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FrozenVent posted:The airline industry is proving every quarter that nobody will pay extra for anything unless they have to. DEATH TO CONCUR ALLHU AKBAR
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slidebite posted:True enough, but alternatively how about an adult only flight where each seat costs 5-10% more than a "regular" flight but you are assured to not have crying children. You’d need to get all the fare comparison websites onboard first. ^^^concur is as bad as your company’s rules
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hobbesmaster posted:^^^concur is as bad as your company’s rules The only people who say their company’s rules are good are the people who make the rules. They don’t travel.
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Dr_Strangelove posted:DEATH TO CONCUR ALLHU AKBAR
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Dr_Strangelove posted:DEATH TO CONCUR ALLHU AKBAR The above is not an emptyquote. I am attempting to attach a receipt image. PainterofCrap fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Dec 4, 2018 |
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My podcast the other day was "proud to be sponsored by Concur" and I nearly reflexively turned it off. Using Concur is like getting up in the middle of the night and stepping in a puddle of fresh dog pee in the living room.
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charliemonster42 posted:Using Concur is like getting up in the middle of the night and stepping in a puddle of fresh dog pee in the living room. "Well, this sucks, but I definitely know how it could be worse?"
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FrozenVent posted:The only people who say their company’s rules are good are the people who make the rules. Eh, I'm at 65% travel and we have fairly sane rules for the most part. For flights it's cheapest fair + $300, within the big three. Jetblue, Southwest and the three ULCCs show up but they are only to be used as last resorts because of the lack of interline agreements. BE fares are blocked from the search as well. Business for transoceanic flights. I know I can pick the MCE seats due to status. For our people who don't travel that much, I believe they are allowed to pick it for transcon flights. For hotels, anything over $300 a night needs manager sign off. Rental cars are pick intermediate for either National, Enterprise, or Avis. The only thing that's wonky is the Amex travel agency that actually books the tickets will freak the gently caress out if you get upgraded. Their systems can't tell the difference between an upgrade or a cancelled flight. So we get an email to contact them every time we get an upgrade. We just ignore it and continue on. Groda posted:Apparently Concur is an SAP product. They haven't really hosed it up yet. Honestly over the last two years it's gotten a bit better. They started doing integrations with various companies for receipts. So for Hilton, my hotel receipt gets connected to the stay and automatically uploaded. The itemization mostly works. Parking fees and the lobby stores still need a bit of fiddling with. But it does a much better job of stays with multiple room rates now. I don't need to have a random line of "Roomrate change" anymore. The National intergration could be so much better if it could handle tolls. The two previous systems I am used to is a sheet with a bunch of receipts stapled to it, and system that was designed in house, so Concur didn't have far to go to be better.
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Man, the comments on these tweets are gold. https://twitter.com/rawlimark/status/1069659740886716418 
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Thomamelas posted:Eh, I'm at 65% travel and we have fairly sane rules for the most part. For flights it's cheapest fair + $300, within the big three. Jetblue, Southwest and the three ULCCs show up but they are only to be used as last resorts because of the lack of interline agreements. BE fares are blocked from the search as well. Business for transoceanic flights. I know I can pick the MCE seats due to status. For our people who don't travel that much, I believe they are allowed to pick it for transcon flights. For hotels, anything over $300 a night needs manager sign off. Rental cars are pick intermediate for either National, Enterprise, or Avis. I find it pretty decent as well. Supposedly "cheapest" fare but if you pick something that's not the cheapest you just have to provide a generic bullshit excuse from a dropdown menu ("Excessively prolongs travel" or "does not meet business objectives" are good), business for international, hotels from a list of corporate-preferred hotels but the system just tells you which ones they are, it doesn't prevent you from picking other hotels (again, bullshit excuse menu). I don't have to show receipts unless a transaction is over $75, and while that used to be a pain in the rear end the expense software we're using now makes uploading them really easy, and it also automatically imports your card transactions.
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There is clearly issues with Finance departments writing rules they won't have to live by. And there are issues with the people writing the rules assuming that business travel is the same as vacation travel. But you can find companies that don't suck.
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Thomamelas posted:There is clearly issues with Finance departments writing rules they won't have to live by. And there are issues with the people writing the rules assuming that business travel is the same as vacation travel. But you can find companies that don't suck.
