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Improbable Lobster posted:Skin doesn't reflect different amounts of light based on gender friendo True. Though hormonal differences between the genders lead to differences in skin thickness, pore size, etc that can have an impact on how you want to paint it. Though honestly it would depend more on the musculature of the minis; if you want to emphasis muscles you would make the shadows and highlights more stark, if you wanted to emphasis smoothness you will go with softer shadows and more blending. Since most miniatures emphasis the muscles of male characters, you tend to do with different painting techniques there. Though it isn't a hard and fast rule that is tied to gender; there are more muscular female characters and male characters who don't have as defined musculature. It is the difference between  and 
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Why are you doing this No really, I want to see citations that hormones affect skin thickness and pore size
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LordAba posted:True. Though hormonal differences between the genders lead to differences in skin thickness, pore size, etc that can have an impact on how you want to paint it. gently caress off.
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Females need smaller pores because you don't want picked berries to get stuck in the pores. 
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LordAba posted:True. Though hormonal differences between the genders lead to differences in skin thickness, pore size, etc that can have an impact on how you want to paint it. So, in addition to being a fascist, you're a creepy misogynist. I shouldn't be surprised, those tend to go hand-in-hand.
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StuG Jeebus posted:Why are you doing this That part is true, skin thickness and pore size is a real difference, there are also differences in elasticity. It's actually a pretty noticeable thing if you look at MtF people on HRT Here's a paper on skin thickness for example. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/27273751 You're talking about a difference that won't really play at the mini scale though, it kinda just comes down to women's skin has less natural oils, more likely to be able to make out veins due to thinner skin being more translucent, and being a smidge fairer skinned in general. It's still loving human skin though, don't know why any idiot would want to act like it's so different and requires differences in how you paint it.
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loving hell thread pull up
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LordAba posted:True. Though hormonal differences between the genders lead to differences in skin thickness, pore size, etc that can have an impact on how you want to paint it. 
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"Using higher contrast skintones on a figure will emphasize its muscles." There, I've translated the post from creepy weirdo into actionable technique.
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Moola posted:loving hell thread pull up Too late. The honeypot is working.
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 i'm here to save the thread! my earlier post was a response to that picture.
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I often pound away at my style.
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Crankin my hog to accurate fe-male skin thickness
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This is what happens to people when they don't go outside and talk to other people once in a while
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"I feel like this may be my Mona Lisa" lol
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Haha, pretty much. Skin tones are fun to play around with, and there is a lot to learn about them from the art world (even if half that poo poo don't apply to miniatures like moths said). They are also really easy to gently caress up: since we see examples in other people and ourselves every day, it can be easy to point out what is wrong with a paint job.
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While the way it was put was really creepy, it's similar to advice you get in art and portraiture a lot. I'd say it's partially based on biology and partially on people's conception of how men and women are supposed to look. Women naturally carry a higher proportion of body fat, which fills in crags where you would get deep, stark shadows, so it tends to look 'off' when a woman is depicted artistically with very high contrast in their skin or very sharp angles. That said, the concept of feminine beauty people hold is a bit more 'fragile' and while you can get away with a man's face and skin having unrealistically high contrast and look more 'rugged' people will immediately jump on a female face or form having unrealistically stark or exaggerated shadows. Not necessarily fair or reasonable, but it's kinda a reality of how we perceive people. For example, in that bust(putting aside that she's a flasher, while that skin looks like poo poo with a female face, your typical exaggerated male face with a larger mouth , the darker muzzle would get rationalized as stubble, and you could probably get away on that much contrast on pectoral cleavage, compared to the softer contrast you'd expect from less softly curved skin. I'm realizing this is sounding a bit... overly frank, but once you've done nude drawing/painting a few times you get a little indelicate about describing stuff like this.
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Unspiration Thread: the soft curved skin of the feeeeemales
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I mostly say that as in opposition to the more sharply curved skin of the chiseled pectoral of a maaaaaaaaale. It gets kinda disturbingly clinical in a life drawing session and it's hard to really convey the difference between the necessary objectification and disconnect between body and person you need to discuss the negative space around somebody's balls or the distribution of fat deposits on their hips and stomach from someone drooling at model tits using purely text. Tldr: the discussions of artists drawing naked people are a bit surreal and weird.
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Felime posted:Tldr: the discussions of artists drawing naked people are a bit surreal and weird. Artists love to draw naked people, I'm pretty sure it started because we needed porn and no one had invented the daguerreotype yet.
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moola you don't know anything about having skin
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Moola posted:Unspiration Thread: the soft curved bones of the feeeeemales
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Felime posted:Unspiration Thread: you need to discuss the negative space around somebody's balls
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The whole thing is moot as the original "work" is poo poo, along with being a steampunk-titty bust which probably cost them £/$/€60.
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Iron Crowned posted:Artists love to draw naked people, I'm pretty sure it started because we needed porn and no one had invented the daguerreotype yet. To draw a person with clothes well, you draw a naked person first then add clothes. Also artists are a bunch of weirdos. The art building bathrooms always have the best graffiti.
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LashLightning posted:The whole thing is moot as the original "work" is poo poo, along with being a steampunk-titty bust which probably cost them £/$/€60. To be fair, it's clearly unfinished. The next step is dropping it into a volcano
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The universal solution: Drop the painter in a volcano. ...makes me miss the incel thread.
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Frobbe posted:
This is clearly a WIP, but why would make a twit extolling your own genius like that when the mini is in such a poo poo looking state. Also judging by the parts that do look finished the guy probably isn't very good. Also lol that pose.
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StuG Jeebus posted:moola you don't know anything about having skin this is insanely racist!
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It's not technically models for wargames, but I just had to crosspost this here:ThisIsJohnWayne posted:Perfect timing to share a thing I found 6min ago: Gonna weep over how good that water looks.
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You know what this thread needs? Some of my terrible sculpting.  Kasa-obake for a skirmish game I’m designing. Not horrible for a first try, but definitely needs improvement. Japanese monsters are weird.
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It'll look better once you add the skimpily dressed schoolgirl at the end of the tongue. Just remember to paint her skin lighter and remember the negative space around her balls.
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Hedningen posted:You know what this thread needs? Some of my terrible sculpting. I thought it was some kind of Nurgle banana until I saw the geta You should make nurglenanas(banurglings?) instead
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he took inspiration from the corpse he keeps in his basement
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BattleMaster posted:he took inspiration from the corpse he keeps in his basement People are really into taxidermy these days I hear.
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Hedningen posted:You know what this thread needs? Some of my terrible sculpting. I've been wanting to get into sculpting. What material do you use? How did you learn to do it? I want to make my own tongue bananas.
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Maybe making a wire/paper-clip mesh/skeleton would help.
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I'm the muffin top
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