Stellaris: a second Astral Planes has hit the game

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ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
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Baronjutter posted:

Went and checked out the official forums

Found your problem.

I have never, ever, encountered an official social media platform (I'm including forums in that as well as facebook, etc) that wasn't filled with mouthbreathing jackholes.

Even Reddit is usually better than the official forums. .

# ? Dec 4, 2018 18:44

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# ? May 26, 2024 09:27

prefect: Sep 11, 2001; No one, Woodhouse.
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Baronjutter posted:

Guy keeps complaining about how it's so lovely that we the player need to fix these things by hand and paradox should fix them and not just tell us to "find a mod"
Darkrenown again very clearly and politely explains that he did actually fix the problem, it's fixed, it was an easy fix and it's actually fixed now.
Guy keeps passive aggressively commenting that he hopes every other player finds the bug as easy to fix as it was for Darkrenown, as if all this time Darkrenown had only fixed the bug for his personal copy of the game??

I can imagine how years of dealing with interactions like this can make any dev a bit snappy and quick to assume anyone complaining about something is an idiot

I don't follow these things too closely, but this sounds like every game forum about every game. (Present company excluded, of course.)

# ? Dec 4, 2018 18:47

null_pointer: Nov 9, 2004; Center in, pull back. Stop. Track 45 right. Stop. Center and stop.

prefect posted:

(Present company excluded, of course.)

Stellaris 2.2: Mouth breathing robot jackholes

# ? Dec 4, 2018 18:52

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

Also despite the fact that countless youtubes are showing the game working pretty ok and the AI is building stuff, because of that one reddit post where a guy says he found certain situations where the AI was again not building ships and buildings they had resources for, now tons of people are in full "game will be unplayable with the AI NEVER building ships!?!?!" sky is falling mode. Hey guys did you hear the AI is so bad it will never ever build ships or buildings? How could paradox release this?! Yo, only read the last page of this thread but apparently you can't build space ships in the game about building spaceships paradox thinks this is ok?!

I get why these youtubers had to sign NDA's and review embargoes.

*tiny brain* waiting for the game to come out like a normal adult
*normal brain* watching preview youtubes and getting some minor concerns about things you've seen but taking it all with a grain of salt and optimism that the minor ones will be patched before the 6th.
*glowing brain* writing multi-paragraph detailed analysis proving that certain choices are now "OP" or "traps" based on 5 seconds of gameplay you saw out of context and dying on that hill even when the devs explain.
*galaxy brain* not actually watching any youtubes or reading any dev diaries but getting mad as hell about the game based on 4th hand information you misinterpreted from someone else's already wrong post.

# ? Dec 4, 2018 18:59

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Baronjutter posted:

*tiny brain* waiting for the game to come out like a normal adult
*normal brain* watching preview youtubes and getting some minor concerns about things you've seen but taking it all with a grain of salt and optimism that the minor ones will be patched before the 6th.
*glowing brain* writing multi-paragraph detailed analysis proving that certain choices are now "OP" or "traps" based on 5 seconds of gameplay you saw out of context and dying on that hill even when the devs explain.
*galaxy brain* not actually watching any youtubes or reading any dev diaries but getting mad as hell about the game based on 4th hand information you misinterpreted from someone else's already wrong post.

This is gamers.txt

# ? Dec 4, 2018 19:08

Psychotic Weasel: Jun 24, 2004; Bang! You're dead.

The internet was a mistake...

If you ever find yourself going to the official Paradox forums it helps to only look at threads where an employee has responded and even then make sure you're filtering for dev posts.

I'm going to assume if someone took time out of their day to read and then reply to something it wasn't just inane drivel.

# ? Dec 4, 2018 19:17

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

Psychotic Weasel posted:

The internet was a mistake...

If you ever find yourself going to the official Paradox forums it helps to only look at threads where an employee has responded and even then make sure you're filtering for dev posts.

I'm going to assume if someone took time out of their day to read and then reply to something it wasn't just inane drivel.

Yeah that's pretty much all I do, the filter by dev post is the greatest feature on any official forum I've ever seen.

# ? Dec 4, 2018 19:21

Kitchner: Nov 9, 2012; IT CAN'T BE BARGAINED WITH.
IT CAN'T BE REASONED WITH.
IT DOESN'T FEEL PITY, OR REMORSE, OR FEAR.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT STOP, EVER, UNTIL YOU ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT WARHAMMER; Clapping Larry

The other reason to read the official forums was to appreciate Wiz telling climate change deniers to shut up.

