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DLC Inc posted:removing C4 wtf that is a legit step backward from the other games. christ JC2 really was a fluke. Tbf JC and JC2 were the only ones made by the main Avalanche team with these last two made by a NY studio. I liked Mad Max more than I should have and that game was in development hell for ages, so I'm holding out hope for Rage 2. Even though who cares about the Rage license.
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DLC Inc posted:removing C4 wtf that is a legit step backward from the other games. christ JC2 really was a fluke. What is the thought process on this? Did they not realize that C4 was like one of the most fun ways to destroy stuff in the previous games? That's gotta be the dumbest design decision I've heard about in a while, jesus.
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Dec 4, 2018 21:54
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Wait hang on did they really remove C4 from the game? I thought y'all were joking 
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Dec 4, 2018 22:10
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If you want exploding sticky things there are a lot of different modifiers for your tether to make them explode. Pulse on reactor, hydrogen on balloon and explode on thruster.
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Dec 4, 2018 22:26
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Well, just had a new GPU crash. I'm under the two hour mark. It's refund time and maybe I'll return some other day.
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Dec 4, 2018 22:28
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Another thing, the UI is loving hot garbage if you're using M&KB... holy gently caress @ the design decisions in this game.
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Dec 4, 2018 22:31
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Mordja posted:Welp, I was hoping this would improve on the last game's failures, but now maybe I'll just pick up JC3 on the cheap if I want some mindless destruction. I hear this game doesn't even have C4s or grenades anymore? I mean, it's pretty easy to get an assault rifle with a grenade launcher or an RPG. But yeah, this is hosed so far unless you get some sorta upgrade later.
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Taintrunner posted:I mean, it's pretty easy to get an assault rifle with a grenade launcher or an RPG. But yeah, this is hosed so far unless you get some sorta upgrade later. Have you bothered to try any of the exploding mods for the tether?
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Dec 4, 2018 22:47
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Inzombiac posted:Well, just had a new GPU crash. I'm under the two hour mark. It's refund time and maybe I'll return some other day. I was playing the game for like 4 hours straight yesterday and didn't have a single crash, GPU or otherwise.
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Dec 4, 2018 23:12
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Indiana_Krom posted:I was playing the game for like 4 hours straight yesterday and didn't have a single crash, GPU or otherwise. i crashed on the opening mission 3 times and that mission is boring as HELL
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Dec 4, 2018 23:16
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I had one crash on my brand new 1080ti. This game is hosed.
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Dec 4, 2018 23:24
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Spent 80 minutes playing this and I already like it much, much more than JC3. Visually it's pretty decent but not as good as JC2, the colour palette during certain times of day has some terrible blacks (Easy now) but I've not had any of the horrible LOD issues I'm seeing. I figured it was my monitor but I'm recording it on a seperate one and it looks bad there. The decision to use recorded cutscenes is baffling because they're hideously compressed. Texture quality up close on anything but characters is also real, real bad. I'm thinking that must be a bug. Vehicle handling feels better, mercifully. Cars are much heavier and feel closer to JC2. I love the balloon attachments for the grapple and have some fun footage recorded from abusing them, but holy poo poo the menus suck on the PC. I'm having a good time so far but I'll keep playing before I make a full verdict. E: WOOF. Just found the area people are pointing out where the LoD and texture work is horribly, obviously broken. It's in the mountainside area for Javi's first mission and oh boy is it bad. Songbearer fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Dec 4, 2018 |
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I Played JC3 on PC with KB/M, and now after playing on the console it's obvious they optimized it for this input. I remember in 3 when you latched onto someone and zoomed in to kick, they would go flying and give you a shot at blowing them away mid-fall. This appears to be gone, unless it's hidden behind an upgrade? I'm also always running out of ammunition, I think i'm playing the game wrong. I have no idea how the upgrade system works because the map / upgrade menus are so loving bad. Also the map runs at like 13FPS for some reason. I'm really trying to be positive about this game but Christ...
