in any way whatsoever, much less to the extent required for him to be impeached and removed as well as Trump? Because Manafort picked him and everything Manafort does is a crime. I'm being glib but the fact that Pence brought Flynn on board hints to me that he knew more about what was going on with Russia than he's ever since claimed.
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lol what a piece of poo poo, no wonder he got owned by a geriatric social democrat.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:This too. Centrist The amount of engagement for liberalism is absolutely surreal sometimes. 60 million votes were cast for Democratic candidates this midterm election. Think about that. 60 Million+ votes that can be harnessed for positive change in this country. Our message needs to be clear and not just yelled on these dead gay forums. Liberals will no longer tolerate running to the right. The key to realizing that is to constantly be nipping at the heels of our elected officials. I think the reason Republicans are so slavishly devoted to their base is that they know that if they cross them then they will be primaried. The Tea Party was evidence of that. Also...being a ghoul helps too, but I digress. Republicans are a lot more engaged with their Representatives than Democrats and that needs to change for Progressive Policies to start getting pushed.
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"Order of the Aztec Eagle" would be a killer name for a rock band.
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Rigel posted:Comey's motion to quash the house subpoena is set for a hearing in front of a Federal judge this afternoon. This will be 3pm ET
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uggy posted:does somebody have that tweet like https://twitter.com/KevinMKruse/status/1067431464524869633
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Rent-A-Cop posted:That is an extremely baller trophy. Dang millenials and their participation trophies
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It was funny watching CNN and CNBC side by side at the gym this morning. CNBC was talking about someone who predicated Trump would get a deal with Xi while CNN was talking about Trump be rattled and disturbed over Mueller and Cohen. I'm assuming Xi's just gonna throw Trump a few bones while getting the majority of what he wants while Trump crows about what a great deal maker he is (like always).
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Neto has to be one of the most useless human beings ever born. Between letting Trump visit Mexico without getting rebuked during the 2016 campaign and awarding Kushner this honor, it’s hard to think he doesn’t love The Donald.
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AOC's lottery number is right about in the middle. So, she won't get one of the few offices left in the best building, but she probably will get one of the least-crappy offices that are still available in the undesirable office buildings. https://twitter.com/Ocasio2018/status/1068542634883497984
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Munkeymon posted:Using it as such means not using it unless they're sure it'll give them a political advantage. I don't think it will unless they can guarantee the votes to impeach and remove and I'd be absolutely overjoyed to be proven wrong, though I don't have that much faith in my fellow citizens. The Republicans impeached without the Senate votes they had total control over the Federal government for 6 years. The idea that there is a political price to pay for starting the process and having it fail in the Senate has no backing in reality. Playing safe doesn't motivate voters and the Republicans are coming out in 2020 to defend Trump no matter what. The Democrats were voted in specifically to deal with Trump and "well the political reality is..." is not an excuse anyone cares about hearing or will help them whatsoever. There will never be 2/3 of the Senate in Democratic control so if the Democrats are saying they will not impeach Trump for any reason they will not be rewarded and will only take heat as not doing what they were elected to do. Also the only way you aren't aware the concept of impeachment exists is if you literally did not watch TV at all between the years of 1998 and 2000. People born late enough to not have a concept of that time and have no interest in politics whatsoever aren't a huge block of voters.
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Lightning Knight posted:Um, do you still want to toxx then? I'll  for the remaining $80 if it happens today, though it'll probably be to a Canadian charity (Canadian Civil Liberties Union) so I at least get a tax receipt for it. I'll see if any good ones pop up that are refugee-centric. mod sassinator posted:Maybe they know something we don't. I'm well past Q, but I'm Canadian, so I'm Zed not Zee.
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Brony Car posted:Neto has to be one of the most useless human beings ever born. Between letting Trump visit Mexico without getting rebuked during the 2016 campaign and awarding Kushner this honor, it’s hard to think he doesn’t love The Donald. He approval rating is in the teens and this was most likely a FU to his successor (and to Mexico in general)
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