# ? Dec 4, 2018 19:26

Nemo2342: Nov 26, 2007; Have A Day; Nap Ghost

Baronjutter posted:

People are weirdly passive aggressive and a bit thick there though. Was reading one thread about robots, guy had a lot of legitimate concerns about robot production and robot worker assignment because someone's minebot got assigned to a farm instead of a mine. cue tons of people crying the sky is falling and the worker assignment AI is the new sector AI that will ruin all our planets. Darkrenown explains that worker job weights are incredibly easy to change/mod your self if you don't like how the AI handles them, and on looking at those weights he realized there was actually a slight bug that was giving robots too much farming weight.

I watched this happen to a streamer last night. His mine bots kept getting assigned to the farm, so he decided to make some farm bots instead. However in the process he got a "hey, there are some criminals here, what do you want to do?" event to which he chose "yay crime" in response because he was a criminal corporation and figured it would be good idea. That created a new Criminal job, which got immediately assigned one of his robot miners as well.

So while he was laughing about his new robot crimelord he got a follow-up notification that crime was growing, so now he has 3 robot miners working away at a criminal drug lab.

# ? Dec 4, 2018 19:27

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# ? Dec 4, 2018 19:29

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

Nemo2342 posted:

I watched this happen to a streamer last night. His mine bots kept getting assigned to the farm, so he decided to make some farm bots instead. However in the process he got a "hey, there are some criminals here, what do you want to do?" event to which he chose "yay crime" in response because he was a criminal corporation and figured it would be good idea. That created a new Criminal job, which got immediately assigned one of his robot miners as well.

So while he was laughing about his new robot crimelord he got a follow-up notification that crime was growing, so now he has 3 robot miners working away at a criminal drug lab.

Drug mine my friend, drug mine.

# ? Dec 4, 2018 19:30

Zurai: Feb 13, 2012; Wait -- I haven't even voted in this game yet!

Nemo2342 posted:

I watched this happen to a streamer last night. His mine bots kept getting assigned to the farm, so he decided to make some farm bots instead. However in the process he got a "hey, there are some criminals here, what do you want to do?" event to which he chose "yay crime" in response because he was a criminal corporation and figured it would be good idea. That created a new Criminal job, which got immediately assigned one of his robot miners as well.

So while he was laughing about his new robot crimelord he got a follow-up notification that crime was growing, so now he has 3 robot miners working away at a criminal drug lab.

GOTY every year.

# ? Dec 4, 2018 19:32

ConfusedUs: Feb 24, 2004; Bees?
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# ? Dec 4, 2018 19:37

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# ? Dec 4, 2018 19:39

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ConfusedUs posted:

Jesus Christ, Martin. They�re not rocks, they�re space drugs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UrDvruoubA

# ? Dec 4, 2018 19:40

pokie: Apr 27, 2008; IT HAPPENED!

Is there a way to get achievements with mods like Guilli's planet modifiers? There is a part of me that's a sucker for achievements, but I also like mods more than chievos...

Also, when I asked about major changes in Apoc etc, no one told me about FTL inhibitors, especially ones from planetary fortresses. That's some evil poo poo, and it definitely realigns how I would want to build my defenses.

# ? Dec 4, 2018 19:42

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

One of the first batches of mods for Skylines was a mod that let you get cheevos with mods. But I feel like the paradox community is way more serious about that poo poo being iron-man only.

# ? Dec 4, 2018 19:44

Staltran: Jan 3, 2013; Fallen Rib

pokie posted:

Is there a way to get achievements with mods like Guilli's planet modifiers? There is a part of me that's a sucker for achievements, but I also like mods more than chievos...

Also, when I asked about major changes in Apoc etc, no one told me about FTL inhibitors, especially ones from planetary fortresses. That's some evil poo poo, and it definitely realigns how I would want to build my defenses.

Go to Stellaris/common/achievements.txt and find-replace is_ironman = yes to is_ironman = no. Or do it properly and make a mod containing that modified file, google how to do that because I don't remember the details.

e: Also why is the release at 18 CET, dammit PDS you can release it during the stream not after it. Isn't that how they did it with Distant Stars at least? Is it just because they want the devs to be ready to respond to bugs instead of being busy with the dev clash?

# ? Dec 4, 2018 19:50

John Lee: Mar 2, 2013; A time traveling adventure everyone can enjoy

Splicer posted:

- LeGuin Park, 2018

This was seriouspost BTW. Being under your cap is arguably bad, because you're not fully utilising your resources. Being at and being above your cap should be the same colour because how high you want to focus situational. Green being equal to or above your cap doesn't work though because going red -> green implies that continuing in that direction means even more green. Red and yellow doesn't work because we're pretty solidly conditioned for red -> yellow -> implied green if you can get to it. So red below cap, then blue (or white) at or above cap.

Yellow below with blue (or white) equal to or above would also work.

I mean, if you view the game entirely as an optimization problem, sure.

