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Don Dongington posted:Posting for the second time *GODDDDDD Full disclosure, I only skimmed, but which part covers him wanting to block VPNs? 'site blocking legislation' to me means forcing ISPs to update their DNS to redirect/block known piracy websites from resolving. What else does the legislation do wrt VPNs?
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hooman posted:Thanks. Oh yeah that's right goddamnit, gently caress goons.
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Ranter posted:Full disclosure, I only skimmed, but which part covers him wanting to block VPNs? 'site blocking legislation' to me means forcing ISPs to update their DNS to redirect/block known piracy websites from resolving. What else does the legislation do wrt VPNs? The legislation differs from the current legislation in that the current legislation allows them to block websites that are directly involved in the provision of pirate materials, e.g. The Pirate Bay, and IsoHunt, wheras the new legislation allows them to order ISPs to block websites that are INDIRECTLY involved in the provision of pirate material. Like VPN services, for instance.
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A website isn't a VPN though. I don't understand. Do you mean the website that the VPN service uses to sell you the VPN will be blocked?
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cohsae posted:I'd just like if I could find a landlord that would let me put in a hook to hang a bloody picture, or put some herbs/veges in. Should have moved into my old place, there were maybe up to a dozen hooks scattered all over the place seemingly randomly. Of course when we moved out they said "what's up with all these hooks, we never said you could put these in" and I just pointed out that you can clearly see on the hooks remnants of the old paint job and they shut up.
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Ranter posted:A website isn't a VPN though. I don't understand. Do you mean the website that the VPN service uses to sell you the VPN will be blocked? If assume that what they would be doing. Hit the firewall a few times in China so far, basically if I had it set up before entering it works fine but many devices I've set up with the VPN app inside have been hit and miss if they can make the initial connection to login. I'd assume though they wouldn't be doing anything more involved than blocking the IP addresses as they currently do so maybe Google DNS will be able to bypass it anyway?
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The website is only needed to obtain the service. After that you're good to go. Unless I've misunderstood something about this proposed law. Regarding China/other services trying to block VPNs like Netflix/Hulu; my understanding is that it's a game of cat and mouse where the bad actor bans known IP addresses that VPN services pipe their data through, then the VPN service adds new IPs to get around it, rinse and repeat. Bald Stalin fucked around with this message at 04:35 on Dec 5, 2018 |
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Ranter posted:The website is only needed to obtain the service. After that you're good to go. Unless I've misunderstood something about this proposed law. Running through the hotel wifi I was able to watch Netflix and use Google search for the first night without a VPN however the next morning it wouldn't work at all. So the solution I've found is IPVanish app but the only way I could get the initial login was to tether to my phone with VPN on and do the first login that way then I could jump into hotel wifi and tunnel out. Western hotel chain so maybe they have a little more leeway? Like you said seems to be a bit of cat and mouse.
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Forgive my relative ignorance on the subject; but isn’t the point of the changes labor pushed to the encryption bill that companies couldn’t be forced to do anything that would amount to a systemic vulnerability? ie they can be forced to help break into a specific persons communications but they can’t be forced to do anything that would introduce a vulnerability into the system as a whole? And would that not basically create a situation where Apple or whatnot just says ‘whelp sorry there’s nothing we can do’
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Reclines Obesily posted:#BTS? k-pop will be the next african gangs drat Koreans coming over here taking honest jobs from hard working former neighbours cast members.
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Dimebag posted:drat Koreans coming over here taking honest jobs from hard working FTFY
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JBP posted:Just shows how loving boring Twitter is and what kind of person has an account if qanda is that high on the tags. I mean q&a is a weekly thing while libspill is bi-monthly at best.
