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pidan posted:Sorry, I actually meant Haraldr Fairhair, Jarl of Ostlandet, and it's because it's a good start to expand, reform the religion, and enjoy the pagan lifestyle. Also he has the quick trait, is very young but an adult, has a decent bloodline, and isnt entangled in any scripted prepared invasions like the ragnar bros are.
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Midnight Voyager posted:Oh so THAT'S why I end up with underage kids giving birth at random!
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Thinking of getting back into this game with Holy Fury. I haven't picked up a DLC since Reaper's Due - are Jade Dragon or Monks and Mystics worthwhile? I don't have much interest in playing near Asia and when I last played people were pretty down on Monks and Mystics for being gimmicky, but maybe they've patched since?
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M&M is pretty great now, Societies are a bunch of fun. I'd also recommend Jade Dragon, since it interacts with half the world given the Silk Road. Plus the China mechanics are neat if a bit imbalanced.
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I dunno when you last looked into opinion on Monks & Mystics, but when it launched, Satanist societes were super overpowered. They've been toned down a bit since then, made more of a "high risk high reward" thing instead of just being "kidnap and murder anyone you want super easily." The other, still ongoing problem with Monks and Mystics is that secret religious societies tend to snowball to insane sizes in large realms and if you don't occasionally set your court chaplain to hunt for apostates, you will eventually have a situation where like, you're England and half your vassals are secretly Sunni and at that point it's a massive headache to correct. It can be fun if you roll with it, but it's also rather silly, even by CK2 standards. Luckily, you can turn off secret religious cults with a game rule if that's to your liking. Overall, I love the addition of societies. Jade Dragon is fun but if you're not within diplomatic range of China (basically anywhere from Constantinople eastwards, unless China gets really aggressively expansionistic) then I don't think it adds anything.
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Midnight Voyager posted:Oh so THAT'S why I end up with underage kids giving birth at random!
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OKay so I realized my council problem was because I didn't realize that when I was told "it will say why they're cockblocking you" that it shows them on the tool tip for their stance on the issue. Thought that creates new questions like "Claim The Tesco Parking Lot" is opposed by a counciler because they don't want me to "weaken the realm".
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Dec 2, 2018 05:11
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snoremac posted:Is it normal in a Charlemagne-era start for the Umayyad to dominate? As of 1008 they stretch from the borders of Ghana to Bohemia (which is also massive). The Spanish kingdoms never surfaced and France doesn't exist anymore. Even tucked up in Scotland & Ireland I'm getting a little worried about them. Theoretically Holy Fury gives Christianity a bit more of a chance, with the reconquista on one side and Teutonic Knights and mass conversion on the other, but nobody's really reported on how well those stem the tide yet.
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Dec 2, 2018 05:14
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That reminds me, when does Scotland stop being Pictland? It just bugs me seeing that because the Picts were a people that bothered the Romans. I could have sworn they were gone by the time of the Norman Invasion.
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twistedmentat posted:That reminds me, when does Scotland stop being Pictland? It just bugs me seeing that because the Picts were a people that bothered the Romans. I could have sworn they were gone by the time of the Norman Invasion. Once they stop being Picts, if I remember.
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twistedmentat posted:That reminds me, when does Scotland stop being Pictland? It just bugs me seeing that because the Picts were a people that bothered the Romans. I could have sworn they were gone by the time of the Norman Invasion. There are a bunch of cultures that shift over time from the Charlemagne start - it's a pre-designated event thing. Picts become Scots unless there's a particularly powerful Pictish ruler controlling the realm (Emperor level). So basically the cultures will always die out naturally unless something wildly ahistorical happens that preserves them.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Theoretically Holy Fury gives Christianity a bit more of a chance, with the reconquista on one side and Teutonic Knights and mass conversion on the other, but nobody's really reported on how well those stem the tide yet. I had the reconquista pop up in my most recent campaign with 1500 guys in one barony and do absolutely nothing because the Umayyads own basically all of Iberia except for the parts I conquered from them myself.
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twistedmentat posted:That reminds me, when does Scotland stop being Pictland? It just bugs me seeing that because the Picts were a people that bothered the Romans. I could have sworn they were gone by the time of the Norman Invasion. Pictish provinces will culture flip to Scottish after some time, unless they're ruled by a powerful Pict ruler, meaning the ruler must either be an emperor, or hold at least two kingdom titles. Once Pictish culture flips to Scottish, characters will also culture change to Scottish. If Pictland is ruled by a non-Pict, it will flip to Scotland. Which year is it? twistedmentat posted:Thought that creates new questions like "Claim The Tesco Parking Lot" is opposed by a counciler because they don't want me to "weaken the realm". What do you want to do here? Some councilors don't like you attacking an enemy with more troops than you, some don't like you attacking an enemy with less troops than you.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Theoretically Holy Fury gives Christianity a bit more of a chance, with the reconquista on one side and Teutonic Knights and mass conversion on the other, but nobody's really reported on how well those stem the tide yet. The thing about the Reconquista is that it's not the same thing as a crusade where any Christian ruler can join in - ONLY Iberian cultures can participate, and in the Charlemagne start that means it's literally just the one remaining christian kingdom. Even with a bunch of free event troops it's still an uphill battle for them, especially if it's under AI control where they won't be nearly as aggressive/smart about it as a player would.
