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Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010
The alternate ending to TLJ that someone here in one of these threads proposed was so loving good that I'm going to find it hard to get invested in any other Star Wars films going forward, since they're not the ones that poster thought up.

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cuntman.net
Mar 1, 2013

Teek posted:

Spoilers from MakingStarWars and StarWarsNewsNet and a guy on reddit in the advertising industry who has provided spoilers for upcoming MCU and SW movies in the past:

https://makingstarwars.net/2018/11/does-kylo-ren-wear-a-helmet-and-does-bb-8-get-a-new-sidekick-in-star-wars-episode-ix/
https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2018/12/episode-ix-rumors-timeline.html

    * Episode 9 takes place around a year after TLJ
    * Kylo Ren reforged his mask, it's now bonded with a red crystalline material. (something from Crait maybe?)
    * Rey rebuilt Anakin's lightsaber, it's now a black metal color
    * BB8 has a new companion, a smaller bull horn looking droid called D.O.
    * The Knights of Ren will finally appear in some form.

https://twitter.com/kenjennings/status/952721450749673472?lang=en

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Supreme Leader Kylo Ren (feat. Rilo Kiley)

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013

Teek posted:

Spoilers from MakingStarWars and StarWarsNewsNet and a guy on reddit in the advertising industry who has provided spoilers for upcoming MCU and SW movies in the past:

https://makingstarwars.net/2018/11/does-kylo-ren-wear-a-helmet-and-does-bb-8-get-a-new-sidekick-in-star-wars-episode-ix/
https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2018/12/episode-ix-rumors-timeline.html

    * Episode 9 takes place around a year after TLJ
    * Kylo Ren reforged his mask, it's now bonded with a red crystalline material. (something from Crait maybe?)
    * Rey rebuilt Anakin's lightsaber, it's now a black metal color
    * BB8 has a new companion, a smaller bull horn looking droid called D.O.
    * The Knights of Ren will finally appear in some form.

Kylo in a new mask.It might fit well. He has a throne now, so obviously, he would want a crown and a new mask is like a crown.

It's amusing that everyone seems to latch onto Kylo's news. No one cares about the other things.
I'm still hoping for Rey to get a double bladed saber as an extension of her staff training.

Captain Jesus
Feb 26, 2009

What's wrong with you? You don't even have your beer goggles on!!

Darth TNT posted:

I'm still hoping for Rey to get a double bladed saber as an extension of her staff training.

I was thinking they were gonna go with that too but they probably won't because it might remind people of the prequels and they don't want that.

Dr.Radical
Apr 3, 2011

Captain Jesus posted:

I was thinking they were gonna go with that too but they probably won't because it might remind people of the prequels and they don't want that.

Not me. I want a movie where basically everyone is Jar Jar.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink

Snowman_McK posted:

The alternate ending to TLJ that someone here in one of these threads proposed was so loving good that I'm going to find it hard to get invested in any other Star Wars films going forward, since they're not the ones that poster thought up.

Which one was that?

Preston Waters
May 21, 2010

by VideoGames

Schwarzwald posted:

Which one was that?

The one where the talking pizza roll shows up

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Schwarzwald posted:

Which one was that?

Rey and Kylo kiss each other on the lips

Snowman_McK
Jan 31, 2010

Schwarzwald posted:

Which one was that?

The industrialists from the Casino planet show up and just give the rebels a big, fancy new fleet. They say that, if the rebels ever really lose, they won't be able to sell as much poo poo to the First Order. The rebels win the ensuing battle against the First Order, but it's a hollow victory.

I liked the bold steps that TLJ took and would have liked them to make a few more.


General Dog posted:

Finn and Poe kiss each other on the lips

:colbert:

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Gonz posted:

Supreme Leader Kylo Ren (feat. Rilo Kiley)

Wow, please tell me how long you've been sitting on that non-sequitur.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
https://twitter.com/HamillHimself/status/1069996443199520768

Huge if true.

Ingmar terdman
Jul 24, 2006

IXistenZ

Rando
Mar 11, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Polo-Rican
Jul 4, 2004

emptyquote my posts or die
lol that Disney was only able to make 2 movies out of a trilogy before running out of steam completely.

