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There's just something missing without Ruku. I think it's volume, mostly.
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It's probably unintentional, but I like to think of the Orcs running out of resources as Ner'zhul preparing to clean house: : Yeah, just take up garrison on that island there; you'll be the first to fight the humans when they come. Don't worry about the lack of resources, a real orc can win even without gold!:..wait, they actually went? Idiots.
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Nov 30, 2018 17:46
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Nov 30, 2018 17:53
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Gary is the Hero We Need, but do not deserve
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Nov 30, 2018 18:02
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Comrade Chairman Garybachev.
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Nov 30, 2018 18:27
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You know, I honestly don't remember how I usually handle this mission. I probably do just take out the Shattered Hand with my starting forces, though.
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I don't often talk about gameplay much in the thread since this game is so much older now (it still feels like a new game to me, just because I waited a few months to get it as a kid), but I think it's really interesting that striking the Thunderlord first isn't the more common answer. Typically before recording a run, I make a little scouting pass at the level and plot out a course. Then, like a normal and sane human being, I jot down little notes about what I'd like to do once I actually begin. I sat around for awhile on the map before I realized that the Shattered Hand wasn't doing... anything. I just brushed it off as, "Oh, cool, there's the expansion base." Turns out that I didn't really need it.
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Dec 1, 2018 01:38
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The original Starcraft's campaigns had a similar issue to that, particularly the end of the Zerg and Protoss campaigns. Either there's enough resources between your original base and the first expansion that you can just sit around and wait for the AI to suicide into your base defenses, or the first enemy faction that you encounter is so tough that, by the time you defeat them, the second faction will pose no threat to you whatsoever.
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I can just imagine Gary turning that bulls-eye on his chest into the main part of his soon to be royal crest, just to mess with Ravigaz when he comes back.
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stryth posted:I can just imagine Gary turning that bulls-eye on his chest into the main part of his soon to be royal crest, just to mess with Ravigaz when he comes back. stryth posted:just to mess with Ravigaz when he comes back. stryth posted:when he comes back. HA.  
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Dec 2, 2018 04:44
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Oh Ravigaz comes back alright... ...in Warcraft 3 during the Undead campaign
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Radio Free Kobold posted:Oh Ravigaz comes back alright... Yeah, the Human campaign will be...interesting, especially with who ends up joining Arthas on his trip to Northrend...
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 Lost In Space Lore for... Dwarfless Professionalism At this point, the geography of Draenor must have gotten confusing. Even more so with the retcons to actual places we've visited! My brain hurts just thinking about the way that General Turalyon and his merry men have traipsed across the red world. Let's get out our old friend the manual map. The trail in red will mark where we, in the game, have followed along. The trail marked in green, however, will show some of the divergences from the group that we don't see in the game. The purple represents a divergence from the main forces but a path we still see in the game. Haha, just typing that out makes my eye twitch. Both eyes actually. I think I'm just involuntarily blinking rapidly.  1. Our adventure on Draenor begins on the Hellfire Peninsula with the Sons of Lothar (in case I haven't mentioned the sentimental name that Turalyon went with) taking and holding the orcish side of the Dark Portal. 2. General Turalyon takes the majority of the Sons of Lothar out to Hellfire Citadel, assuming that Ner'zhul is holed up within. Instead they clash with Kargath Bladefist and took the fortress within a day. 3. Meanwhile, Captain Wells and his motley crew assaults the shipyards at Zeth'kur. This is doubtlessly in preparation for the assault on Shadowmoon Fortress. There's a small break here, as Khadgar realizes that the Skull of Gul'dan was northward, while Ner'zhul was headed south. The Sons of Lothar split here, with Khadgar and Alleria heading north after the skull, and Danath and Kurdran heading south. Turalyon... uh... Alright, let me level with you, in the canon, Turalyon heads north with Khadgar, but in the game he's clearly a part of the battle of Auchindoun. My way of handling this is having him present for the initial Firefist assault before leaving to join Alleria and Khadgar. Once he got up there... uhhh... yeah. He helped, too. While we're being this open with each other: Kurdran was actually caught in the battle of Auchindoun, and there's very little explanation for him showing up in the Blade's Edge Mountains. Sure, all of this stuff could have been written with the games in mind a little better (Christie Goldennnnnn!  ), but this is what we've got. ANYWAY...4. The Sons of Lothar launch an assault on Auchindoun. Here, Kurdran is captured, tortured, and interrogated by Kilrogg Deadeye of the Bleeding Hollow. Before long, Danath's forces charge in, and Danath Trollbane kills the mighty orc chieftain in single combat. Danath. Still a badass. (Let's say that Kurdran flies northward to help out Khadgar and the rest here?) 5. Khadgar, Alleria, and Turalyon track the Skull of Gul'dan to Blade's Edge Mountains. There they strike a deal with Gruul to drive off Deathwing in exchange for getting to pass through Gorgrond in peace. 6. In preparation for the assault on Fortress Shadowmoon/Black Temple/Karabor, Captain Wells and Kalassori clear away several orcish tribes from the surrounding area. This sets the stage for the final confrontation with Ner'zhul. So that's it! We're in the endgame, everyone! Not a particularly lore-filled Lore update, but really we need to know what the hell is going on here, because things start to move in a... straight-ISH line. Actually, I'm starting to feel like I need to get out some more crayons. 
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Dec 5, 2018 12:37
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Warcraft geography is much like real premodern geography, in that it makes no sense and was probably made up in five minutes by someone drunk.
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Dec 5, 2018 12:54
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Man, I'm with Kalassori here.
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Dec 5, 2018 13:23
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Kalassori for President!
