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mango sentinel posted:You phrased it on a way that seemed like it was habitual, but it's good to not buy games at release so good on you. Fair, I probably should have said "recently"
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I really liked exploring, starting poo poo in towns, and building settlements in fallout 4. 76 was made for me, basically, and I skipped it. I've always bought Bethesda stuff day one but now I'm definitely in a wait and see, I'm far less interested in starfield and tes6 now. 76 really made me stop and question what I like about their games, hope it was worth it to them to sacrifice all the good will they've built this past twenty years.
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mango sentinel posted:Blizz put out a lackluster xpac and Bethesda has FO76, what other output are you talking about? Blizzard games that suck: World of Warcraft Diablo 3 Diablo Immortal Honestly the last good game they made was Warcraft 3 Bethesda games that suck: Fallout 4 Fallout 76 Fallout Shelter Fallout 3 Really the only good thing that has come out of Bethesda owning Fallout is New Vegas.
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DoctorGonzo posted:Two questions Todd Howard is executive producer at Bethesda, which basically means he gets to tell people to make that green pixel blue and be a used car salesmen for games, promising anything. And it just keeps working somehow.
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I feel that regardless of their actual qualities, future games that uses the Creation Engine will be completely ripped to shreds by the gaming community; gamers like to harp on any sign of laziness or usage of shortcuts from developers and 76 has so definitely put the idea of the engine being outdated for the modern PC market that Starfield and TES VI will have an uphill struggle to find a goodwill community.
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BigglesSWE posted:I feel that regardless of their actual qualities, future games that uses the Creation Engine will be completely ripped to shreds by the gaming community; gamers like to harp on any sign of laziness or usage of shortcuts from developers and 76 has so definitely put the idea of the engine being outdated for the modern PC market that Starfield and TES VI will have an uphill struggle to find a goodwill community. I think the games will still be individually judged on their merits, but every time you grab a potion off a shelf and get murdered by a flying wheel of cheese, you'll obviously blame the lovely engine.
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BigglesSWE posted:Starfield and TES VI will have an uphill struggle to find a goodwill community. Now, though? Even my wife, who's a TES superfan, isn't interested in TES VI. I'm not gonna get it unless it somehow manages to defy expectations and be something resembling good.
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ETPC posted:there are people who genuinely believe fallout 4 had a good story though 
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Crabtree posted:Todd Howard is executive producer at Bethesda, which basically means he gets to tell people to make that green pixel blue and be a used car salesmen for games, promising anything. And it just keeps working somehow. It just works
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I love him. I love Todd Howard.
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Until FO76 I was looking forward to TESVI and was interested in Starfield, because I had assumed that the seeming hiatus from putting out TES/FO games after FO4 was because they were working on a new engine. Not based on anything Bethesda said or did, cuz I don't follow that kind of stuff, but it just seemed like common sense. The engine was super old, of COURSE they're working on a shiny new engine for TES VI, why else would there be so much time between Skyrim and it? Yeah, I could tell the gameplay wasn't going to be for me when they announced 76, but I was really excited in general at the thought of them finally nutting up and making a real next gen engine for the next cycle of games. Boy was I wrong.
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ETPC posted:there are people who genuinely believe fallout 4 had a good story though Ill agree that fallout 4s story isnt great but i will also say that its about 100 times better than 76 since you can have an impact and arent just wandering along making little to no impact on the world beyond bullshit.
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fancy shoes savior of pee sea gaming
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Paul Zuvella posted:Diablo 3 is actually really good Maybe. I won't play an online only game though.
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I was excited for 76 initially like most people. 2 to 4 player coop fallout yes please! Wait what do you mean its 16 or so people.. well ok i gue... Oh theres pvp ish. Huh ok. Oh theres nukes and no npcs and the anti griefing measures appear to make griefing worse. Ok ok cool Imma skip Release day: 2 HOUR DEBUFF, ENEMIES CONSTANTLY REGEN IF YOU SHOOT THEM, WEIGHT LIMIT IS PATHETIC. Thank gently caress i dodged that bullet.
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Fallout 4 was okay, but Fallout 76 is so bad that it went back in time and made Fallout 4 garbage too.
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And you know they have it in them to do worse. 76 isn't Bethesda trying to be lazy. Starfield is gonna be Bethesda's take on Destiny and its going to be a horrible glory.