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The Cheshire Cat posted:There are a bunch of cultures that shift over time from the Charlemagne start - it's a pre-designated event thing. Picts become Scots unless there's a particularly powerful Pictish ruler controlling the realm (Emperor level). So basically the cultures will always die out naturally unless something wildly ahistorical happens that preserves them. Did they change it for Holy Fury? Last I checked Picts-to-Scots was simply "a Pictish county controlled by a non-Pict" (unless there's a powerful emperor). Looking at it right now, there's a "should_evolve_cultures_trigger" that I've never seen before, is that automatically making them flip?
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Torrannor posted:Pictish provinces will culture flip to Scottish after some time, unless they're ruled by a powerful Pict ruler, meaning the ruler must either be an emperor, or hold at least two kingdom titles. Once Pictish culture flips to Scottish, characters will also culture change to Scottish. If Pictland is ruled by a non-Pict, it will flip to Scotland. 1051. What you guys are describing is probably going to happen fairly soon. quote:What do you want to do here? Some councilors don't like you attacking an enemy with more troops than you, some don't like you attacking an enemy with less troops than you. I have more men than the Scots, so its probably something I'm not seeing. At least I have some idea how to deal with my councilers. Is there a way i can stop losing Wales everytime my monarch dies? twistedmentat fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Dec 2, 2018 |
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On the topic of pictland, when I formed Britannia it created the Empire of Alba. Will that change to Britannia at some point or will a pictish emperor stop that too?
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Azhais posted:On the topic of pictland, when I formed Britannia it created the Empire of Alba. Will that change to Britannia at some point or will a pictish emperor stop that too? Alba is what Britannia is called if your Pictish, Irish, or Scottish (and maybe Breton, I forget.)
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Pakled posted:Jade Dragon is fun but if you're not within diplomatic range of China (basically anywhere from Constantinople eastwards, unless China gets really aggressively expansionistic) then I don't think it adds anything. You do still get the new CBs. I haven't really used them much but they look like they'd be nice for when you're in some place like Ireland where otherwise you're relying solely on claims.
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My idiot brother just managed to lose half of wales to the English. I worked so drat hard to gain that territory.
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catlord posted:Did they change it for Holy Fury? Last I checked Picts-to-Scots was simply "a Pictish county controlled by a non-Pict" (unless there's a powerful emperor). Looking at it right now, there's a "should_evolve_cultures_trigger" that I've never seen before, is that automatically making them flip? I think it's always worked like this - the "Pictish county controlled by a non-Pict" would accelerate the process but it would flip naturally even under entirely Pictish lords, unless they are powerful enough to block it.
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Why would you ever want to stop being Picts, really. It's like being Irish, you get a bunch of weird names and none of your counties have pronounceable names.
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Little bugs are annoying.  Right now you can't nominate your children for elective titles if their other parent is a candidate.Also, it's dishonorable to challenge women to a duel even if you're also a woman.
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Okay, now that i know how to uncover plots, what do I do about them? I can't imprison the plotters, because I have an tiny chance of that working, and plotting to kill them takes too long and his hit or miss.
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twistedmentat posted:Okay, now that i know how to uncover plots, what do I do about them? I can't imprison the plotters, because I have an tiny chance of that working, and plotting to kill them takes too long and his hit or miss. Depending on how much they like you, you can often just ask them to stop. In the diplomatic options with someone who's leading a plot there's an "end plot" option, and if they're backing a plot there's a "stop backing plot" option. So even if the plot leader hates your guts, you might be able to take all the wind out of their sails by getting the stronger backers to drop out. The Cheshire Cat fucked around with this message at 07:09 on Dec 2, 2018 |
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twistedmentat posted:Okay, now that i know how to uncover plots, what do I do about them? I can't imprison the plotters, because I have an tiny chance of that working, and plotting to kill them takes too long and his hit or miss. In addition to asking them to stop as The Cheshire Cat said, trying and failing to imprison them isn't necessarily a bad thing. If they're a landed vassal, if you try and fail to imprison them for any reason, they'll rise up in rebellion against you. These wars are usually super easy unless like, they're a mega-powerful vassal or there's some other war going on. When you win the war, they automatically become imprisoned by you and you can revoke two titles of theirs tyranny-free. Be aware, though, that any other vassals of yours that they're allied with can join them in the war, but after the war's over, you have an imprisonment reason against them too. If they're not a landed vassal and you fail to imprison them, they flee to a foreign court where you can't imprison them and so your options are more limited.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Theoretically Holy Fury gives Christianity a bit more of a chance, with the reconquista on one side and Teutonic Knights and mass conversion on the other, but nobody's really reported on how well those stem the tide yet. My experience so far has been that if Francia/HRE forms, then Catholicism has a bright future ahead of it. If not, then you, the player, are probably going to have to single handedly beat back the tide of Islam because the Catholic states will, in typical CK2 fashion, be so wrapped up in petty dick measuring that they won't be able to stop the Umayyids/Abbasids from conquering everything. Or, you know, just accept the truth that there is one God and Mohammed is his prophet and be Sunni Irish or whatever.