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In my entire career, I’ve managed to expense like three expenses without receipt. Usually sub $15 taxi receipts and I had to fight for them.
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FrozenVent posted:In my entire career, I’ve managed to expense like three expenses without receipt. In theory I don't need receipts for under $10 but I usually just use the Concur app to attach them. But I've had a couple of times where I've had expenses in the $60+ range without a receipt. Fiance sends me a message not to do it again and approves my expense report. As long as we aren't making a habit of it, they will let it slide. I mean I know I work for a weird company. They pay expenses twice a week on Wednesdays and Fridays. I've not found another company that does this.
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I've never had problems with expenses. My trick is to get fast food for meals; nobody ever raises a fuss over that. I've never felt comfortable not minimizing the cost to the company in any case. What blows my mind is when people get alcohol with dinner and try to expense it, then get mad when the accountants say no. Obviously you're not getting that paid for. Mortabis fucked around with this message at 00:32 on Dec 5, 2018 |
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Mortabis posted:Obviously you're not getting that paid for. Are you in sales?
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who the gently caress's company has a no alcohol expense policy barbaric
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Mortabis posted:I've never had problems with expenses. My trick is to get fast food for meals; nobody ever raises a fuss over that. I've never felt comfortable not minimizing the cost to the company in any case. Not with that attitude.
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Mortabis posted:I've never had problems with expenses. My trick is to get fast food for meals; nobody ever raises a fuss over that. I've never felt comfortable not minimizing the cost to the company in any case.
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Next he's gonna tell us he brings his own pens and pencils to work to save the company a dollar, like a good little corporate slave should
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I remember Concur, it really did suck. I remember finding out my company didn't pay for lunch when working offsite. WTF giant financial company?
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No expensing alcohol? What’s next? You’re only allowed to eat Soylent®?
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Platystemon posted:No expensing alcohol? Buy all your food at gas stations so that concur thinks it's gas, expense as gas, reap those sweet sweet per diem checks.
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Mortabis posted:I've never had problems with expenses. My trick is to get fast food for meals; nobody ever raises a fuss over that. I've never felt comfortable not minimizing the cost to the company in any case. You wouldn’t believe the poo poo I’ve expensed. to make it a little AI related I’m not sure how I’m supposed to get a receipt for the tip I gave to get the driver to drop us on the ramp next to the plane vs outside the FBO but getting that reimbursed was no problem. sellouts fucked around with this message at 02:10 on Dec 5, 2018 |
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Let me tell you about the time I took 4 clients to lunch..... a lunch which ended around 11pm and a 4-$figure bill. We have an unwritten rule in my office. You can expense 3 drinks of your consumption for a solo travelling dinner no problem or questions asked. Least that can be expected if you are not able to be at home because of work. After that, it's just sort of a courtesy to close your tab. If you are entertaining, use your judgement.
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slidebite posted:Let me tell you about the time I took 4 clients to lunch..... a lunch which ended around 11pm and a 4-$figure bill. There used to be a competition to see who could get the 'take a prospective job candidate out to lunch' where I used to work and see who could get the highest bill without being unreasonable. Usually it was in the 60-80 dollar range at a somewhat upscale place downtown, usually the interviewee wouldn't order more than a sandwich and you got a 3 course meal. Someone obviously missed the 'reasonable' part and took a loving interveiwee to Ruth's Chris and tried to expense like a $250 lunch for two people. We weren't allowed to do that anymore.
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FrozenVent posted:In my entire career, I’ve managed to expense like three expenses without receipt. When I went to Poland for two weeks we had to ask every bartender and waiter for a receipt and they looked at us like they had 3 heads. Some of them wrote the bill (as just an amount in zloty) on a letterhead for us. Eating (and drinking, lol Mortabis) at your hotel is easier but gets boring and the fare isn't usually as good as outside.
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Allah help you if you improperly submit an expense report to Al Qaeda.
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I had to spend a week in Los Angeles for work, and while my hotel was a fair drive from the airport, my office wasn't far from the hotel. However, I also drove down to San Diego to visit USS Midway and visited an air museum, and those trips probably accounted for about 90% of the mileage on the rental car. I offered to try to figure out how much of the mileage was personal and allocate the fuel costs that way but my company said not to worry, so I got company-funded aeronautical insanity! 