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Nuts and Gum posted:I Played JC3 on PC with KB/M, and now after playing on the console it's obvious they optimized it for this input. I remember in 3 when you latched onto someone and zoomed in to kick, they would go flying and give you a shot at blowing them away mid-fall. This appears to be gone, unless it's hidden behind an upgrade? I'm also always running out of ammunition, I think i'm playing the game wrong. How far they get kicked is based on distance traveled and angle you connect at. If you are going down at them it just hurls them into the ground but if you come uphill or off an edge they still go flying.
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So I tried switching the LOD factor between very high and low, and gently caress if I can tell the difference. Even took screen shots between the two then flipped back and forth rapidly and I couldn't see anything different. Also apparently my PC can't tell the difference either because the framerate stays the same. It sure looks to me like the LOD Factor setting does nothing.
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It's clear something has gone terribly wrong with the build they've released because there's no way this game intentionally looks so bad in the areas where it's noticeable. Most of the time the game looks okay to decent but when you get to certain areas it turns into a mushy mess that would've embarrassed a PS1. Texture quality is low across the board - it's fine from a distance but garbage up close. The new toys are a shitload of fun to play with and it lets you get right into the action which is great, but they're gonna have to release a patch ASAP for the graphics because the negative press they're gonna receive will hit them like a ton of bricks. Enemies are still bulletsponges to everything but headshots but this has been the case in the series up til now so I'm not really surprised by that. E: Yeah, I'm gonna hold off playing this until I hear about a patch. I'm not gonna refund it because from what I played I genuinely had fun and got a laugh out of the dumb poo poo I could do, but goddamn do those graphical issues really suck the joy out of it. Looking at this game is hard. Songbearer fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Dec 5, 2018 |
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Songbearer posted:It's clear something has gone terribly wrong with the build they've released because there's no way this game intentionally looks so bad in the areas where it's noticeable. Most of the time the game looks okay to decent but when you get to certain areas it turns into a mushy mess that would've embarrassed a PS1. Texture quality is low across the board - it's fine from a distance but garbage up close. The new toys are a shitload of fun to play with and it lets you get right into the action which is great, but they're gonna have to release a patch ASAP for the graphics because the negative press they're gonna receive will hit them like a ton of bricks. Enemies are still bulletsponges to everything but headshots but this has been the case in the series up til now so I'm not really surprised by that. The textures aren't universally bad though. Some are very high quality and some look like pilot wings for the snes.
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Performance is smooth on 2560*1440 all maxed between 95-125 fps, depending on the action and area. But the graphics look indeed like a 2008 game in some places. Really disappointing. I still enjoy the chaos and explosions and fooling around with the grappling stuff, it is where the game still shines. But right now I need to play some more hours before I can or cannot recommend this as a fullprice buy.
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Songbearer posted:It's clear something has gone terribly wrong with the build they've released because there's no way this game intentionally looks so bad in the areas where it's noticeable. Most of the time the game looks okay to decent but when you get to certain areas it turns into a mushy mess that would've embarrassed a PS1. Texture quality is low across the board - it's fine from a distance but garbage up close. The new toys are a shitload of fun to play with and it lets you get right into the action which is great, but they're gonna have to release a patch ASAP for the graphics because the negative press they're gonna receive will hit them like a ton of bricks. Enemies are still bulletsponges to everything but headshots but this has been the case in the series up til now so I'm not really surprised by that. Maybe it's just my system but the sound seems way off as well. Rico doesn't have footsteps and the grappling hook doesn't make noticeable noise half of the time. Oh well, it's refunded and I'll pick it up in a month or so at $40 or less. Maybe they'll have a LOD patch by then.
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Inzombiac posted:Maybe it's just my system but the sound seems way off as well. What are your specs, because the minimum specs are very high
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So, uh, in the PC version... Where the gently caress is the mouse sensitivity setting?
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Combat Pretzel posted:So, uh, in the PC version... Where the gently caress is the mouse sensitivity setting? Camera Sensitivity is under Gameplay. It starts at 80 and goes to 100. It doesn't do anything, near as I can tell. I have to keep lifting my mouse to look around.