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twistedmentat posted:1051. What you guys are describing is probably going to happen fairly soon. Oh? That's very late, the event most likely should have fired before that time. I guess the patch messed this up, as catlord's post implies. twistedmentat posted:Is there a way i can stop losing Wales everytime my monarch dies? Yes. Do you still have gavelkind succession for your Irish king title? If so, it automatically splits up your titles. If you have changed that to primogeniture/ultimogeniture/tanistry, great! No more title loss. BUT, each kingdom has it's own succession law. I guess it's most likely that the kingdom of Wales still had gavelkind succession, which lead to your idiot brother inheriting. When you next acquire Wales, be sure to change it's inheritance to the same your Irish kingdom uses, so that it doesn't happen again. You can change inheritance laws in your laws title, it's the very first page. If you have two kingdoms, you can switch between them by clicking on the respective coat of arms at the top of that page.
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On the topic of broken DHEs, has anyone seen any of the turkish warlords fire recently? I don't think I have since like... conclave or way of life
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Fuligin posted:On the topic of broken DHEs, has anyone seen any of the turkish warlords fire recently? I don't think I have since like... conclave or way of life Seljuk fired in my Africa game and then immediately got ganked before he could conquer anything
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MaxieSatan posted:Seljuk fired in my Africa game and then immediately got ganked before he could conquer anything Yeah I feel like it's been that way for a while - the "great conqueror" events I think still scale their armies to their target the same way the Shia uprising does, rather than just getting a giant unstoppable doomstack like the Aztecs, so very frequently they just fall flat on their face and unlike the Shia uprising, they don't get more chances again later.
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Fuligin posted:On the topic of broken DHEs, has anyone seen any of the turkish warlords fire recently? I don't think I have since like... conclave or way of life I had Seljuk and Sabuktigin both in my most recent game. The requirements for them to fire are kind of strict though, especially with India or nomads often invading that part of that map. Seljuk was pathetic against the massive Indian empire next door. Sabuktigin despite starting with even more event troops is about to suffer the same fate. e: I should point out I'm not playing this Indian Empire. It seems like Pratihara forms as a huge empire without fail every game now. GokuGoesSSj69 fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Dec 2, 2018 |
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GokuGoesSSJ3 posted:e: I should point out I'm not playing this Indian Empire. It seems like Pratihara forms as a huge empire without fail every game now.
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In general I think India is way overtuned in terms of province wealth and its holdings. Followers of Arjuna used to be available from any start date and would also just clown on any muslims trying to break into the subcontinent, but I think they fixed that.
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Strudel Man posted:Some of the coronation events may not be suitably aware that children can occasionally go through them. I knew Catholics were getting a rework in this expansion, but that's going a bit far. Re: Forming Britannia - I think it's Prydain for Bretons. I know it is for the Welsh, but it's been a long time since I took Haesteinn to Wales before Ireland.
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Fuligin posted:In general I think India is way overtuned in terms of province wealth and its holdings. Followers of Arjuna used to be available from any start date and would also just clown on any muslims trying to break into the subcontinent, but I think they fixed that. Yeah, you need a lot of provinces in India to form the holy orders before 1100. Afterwards, it just costs a bit prestige.
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Strudel Man posted:Little bugs are annoying. It's also dishonorable to duel someone old even if you're older. He's 52 and I'm 77. Pick up that goddamn axe you wuss.
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Stairmaster posted:Why this particularly? gonna give a shout out to my man, riklfur ulfing, count of ostergotland. young adult, content and never stressed, usually a good/great martial score and pretty much guaranteed to become a berzerker. just loot and pillage and terrorize most of europe 'til old man ironside dies, then forge your own path from the top of a massive warchest.
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I like how the obituary of your ruler rarely matches your perception of them. My ruler was a virtuous man with lots of loyal friends (enough to unlock the Yes Men achievement), good to the Church, and made significant territorial gains including a new kingdom title. He’s remembered as a raving madman everyone is quietly glad to be rid of. I can’t recall anything in that vein happening.
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