I really don't see any way to effectively wrap up this trilogy... Unironically, the best thing they could do is say "uhhh, The Last Jedi was the end" and start something new.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I'm legitimately surprised they haven't announced that Rian Johnson's trilogy is cancelled yet because I'm still reasonably sure - not 100% guaranteed certain, but reasonably sure - that they will do that. Oh, well. I am probably making too early a guess; if it happens, it will probably happen next year. I imagine Disney (not Lucasfilm, obviously) will make a decision once they've had an opportunity to gauge the response to the first Episode IX trailer.

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 215 days!

Polo-Rican posted:

lol that Disney was only able to make 2 movies out of a trilogy before running out of steam completely.

I really don't see any way to effectively wrap up this trilogy... Unironically, the best thing they could do is say "uhhh, The Last Jedi was the end" and start something new.

Are you seriously complaining that the hype train on IX isn't running hard enough?

Neo Rasa
Mar 8, 2007
Everyone should play DUKE games.

:dukedog:

Wheat Loaf posted:

I'm legitimately surprised they haven't announced that Rian Johnson's trilogy is cancelled yet because I'm still reasonably sure - not 100% guaranteed certain, but reasonably sure - that they will do that. Oh, well. I am probably making too early a guess; if it happens, it will probably happen next year. I imagine Disney (not Lucasfilm, obviously) will make a decision once they've had an opportunity to gauge the response to the first Episode IX trailer.

Weren't they not even clear on whether or not his trilogy was meant to be a big deal EPISODES X/VI/XII thing or if it was just, like, three Star Wars movies from him or something? After how Solo performed I think that's a more important detail than we all thought it was previously.

I do wonder what the plan even is for Episode IX. Like they the past two movies made huge efforts to reestablish the galactic order as a huge empire vs. plucky under supplied rebels. And then IX ended on such a note that like I wouldn't even mind if they just did a time jump. Same for whatever movies they do next I wouldn't mind if they just straight up jumped ahead thirty years or something. I like both Finn and Rey but Poe Dameron in Last Jedi was just dumb as hell.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Neo Rasa posted:

Weren't they not even clear on whether or not his trilogy was meant to be a big deal EPISODES X/VI/XII thing or if it was just, like, three Star Wars movies from him or something? After how Solo performed I think that's a more important detail than we all thought it was previously.

I do wonder what the plan even is for Episode IX. Like they the past two movies made huge efforts to reestablish the galactic order as a huge empire vs. plucky under supplied rebels. And then IX ended on such a note that like I wouldn't even mind if they just did a time jump. Same for whatever movies they do next I wouldn't mind if they just straight up jumped ahead thirty years or something. I like both Finn and Rey but Poe Dameron in Last Jedi was just dumb as hell.

Johnson's movies are not supposed to be Episode number movies, but a trilogy about some thing or era never covered in Star Wars before. No one knows more than that.

Schwarzwald
Jul 27, 2004

Don't Blink
Statements about what Johnson's trilogy would/will be presuppose more structure on Disney's part than I think is warranted.

There's no grand plan being followed here. Decisions about what potential movies will be sold as won't be finalized until the film is actually in theaters, if then.

Schwarzwald fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Dec 6, 2018

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
They should forget about what "counts" and what doesn't after they finish the numbered movies. They should proceed like George Miller did with the last Mad Max movie and present them all as stories and legends about these characters rather than historical records; I think that would be make good sense for Star Wars. Don't allow "canon" to constrain them, basically.

Lucas and Filoni ignored what was "canon" when they were working on the Clone Wars series because they had better ideas. That's the approach Lucasfilm needs to follow now.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Wheat Loaf posted:

They should forget about what "counts" and what doesn't after they finish the numbered movies. They should proceed like George Miller did with the last Mad Max movie and present them all as stories and legends about these characters rather than historical records; I think that would be make good sense for Star Wars. Don't allow "canon" to constrain them, basically.