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Byolante posted:What are your specs, because the minimum specs are very high i5 4570, 16GB DDR3, GTX 970. I can run everything modern at high/ultra settings just fine. It's just the same issues loads of other people are having. There may be $60 worth of meat in there but the presentation is so bad that I don't care to find out right now. I still have a Deus Ex game to play and Smash is on Friday. It's a shame because it's the type of game I love the most. They never really patched the issues out of JC3 so I'm not crazy optimistic about this.
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Songbearer posted:Camera Sensitivity is under Gameplay. It starts at 80 and goes to 100. That's another thing. I don't think its possible to play this via KB/Mouse unless you also have the ability to set custom DPI levels, since the max sensitivity level is still way below default of a normal game.
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Byolante posted:How far they get kicked is based on distance traveled and angle you connect at. If you are going down at them it just hurls them into the ground but if you come uphill or off an edge they still go flying. Oh! That actually makes a lot of sense 
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Also, they should have gotten the voice actor from JC3. --edit: Wow this game does not look nice. If it's the same team as JC3, how did they gently caress that up? --edit: Also, why the hell are the cutscenes prerendered? The previous game just did it fine in-engine. --edit: Seems like only the initial one on the bridge is. Also, not near the bridge, things look somewhat better. Combat Pretzel fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Dec 5, 2018 |
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So have we heard anything from the devs? Anything at all???
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I have the follow mod, hover mod and medium balloon power set currently, I have a gaggle of oil drums following me that I can just use a retractor tether to hurl at people. Time to pretend im a jedi.
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Shinjobi posted:So have we heard anything from the devs? Anything at all??? Nuts and Gum posted:The cutscenes feel like they forgot to decompress the xvid video because im feeling like this will be 50-60% off on christmas
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Okay... Real question. What could have changed with the game from yesterday to today if my PC hasn't downloaded any patches for the game? I played for 4 and half or 5 hours yesterday / last night and it ran great, other than the few hiccups I mentioned, now it runs like complete poo poo. Hitches up for 30 seconds plus multiple times. I checked and steam didn't do an update, and all my drivers are the same. Any thoughts? I am thinking it has to do with the servers coming online for the records or whatever, but IDK.
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That reminds me of an old problem with leaderboards for JC3. I think it will let you disable that stuff in the settings, give that a shot.
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buglord posted:man I really hope this is all a fluke and there's some heavy day 1 patches queued up. I think (or more accurately I hope) this is just some crazy fluke because I've been watching videos of pre-release gameplay that looked great, or at the very least functional. That's what's so crazy about this - the gameplay I've seen in the betas (which from what I understood were basically fully-functional and only lacked story stuff) looked pretty smooth, so what the hell happened!?
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loving around in the open world with just the balloons and basic tether (Holding off the story missions until they fix this stuff) and I've done a ton of things that made me laugh out loud. Abuse the umbrellas and utility vehicles like diggers a bunch and the physics are guaranteed to do something wild and unpredictable. This'll be a great game for compilations but if they can't get their poo poo together it's going to be ignored and forgotten. I'd say it's a shame but seriously, how could they release a game this way?
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Dec 5, 2018 03:31
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Do the director scene to get the boosters. You can get real wacky real quick
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FruitNYogurtParfait posted:i crashed on the opening mission 3 times and that mission is boring as HELL Me too. 1080, gpu infinite loop.
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Shinjobi posted:So have we heard anything from the devs? Anything at all??? don't hold your breath, I remember thinking they would fix the framerate for JC3 on PS4 and all they did was make it loving worse with every patch. Whoever the "b-team" is at Avalanche, they loving suck rear end
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Merrill Grinch posted:Check this poo poo out on my PS Pro (ie: it's not my settings or my drivers, it's the game) Bold choice using
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Kibayasu posted:That’s probably a bit strong but it was way better than it had any right to be. Yeah okay that's fair. The sound of that shotgun through my subwoofer still brings a smile to my face, though.
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