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The Lord Bude posted:Forgive my relative ignorance on the subject; but isn’t the point of the changes labor pushed to the encryption bill that companies couldn’t be forced to do anything that would amount to a systemic vulnerability? ie they can be forced to help break into a specific persons communications but they can’t be forced to do anything that would introduce a vulnerability into the system as a whole? And would that not basically create a situation where Apple or whatnot just says ‘whelp sorry there’s nothing we can do’ This and similar stuff keeps popping up, so I'll try to explain it to the best of my (limited) ability. 1) When a cryptographic system is described as secure, this means that there is no way for anyone to feasibly* read the encrypted data without the key. 2) Any subsystem which allows the creator of the cryptosystem (or someone designated by them) to read the encrypyted data without the key is "a backdoor". 3) When a cryptosystem has a backdoor, the system is not secure because the data can feasibly (even easily!) be read without the key**. So The addition of a backdoor, by definition, introduces a vulnerability into the system as a whole because now someone (anyone with access to the backdoor) can feasibly (easily, even) read the encrypted data without the key. It is, by definition, impossible for a secure system to contain a backdoor. It is also, by definition, impossible to have a system which is both secure and which "a specific persons communications can be accessed" without the key, because that necessitates the existence of a backdoor. So either the law does nothing at all, or it does the incredibly scary thing because the people who think they've watered it down have no loving idea what they're talking about. I guarantee it'll be the latter. ...and it shouldn't matter which side of politics you're on here, because if you somehow think it's OK because your side is the one doing it, you're saying "I trust all future governments not to gently caress this up, abuse it, or both" and also "I am absolutely positive that no bad actor outside the government will ever get their hands on this" and fuckin lol in both cases, for a while you could get into someone else's vicroads data by changing the customer number in the browser's address bar, and the government response was to send the cops to arrest the guy that reported it to them. *ie, with current technology, there is no way for anyone to read the encrypted data in a timeframe where it would matter. So something that is known to be able to be cracked, but the crack will take 500+ years with existing computers counts as "secure". Something that could be cracked in a minute or two if only you had a computer the size of the universe counts as secure. ** That the somebody who wants to read the encrypted data without the key promises not to do so unless they think it's important is entirely irrelevant. Uh, I mean, if you have done nothing wrong then you have nothing to hide. Elector_Nerdlingen fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Dec 5, 2018 |
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AlphaDog posted:This and similar stuff keeps popping up, so I'll try to explain it to the best of my (limited) ability. I completely agree with you that backdoors are bad and should not be legally mandated; but my interpretation of what the act is doing leans towards the ‘the law does nothing’ approach. If a company cannot be mandated to put a vulnerability into their product then the law is fairly useless. My thinking is that rather than attempt to compromise the encryption itself; the law will rather be used to plant malware of some kind onto specific devices; thus compromising a device not a service.
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The Lord Bude posted:I completely agree with you that backdoors are bad and should not be legally mandated; but my interpretation of what the act is doing leans towards the ‘the law does nothing’ approach. If a company cannot be mandated to put a vulnerability into their product then the law is fairly useless. My thinking is that rather than attempt to compromise the encryption itself; the law will rather be used to plant malware of some kind onto specific devices; thus compromising a device not a service. Maybe Apple or Google wouldn't be strongarmed but the developers making every flash in the pan private chat for teenagers will probably crack.
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The Lord Bude posted:I completely agree with you that backdoors are bad and should not be legally mandated; but my interpretation of what the act is doing leans towards the ‘the law does nothing’ approach. If a company cannot be mandated to put a vulnerability into their product then the law is fairly useless. My thinking is that rather than attempt to compromise the encryption itself; the law will rather be used to plant malware of some kind onto specific devices; thus compromising a device not a service. ...which could be done with existing wiretap laws. e: wait, if it's the company being made to provide the encryption-bypassing malware then it's functionally equivalent to a backdoor in the crypto and has all the same problems.
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Won't terrorists just go back to cold war basics like using one-time pads and such? So even if the encryption is broken, it's still not a message that can be retrieved?
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Won't terrorists just go back to cold war basics like using one-time pads and such? It's just to win votes it doesn't have to do anything.
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quote:In 2007, 86% of voters were satisfied with Australia’s democracy, but that figure dropped to 72% by 2010 (where it plateaued for three years) and then went into freefall from 2013, plummeting from 72% to 41% between 2013 and 2018. 
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Do we have figures on the numbers of informal votes in the Vic election? I was looking at one of the districts and it seemed pretty big. I'd be interested to see if it's trending up or down - I think there were some changes to the way you could fill in a ballot this time, but I don't remember if that was last election or not
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im alan jones posted:if you can’t beat em, supress em Can't wait for those Centre Alliance pricks to support this.
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SMILLENNIALSMILLEN posted:https://twitter.com/Paul_Karp/status/1070192573749223424?s=19 GetUp explicitly targeted Dutton’s seat and are also pretty active at any and all by-elections. Libs have tried to rake them over the coals for this but there’s no law against pointing out what pieces of poo poo they are
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Voter ID laws would suck. But you get your drivers license out anyway to get your name checked off the roll.
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drunkill posted:Voter ID laws would suck. No you don't. That is literally what this law would force you to do. What is the plan for those without photo ID? hidys fucked around with this message at 09:17 on Dec 5, 2018 |
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