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:who the gently caress's company has a no alcohol expense policy Healthcare
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In my department, the current WTF expense record holder is at ~$3500. For a bar tab. He was at our headquarters in Denmark for a company gathering and he went to go out drinking with some coworkers. He started a tab and then some more coworkers showed up and next thing he knows he's handed a massive bar tab. Finance paid it. They grumbled and were pissy but a director signed off on it retroactively. So they paid it. And the director gave him a lecture about it.
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I’ve got two good ones. Same small company. On my first day, which happened to coincide with the annual holiday party at a casino, my new boss told me to buy shots for a huge group. I didn’t even have a corporate Amex yet, so I charged about $400 worth of booze to my personal card and then submitted the most out of policy report ever: not on a Corp card, didn’t have names of everyone served, literally entirely booze, and I had to submit it on paper as I didn’t have access to the expense system for a few weeks. Apparently this was a common thing done to higher paid new hires and finance got a chuckle out of it. Second was down in Australia, I was there for a client meeting but was asked to entertain a prospect. Mid-20s guy playing CEO with his parents grocery chain. I let him pick the places, and we proceeded to have a $2200 lunch with four people, and a $3100 dinner with five. Dude never bought anything from us. (I was in services/delivery, not sales). I put the VP’s name who told me to take him out everywhere on the expense report. Never heard a word about it, but when I expensed a premium economy seat as to not be in a middle seat all the way in the back on a 14 hour flight it got rejected lol
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I feel fortunate that my company doesn't seem to be too insanely strict with travel. I was stuck in India a bit back because of a cancelled flight that definitely wasn't going to be leaving for days and they didn't question me spending $6400 on a new ticket back in business. I think I would have died otherwise.
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Thomamelas posted:In my department, the current WTF expense record holder is at ~$3500. For a bar tab. He was at our headquarters in Denmark for a company gathering and he went to go out drinking with some coworkers. He started a tab and then some more coworkers showed up and next thing he knows he's handed a massive bar tab. Finance paid it. They grumbled and were pissy but a director signed off on it retroactively. So they paid it. And the director gave him a lecture about it. Last year a co-worker of mine and myself took a couple clients to Edmonton for an oilers game and we ate at the steakhouse attached to the arena. A director joined us for dinner before the game and we all had a great time. After the game we returned to the steakhouse, our director was still there, 3 or so hours later. So we did the only appropriate thing and rejoined him and they started bringing out the expensive scotch and poo poo. I have no idea what that tab cost, but I think some of the scotch they were drinking was pushing $100/ounce.
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I have been told that I personally contributed $700 to an open bar tab. That was almost two bottle's worth of Macallan 25 and Scapa 14; mostly the Scapa - goddamn they're good. I never got any grief about it because I'm morally certain that the (Australian) CFO's name was attached to the line item for the security golf cart that ended up in the pool. That's the same CFO that made the most morale improving move I've ever see anyone in a leadership position ever attempt. He was the replacement for both the CFO that got laid off when they lost Levi's as an account when they got broke (60% of the office was laid off), and for the guy who wrangled a relocation contract with no penalty clause, and bailed on us the day before he was supposed to start after moving from LA to SF. to work for a competitor. So we took the Aussie CFO out to the bar his first week. He picked up a roughly $300 tab and announced that he'd approve a similar expense report, any time, no questions asked, for anyone. Morale in the office improved dramatically. I haven't seen the like since. It's a drat shame he a) works in advertising and b) moved to LA because I'd work for that motherfucker over anything. mllaneza fucked around with this message at 07:10 on Dec 5, 2018 |
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Man, Accounting Insanity really gets you guys going.
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Ola posted:Man, Accounting Insanity really gets you guys going. Dolla dolla bill y'all.
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Ola posted:Man, Accounting Insanity really gets you guys going. I know a guy who's squadron (about 200 people) got back from deployment about 6 weeks ago and their vouchers are still bouncing around the system. My first deployment it took almost 5 months and a phone call from a general to someone in Wyoming for us to get paid. The discussion in this thread sounds completely made up to me. I can't even wrap my brain around the claims in here.
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