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I like the cloth seat with leather bolsters combo. Best of both worlds and often looks great. I was grateful for my heated cloth seats yesterday when getting in the car. I don't like cloth generally since my experience is based on cloth seats in the lower trim levels, i.e. rough and lovely. If the cloth was high quality, nice looking and nice feeling I'd reconsider. A bit washed out from the flash, but this is the seats in my car (from wiki):  Alcantara on touch surfaces can go away though.
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https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/jeep-gladiator-pickup-truck-comparison-ford-nissan-chevy-toyota/ How does the Ranger manage to be 10 inches wider than every other midsize truck yet have the smallest interior volume? That's one of my biggest gripes about the Tacoma etc, the back seats just aren't all that comfortable to ride in for very long if your more than 6 feet tall
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Can’t they just fill a cab with liquid.
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Ideally, every truck and suv would have the cab filled with liquid as soon as it rolls off the lot
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incels interlinked posted:https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/news/jeep-gladiator-pickup-truck-comparison-ford-nissan-chevy-toyota/ I dunno man if your primary goal is to transplant 6 ft plus people in the back seat then maybe a midsize pickup truck isn't the best option? Maybe you're the one filling out those JD power surveys complaining that the mini is too small or the wrangler is too noisy.
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AggressivelyStupid posted:Ideally, every truck and suv would have the cab filled with liquid as soon as it rolls off the lot This is not the Obesity in America thread. Also please don't bodyshame fatties by referring to them as a liquid when they are clearly gelatinous. Also that new Mazda 3 is making it really hard to convince myself to buy a Veloster N or a Type R since you just know with decent tires it'll be 80% of the fun for half the operating cost. Assuming the new semidiesel engine is any good.
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i can't get over that Mazda3 C-pillar dare I say the sedan looks like, 100x better?
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The sedan looks good. reminds me if an older Alfa Romeo for some reason.
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I really like the C pillar though. I see ( ) a lot of the Miata RF in the surface contouring.
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MrOnBicycle posted:Alcantara on touch surfaces can go away though. I put an Alcantara wheel in my car. I love it. Seats are leather bolsters with Alcantara inners, door panels too. Alcantara everywhere please.  
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The only thing I hate about my alcantara seats is they're a pita to keep clean. I have a salt stain on my back seat that is never coming out.
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KillHour posted:The only thing I hate about my alcantara seats is they're a pita to keep clean. I have a salt stain on my back seat that is never coming out. Weird, I had Alcantara seats in my MS3 that I owned for almost 8 years from new and they still looked new when I sold it with minimal or no maintenance. But I guess I didn't do anything to stain them.
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Same. My S4 has Alcantara centers and leather bolsters, and the Alcantara looks like new. I can believe that a steering wheel would suck though. I don't wear driving gloves, but I'm invariably wearing a shirt and either shorts or pants when I drive.
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I bought a a ‘19 Toyota 86 GT to replace my 28 year old Integra as a DD. It feels like a modern take on my S13 240SX for better or worse (it drives nice but is also slow as balls). I got the TRD springs and Anti-Sway bars which is nice. I’m very happy with it, although some say I shouldn’t be.
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Frond posted:I bought a a ‘19 Toyota 86 GT to replace my 28 year old Integra as a DD. It feels like a modern take on my S13 240SX for better or worse (it drives nice but is also slow as balls). I got the TRD springs and Anti-Sway bars which is nice. How much were the TRD springs, and how much stiffer is it?
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A friend has a C63S with an alcantara steering wheel and he has to clean it regularly otherwise the alcantara gets all matted and starts to feel sticky.
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Before I got my wheel I read that only really happens if your hands are always heavily lotioned or you sweat a lot.
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I've had the gt350 wheel in my Mustang for 2 years now and besides a small amount of wear where I hold it the most it still looks great. I don't tend to sweat or have anything on my hands though.
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It's very nice when it's new, but worn alcantara is pretty disgusting. Maybe automakers have improved it, but it's been a long standing criticism toward alcantara that is wears out pretty quickly and becomes really bad to touch. Looks very nice though.
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opengl128 posted:that only really happens if your hands are always heavily lotioned Count me out then
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My S60 had leather/cloth seats and they were the absolute best. I had an original Pacifica with suede/leather and that was better than just leather, as well. I hate all-cloth and I hate all-leather, for whatever reason.
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I'd love to see Mercedes do a hybrid MB-Tex and wool seat cover, if they haven't already. Technically vinyl, but I'll take MB-Tex over cheap automotive-grade leather seats most any day. The Designo stuff is pretty tasty though.
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kimbo305 posted:How much were the TRD springs, and how much stiffer is it? 1100 CAD, and noticeably without being too punishing. 1” drop. They are quite expensive but it was worth it to me.
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cloth owns edit: they put it in the Toyota Century so you know that shits legit
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:cloth owns It’s actually even better. It’s wool.
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Cloth can be good, but the bargain bin garbage they put in virtually all cars ain't it.
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Guinness posted:Cloth can be good, but the bargain bin garbage they put in virtually all cars ain't it. Same with leather, actually I’d argue cheap leather is even worse than cheap cloth.
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I have burnt my taint on the cheap leather seats in my Focus in the summer
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Speaking of cloth vs leather, the 2019 Volvo v60 configurator has prices now. Rate my build: https://www.volvocars.com/configuration/22X8VQJ?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=vbs_share
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AggressivelyStupid posted:I have burnt my taint on the cheap leather seats in my Focus in the summer Why are you driving without pants?
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The Oldest Man posted:Speaking of cloth vs leather, the 2019 Volvo v60 configurator has prices now. Rate my build: Pretty good.
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The Oldest Man posted:Speaking of cloth vs leather, the 2019 Volvo v60 configurator has prices now. Rate my build: Why grey, why not *looks at the color options* well, gently caress.
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Frond posted:It’s actually even better. It’s wool. I prefer even mediocre leather to almost all cloth anyone's putting in a new car today but would 100% rock wool seats.
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How do you guys feel about steel wool seats
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:i can't get over that Mazda3 C-pillar The sedan has a character line over the rear wheel arch the hatch dropped, so in pictures it definitely looks a bit more normal but in the videos the C-pillar of the hatch seems to work better. It'll be interesting to see it in person.
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Goober Peas posted:How do you guys feel about steel wool seats Not recommended for people who smoke in the car. Hmm...actually, no, highly recommended for smokers. Headliner and carpets too.
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Frond posted:I bought a a ‘19 Toyota 86 GT to replace my 28 year old Integra as a DD. It feels like a modern take on my S13 240SX for better or worse (it drives nice but is also slow as balls). I got the TRD springs and Anti-Sway bars which is nice. I've DD'd my hyper blue BRZ for three years so far. I've threatened to trade it in and get something else about a dozen times. I've never done it. I love the car. It's my 1986 Corolla GTS that I sold, but with 25 years of refinement and safety added.
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I own a flashed WRX and I still prefer to drive my BRZ most days.
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MrOnBicycle posted:It's pretty good looking, but it looks like they've chopped of an R8 front up to the back of the front fenders, and stuck it on an A7. looks like a Panamera with different fenders to me
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