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Mr. Lobe posted:I assume it is the product of some kind of mental illness It's called Trotskyism
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always useful https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPbO9W8JQ8g
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Mr. Lobe posted:even having been a member of the ISO when I lived in the US 9 months ago, it is hard to feel anything but mild bewilderment when seeing a take like that. I assume it is the product of some kind of mental illness http://socialistworker.org/search?text=%23metoo there's nothing wrong with ISO here the WSWS having their bizarre stance has something to do with David North and the last time they split from somebody it was because of sexual assault allegations, so David North is probably a rapist molester too. I forgot a lot of the details but a friend looked into it and that's what I remember.
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Nov 30, 2018 13:46
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Graphic posted:http://socialistworker.org/search?text=%23metoo I was referring to the WSWS being nutty, not the ISO haha. I just mean, it's so bizarre that it's hard to be offended on behalf of the ISO, whom I would still be organizing with if I still lived in the US.
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Nov 30, 2018 14:12
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I like to think I have a decent grasp of communist theory and practice but I don’t think I’ll ever understand Trotskyism
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Nov 30, 2018 14:28
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Frog Act posted:I like to think I have a decent grasp of communist theory and practice but I don’t think I’ll ever understand Trotskyism remember when you were a kid and thought you could fly if everyone on earth jumped at once
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Nov 30, 2018 14:31
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when i was in the ISO i could always look at WSWS to assure myself that we werent the crazy ones
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Nov 30, 2018 15:07
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[After being expelled to Turkey] Technically I'm hoooomeleeeess
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Nov 30, 2018 15:26
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THS posted:when i was in the ISO i could always look at WSWS to assure myself that we werent the crazy ones The left is full of freaks and weirdos, the question is whether the freaks and weirdos you happen to surround yourself with are useful or, if useful isn't an option, good company. I am guessing you and I had different experiences in one or both of those regards.
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Nov 30, 2018 15:43
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I would suggest just not surrounding yourself with freaks and weirdos
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Nov 30, 2018 16:24
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StashAugustine posted:im either the punk Deacons or the mohawk (iroqouis) english: garbage/trash
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Nov 30, 2018 16:38
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hesWvg6B7U4 does anyone have the original song from this video. it was some insane lf tankie who would make terrible, terrible rap against revisionism
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Nov 30, 2018 16:44
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Does anyone have a gif of the student chanting "révisioniste! révisioniste!" over and over again in La Chinoise thanks
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Nov 30, 2018 16:52
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Mr. Lobe posted:The left is full of freaks and weirdos, the question is whether the freaks and weirdos you happen to surround yourself with are useful or, if useful isn't an option, good company. my chapter owned, was healthy and had intelligent, charismatic members. thats why the leadership got expelled from the ISO. dont rock the ISO boat they do not like it!!
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Nov 30, 2018 16:55
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GalacticAcid posted:Does anyone have a gif of the student chanting "révisioniste! révisioniste!" over and over again in La Chinoise thanks i don't but it's always funny when a hardline maoist on twitter has a shot from that movie as their av. makes you wonder whether they've actually seen it.
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R. Guyovich posted:i don't but it's always funny when a hardline maoist on twitter has a shot from that movie as their av. makes you wonder whether they've actually seen it. is this the equivalent of some chud watching Starship Troopers and thinking it’s a compelling endorsement of fascism
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Nov 30, 2018 17:01
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didn’t the cia fund the iso
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Rated PG-34 posted:didn’t the cia fund the iso Yeah, as well as the Japanese and German military
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Rated PG-34 posted:didn’t the cia fund the iso if the WSWS is to be believed, apparently so
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Rated PG-34 posted:didn’t the cia fund the iso also ho chi minh, fidel castro and the khmer rouge
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Weird Sexual Web Site
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:also ho chi minh, fidel castro and the khmer rouge only one of those is true though
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Nov 30, 2018 17:14
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Rated PG-34 posted:didn’t the cia fund the iso Actually, they funded whatever person or organization I don't like at the moment
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Nov 30, 2018 17:15
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Algund Eenboom posted:Actually, they funded whatever person or organization I don't like at the moment thats a weird way to do funding
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Nov 30, 2018 17:16
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Rated PG-34 posted:didn’t the cia fund the iso no
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Nov 30, 2018 17:17
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GalacticAcid posted:only one of those is true though no its not. the viet minh where supported by the OSS, if youre going to quibble about that whatever, the 26th of july movement was provided funds by the CIA, and the US and CIA had a very long history of supporting the khmer rouge.
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Nov 30, 2018 17:23
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yea the khmer rouge is the true one the other two are misrepresentations
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GalacticAcid posted:yea the khmer rouge is the true one 
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*radio crackling* yep, just getting confirmation now that everything bad is CIA funded and everything good is not. so there you have it.
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Nov 30, 2018 17:27
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THS posted:my chapter owned, was healthy and had intelligent, charismatic members. thats why the leadership got expelled from the ISO. dont rock the ISO boat they do not like it!! what were they expelled for?
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Nov 30, 2018 17:32
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apropos to nothing posted:I would suggest just not surrounding yourself with freaks and weirdos   
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R. Guyovich posted:i don't but it's always funny when a hardline maoist on twitter has a shot from that movie as their av. makes you wonder whether they've actually seen it. it doesn't help that all the Maoists in that movie are extremely attractive
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Nov 30, 2018 17:37
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Interesting praxis here of electoral-revolutionary fusion: https://twitter.com/kenvogel/status/1068541409073029122
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Nov 30, 2018 17:43
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:it doesn't help that all the Maoists in that movie are extremely attractive It's a french movie, you can't have anyone ugly in one (or have no nude scenes) unless you get a special permit. And yes, they think Gerard Depardieu is sexy.
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Nov 30, 2018 17:47
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GalacticAcid posted:Interesting praxis here of electoral-revolutionary fusion: huh... not used to reading FEC filings and feeling like I'm reading posts
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apropos to nothing posted:what were they expelled for? forced to resign after being told they couldnt continue to make the criticisms they were making and holding the opinions they had. i understand it’s democratic centralism but the ISO leadership is up their own rear end and ossified as hell - and essentially unchallengeable due to institutional inertia, regardless of however they are theoretically elected within the org. when the org is a massive revolving door of college students, that’s the reality
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a lot of it was over disagreements on not maintaining relationships with other socialist orgs, not working to build a socialist party, and generally seeming to be happy with the campus industrial complex status quo. also the complete failure to increase membership during the 2016 primaries, when the DSA ballooned. the ISO is doomed to irrelevance imo
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