# ? Dec 4, 2018 19:51

Baronjutter: Dec 31, 2007; "Tiny Trains"

Staltran posted:

Go to Stellaris/common/achievements.txt and find-replace is_ironman = yes to is_ironman = no. Or do it properly and make a mod containing that modified file, google how to do that because I don't remember the details.

e: Also why is the release at 18 CET, dammit PDS you can release it during the stream not after it. Isn't that how they did it with Distant Stars at least? Is it just because they want the devs to be ready to respond to bugs instead of being busy with the dev clash?

I think you need to pay steam extra bux to release a game at a specific time, otherwise their default is someone at steam flips the switch first thing in the morning, which is 9am PST for them.

# ? Dec 4, 2018 19:57

Magil Zeal: Nov 24, 2008

John Lee posted:

I mean, if you view the game entirely as an optimization problem, sure.

Well, the entire point of the empire size/admin cap is to give you information to assist in optimization. If you don't care about optimization you can freely ignore the number altogether.

Edit: Of course I'm pretty sure the best idea is to just take everything you possibly can. Just maybe at a measured pace.

Magil Zeal fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Dec 4, 2018

# ? Dec 4, 2018 20:01

pokie: Apr 27, 2008; IT HAPPENED!

Staltran posted:

Go to Stellaris/common/achievements.txt and find-replace is_ironman = yes to is_ironman = no. Or do it properly and make a mod containing that modified file, google how to do that because I don't remember the details.

I did this, but the game still says I am ineligible for achievements with ironman off and complains about checksum due to mods. I started a new game w/o ironman and cheated myself some stuff to build a robot, and nope, no achievement.

# ? Dec 4, 2018 20:08

Preston Waters: May 21, 2010; by VideoGames

What are the proper names for colonies after "Prime?" I know Secundus, but what after that?

# ? Dec 4, 2018 20:11

pokie: Apr 27, 2008; IT HAPPENED!

Preston Waters posted:

What are the proper names for colonies after "Prime?" I know Secundus, but what after that?

In my experience it's "Prime" all the way down.

# ? Dec 4, 2018 20:12

Bloodly: Nov 3, 2008; Not as strong as you'd expect.

Tertius, Quartus, Quintus....I've seen more, but I can't recall them off-hand. I think it gives up after about 6 to 8.

# ? Dec 4, 2018 20:12

Sandwich Anarchist: Sep 12, 2008

Preston Waters posted:

What are the proper names for colonies after "Prime?" I know Secundus, but what after that?

Choice, Select

# ? Dec 4, 2018 20:13

Preston Waters: May 21, 2010; by VideoGames

just lol when you terraform Mars and go to colonize it and it recommends "Sol Prime" as the name

# ? Dec 4, 2018 20:16

Kitchner: Nov 9, 2012; IT CAN'T BE BARGAINED WITH.
IT CAN'T BE REASONED WITH.
IT DOESN'T FEEL PITY, OR REMORSE, OR FEAR.
AND IT ABSOLUTELY WILL NOT STOP, EVER, UNTIL YOU ADMIT YOU'RE WRONG ABOUT WARHAMMER; Clapping Larry

Preston Waters posted:

just lol when you terraform Mars and go to colonize it and it recommends "Sol Prime" as the name

loving Martians are getting uppity and have renamed Mars "Sol Prime", so we have renamed Earth to be "REAL Sol Prime".

# ? Dec 4, 2018 20:18

Splicer: Oct 16, 2006; from hell's heart I cast at thee
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John Lee posted:

I mean, if you view the game entirely as an optimization problem, sure.

This is a real non sequitor dude.

# ? Dec 4, 2018 20:19

Psychotic Weasel: Jun 24, 2004; Bang! You're dead.

Fine, they can be Team A. We'll be Team 1.

# ? Dec 4, 2018 20:20

PittTheElder: Feb 13, 2012; Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

John Lee posted:

I mean, if you view the game entirely as an optimization problem, sure.

If you're not playing optimally, you're not clowning your friends in MP, and then what's the point?

# ? Dec 4, 2018 20:26

Technical Analysis: Nov 21, 2007; I got 99 problems but the British ain't one.

Bloodly posted:

The problem is the 'service guarantees citizenship' i.e that people who don't serve, have no say and are effectively slaves.

They're still free to do with their lives as they wish. They just haven't earned the privilege of the vote.

# ? Dec 4, 2018 21:01

Agean90: Jun 28, 2008

Technical Analysis posted:

They're still free to do with their lives as they wish. They just haven't earned the privilege of the vote.

We regret that inform you that people who can vote have reduced the others that serfdom

# ? Dec 4, 2018 21:05

Staltran: Jan 3, 2013; Fallen Rib

pokie posted:

I did this, but the game still says I am ineligible for achievements with ironman off and complains about checksum due to mods. I started a new game w/o ironman and cheated myself some stuff to build a robot, and nope, no achievement.

Huh. Well, Steam achievement manager is always an option.