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HardDiskD posted:You say "probably"... Some premodern maps and geographic techniques are actually quite good. The same cannot generally be said for Warcraft.
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PurpleXVI posted:Man, I'm with Kalassori here. achtungnight posted:Kalassori for President!  : Kalassori Morningpath, yes. : Why do you encourage her? : 'Oi, Kala! Who're ya talkin' to?
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Dec 6, 2018 12:58
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Remember, the most efficient means of base defense is to put all valuable buildings outside the base, ensuring the base itself is never targeted and so cannot fall.
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Mors Rattus posted:Remember, the most efficient means of base defense is to put all valuable buildings outside the base, ensuring the base itself is never targeted and so cannot fall. : Captain Varin Wells. I would like to recommend a new member to our war council. They must be a genius by human standards.
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Dec 6, 2018 14:17
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There's also something to be said about putting up barracks in the middle of the enemy's base.
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If you're not already building a base in the enemy base as you clear stuff out, I have serious doubts about how you play
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Engineer rush, a staple of the C&C series
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Aces High posted:Engineer rush, a staple of the C&C series There's nothing more satisfying than killing your enemy with their own units.
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 Within the prisons of the Black Temple of the Shadowmoon...   : I really should leave the "being a reckless idiot" thing to Ruku. How the hell am I going to get out of this one? : By the curled nosehairs of Gul'dan, do you ever shut up?!: Oh, look who's feeling talkative again! It figures that I get locked up next to the one orc who can speak Common!  : Oh, yeah, I learned your pathetic language so I could hear you whine and moan all night long! Don't you humans have a word for shutting the hell up and accepting your fate?: You'd have to ask a priest about that one. : Glad to ssssee that you've made a friend, Neckssssmasher. : Glad to see you... urgh... are... such an... idiot.: Wow, great comeback there.: Shut up! Being locked in a cell for weeks sort of messes with my wit.: I'm not here to trade feeble witticissssmssss with you, Neckssssmasher.: I feel like if I had a speech impediment, I would avoid certain words...: Right?!: I want to know where your powerssss come from... mage. : Wait, you've kept me alive for this long because you haven't figured out... magic?: It's pronounced-! ...No, wait, you got it right.: Don't play coy with me, human. We know what you wield is more than ssssimple magickssss.: Wow, yeah, that is definitely the wrong way to pronounce it. : Laugh while you can, ssssimpletonssss! When Ner'zhul fulfillssss hissss desssstiny, you shall inaugurate our new world with your blood.: Yeah, yeah. Hey human, are you a priest? Because I got some fate to start accepting.  : You can't be serious about this. : Ya jus' gonna let da Chief die, Bloodbelly?: I mean...: Bloodbelly? Ya serious, mon?!: What are we supposed to do? Kill Darkweaver? Do you have an axe that re-kills the undead? Maybe some troll juju that seals his spirit inside a charm or something? : ...We can't jus' let da Chief get killed by dem dead wizards.: I know that. It's just... I don't want to die, too.: Let's go, Bloodbelly. We'll find our chance.: Goodbye... Chieftain.
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Dun Dun Dunnnnnnn!!!!!
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Was Necksmashers head so big he blocked all light coming into his cel by looking out the window?
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Ugh, censor that NSFW crap. Why are you drawing Necksmasher nude all of a sudden?! Give the poor orc at least a ball cap 
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My throat hurts just imagining how magickssssss is pronounced.
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It’s easy. Muh-gick and then you hiss.
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Dec 7, 2018 13:49
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Maa-jik-zzzzz
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Nah, it's definitely not a J sound, we're talking 'sounds kind of like gecko'.
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Magic doesn't work for them because they can't pronounce it right.
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It's odd, given their age I would have thought that bloodgut would have at least a +13 pointy stick. I guess magical items of superdeath aren't as common as they will be.
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Mors Rattus posted:Remember, the most efficient means of base defense is to put all valuable buildings outside the base, ensuring the base itself is never targeted and so cannot fall.
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Hey Kalassori Morningpath: Your base can never be attacked if you never build it in the first place. Also holy poo poo Gaz/Necksmasher team up? Wonder how Wells will feel about that
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A right laugh, aye? So that's how it's gonna go? Interesting.
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Alright, we're heading into the crazy holiday season. Updates will slow down again, but we're so, so close to finishing this all up, so expect some Miscellaneous updates the next few weeks as well as a lovely
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 Happy Winter Veil, everyone! I hope that you're all settling in with your favorite mug of Yuletide Rum* and watching a festive stage play about breaking into the homes of strangers and eating their snacks. As for Nigel and Varin's crews... well, just because they're on an alien world and in an entirely different timeline that doesn't mean they can't celebrate! May I present to you... The Winter Veil Duel of the Greatfathers!  That's right, this year we have not one, but two Greatfathers that you can clamber into the lap of! Very simply, all you need to do is write a letter to the Greatfather of your choice and tell him what you want for Winter Veil and why you deserve it. Then, all of the good boys and girls and everyone of every shape and stripe will get a response to their letter! As always, three special children will receive medals and their names forever remembered**! Of course, one grand prize winner will get a special AMAZING medal and a drawing of their choice from Azzur! Let's take a look at an example: Example 1 posted:Dear Greatfather Ruku Reckless Firefist, Example 2 posted:Dear Greatfather Necksmasher, Now for some details!
So good luck, everyone! And enjoy your Winter Veil! *This is just rum, but poured by Bloodgut wearing actual elf ears. He hates this. **”Forever” is not subject to chronological scrutiny. Azzur fucked around with this message at 12:27 on Dec 12, 2018 |
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