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Crabtree posted:And you know they have it in them to do worse. 76 isn't Bethesda trying to be lazy. there's nothing I want more than another colorful kinda-space game where your kinda-robot guy kinda-flies around using kinda-magic or kinda-tech powers on dozens of generic aliens, only it plays like Skyrim
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Frog Act posted:there's nothing I want more than another colorful kinda-space game where your kinda-robot guy kinda-flies around using kinda-magic or kinda-tech powers on dozens of generic aliens, only it plays like Skyrim Ughhhhhhh when you put it like that you know it's exactly what they're doing and ughhhhhh
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The Todd descends upon humanity, creating an age of The Light. But The Darkness of criticism came and The Todd used up all his energy in his last E3 presentation and its up to you, The Starfield Born, to fight the Space Dragons, attain The Power, and build up the last bastion of civilization, The Last Garbage Town; and spend enough money to resurrect The Todd.
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Powershift posted:Fallout 4 was okay, but Fallout 76 is so bad that it went back in time and made Fallout 4 garbage too. Lol, Fallout 4 was garbage from the start. 
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Glad to see Bethesda using a Woke Brands tactics for good will on the rubes they fleeced.
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Fallout 4 as judged as a fallout game is a steaming pile of trash. Fallout 4 as judged as an elder scrolls loot/shoot/explore game is middling but enjoyable. When I buy fallout I want fallout, so FO3/4 I will forever poo poo on as terrible products.
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Tenzarin posted:Lol, Fallout 4 was garbage from the start. Agent355 posted:Fallout 4 as judged as a fallout game is a steaming pile of trash. 
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Rutibex posted:Blizzard games that suck: 
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Agent355 posted:Fallout 4 as judged as a fallout game is a steaming pile of trash. My exact feelings on Fallout 4. I liked it, but after I beat it, I was just done. Just no interesting roleplay opportunities, even FO3 pulled off the RPG side of things better.
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December 4th patch notedquote:PATCH VERSION: I am astounded by that 3GB patch size for consoles.
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Rutibex posted:Blizzard games that suck: Good news, they’re remastering it! No new games, it’s all remasters now! To be fair, Diablo 3 doesn’t so much suck More like it’s so old and has such outdated mechanics, it’s not top tier like Diablo 2 was for years after I recently tried World of Warcraft and it’s amazing how old and bad it looks. The interface, the control scheme, the text quests, it was great 13 years ago but today it’s laughable. I’m not surprised WOW is bleeding subscribers, I’m surprised it still has so many people paying.
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:I recently tried World of Warcraft and it’s amazing how old and bad it looks. The interface, the control scheme, the text quests, it was great 13 years ago but today it’s laughable. Speaking of games that are almost unplayable without mods  My theory, which I have a certain amount of anecdotal evidence for is that a lot of people still play it because people they know/like still play it. e: to tie this back around to Fallout, I'm pretty sure Blizz designs their raids around the people who maintain DBM/BigWigs adding all the relevant info about the fight into their mods sharknado slashfic fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Dec 1, 2018 |
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I keep getting attacked by invisible enemies and have lost most of both my carry capacity and CAMP build limit to invisible items but sure I guess kicking people who are AFK for 10 minutes is a higher priority.
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Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:To be fair, Diablo 3 doesn’t so much suck Diablo 3 is actually super good now. They really went all in and embraced the "kill ton of poo poo, loot stuff, get bigger numbers" loop and it's super fun. The problem with it is that's not deep at loving all. The season system works good for this in that you start a season, play for a couple of weeks, and once you top off and get as far as you want / complete as much of the journey as you care for you put it away until the next season. If they could flesh out the end game some more it'd be perfect. But for what it is right now it's great as long as you don't try to sink more than a month per season into it.
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Starcraft 2 understood literally nothing about what made Brood War good, but it was also by far the best single player RTS ever made, similarly to warcraft 3 when it was released. Blizzard's track record isn't bad, they just got exposed as not being as superlative as they were hyped up to be, because the vast majority of what made Brood War and D2 great were accidents rather than design decisions.
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I bought the starcraft battle chest and the manual for brood war smelled REALLY bad, like so bad i remember the smell like 20 years later that's my unrelated starcraft story, you're welcome.
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Rutibex posted:Really the only good thing that has come out of Bethesda owning Fallout is New Vegas. This is a fact. RIP Fallout.  
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JoWooD Presents ...Fallout 5: Inquisition.
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Don't know how many of you guys remember what the internet was like when Bethesda bought the rights to Fallout but can you imagine trying to explain to the No Mutants Allowed 'people' of what Bethesda was going to do to Fallout in 2018?
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Whatever came of that "I missed you so much" Pip Boy drawing Chris Avellone posted?
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KakerMix posted:Don't know how many of you guys remember what the internet was like when Bethesda bought the rights to Fallout but can you imagine trying to explain to the No Mutants Allowed 'people' of what Bethesda was going to do to Fallout in 2018? Fallout 76 is what they all thought Fallout 3 was.
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