Lucas and Filoni ignored what was "canon" when they were working on the Clone Wars series because they had better ideas. That's the approach Lucasfilm needs to follow now.

I mean, Filoni also brought a lot of things from the EU canon into The Clone Wars, which had the funny side effect of making old some old EU stuff "canon" after the Disney buyout.

These actions led to me hearing the word "Dathomir" in a theatrically released Star Wars movie, which is loving wild to me.

Preston Waters
May 21, 2010

by VideoGames

Wheat Loaf posted:

I'm legitimately surprised they haven't announced that Rian Johnson's trilogy is cancelled yet because I'm still reasonably sure - not 100% guaranteed certain, but reasonably sure - that they will do that. Oh, well. I am probably making too early a guess; if it happens, it will probably happen next year. I imagine Disney (not Lucasfilm, obviously) will make a decision once they've had an opportunity to gauge the response to the first Episode IX trailer.

nah, I guarantee you it's going to be Episodes X-XII

lol if you think they're gonna stop with the sequel trilogy

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 215 days!
I mean, they might reconsider things if IX isn't a huge blockbuster which sells a billion toys.

It's not like fans hating on the latest Star Wars is a new, unheard of thing.

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless

Hodgepodge posted:

I mean, they might reconsider things if IX isn't a huge blockbuster which sells a billion toys.

IX could be a huge blockbuster (it probably won't, but it could) but it won't sell a billion toys just because I think kids are less interested in toys than they were even thre or four years ago. They like Fortnite and Scandinavian YouTubes who squawk about rape and make anti-Semitic jokes. There's no Toys R Us left to sell toys.

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Wheat Loaf posted:

IX could be a huge blockbuster (it probably won't, but it could) but it won't sell a billion toys just because I think kids are less interested in toys than they were even thre or four years ago. They like Fortnite and Scandinavian YouTubes who squawk about rape and make anti-Semitic jokes. There's no Toys R Us left to sell toys.

There's still a Target and a Walmart left to sell toys. Kids run around my neighborhood playing with toys every day.

They also play Fortnite and watch YouTube.

Preston Waters
May 21, 2010

by VideoGames

Wheat Loaf posted:

IX could be a huge blockbuster (it probably won't, but it could) but it won't sell a billion toys just because I think kids are less interested in toys than they were even thre or four years ago. They like Fortnite and Scandinavian YouTubes who squawk about rape and make anti-Semitic jokes. There's no Toys R Us left to sell toys.

Was it the kids who finally gave up toys a few years ago, or was it you?

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Fortnite toys came out recently and they look cooler than the Star Wars toys

Zoran
Aug 19, 2008

I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!
I’m deeply interested in this theory that kids stopped liking toys so much three or four years ago.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

CelticPredator posted:

Fortnite toys came out recently and they look cooler than the Star Wars toys

Fortnite is a better handled narrative than Star Wars right now so checks out

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Does not check out I am afraid.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

CelticPredator posted:

Does not check out I am afraid.

People care about fortnite as an intellectual property which applies to the toys, while Star Wars has no such care

Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
The thing is that very few people actually like Star Wars, they only think they like it.

Corrosion
May 28, 2008

Being on the leash of reacting to Fortnite's embedded marketing doesn't constitute the same thing as whatever better handling of narrative means other than "Has marketing."

Hodgepodge
Jan 29, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 215 days!

Wheat Loaf posted:

IX could be a huge blockbuster (it probably won't, but it could) but it won't sell a billion toys just because I think kids are less interested in toys than they were even thre or four years ago. They like Fortnite and Scandinavian YouTubes who squawk about rape and make anti-Semitic jokes. There's no Toys R Us left to sell toys.

There's still a Toys R Us near me. YouTube has convinced my kid to love Elf on the Shelf and videos made with Jurrassic Park toys. What makes you think a company going out of business is related to the demand for its product? Are you fresh out of business school?

TLJ was the highest grossing film of the year it was released. But some whiney internet fans means IX won't be a huge blockbuster? You need to get offline a bit more, my man.

Hodgepodge fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Dec 6, 2018

cuntman.net
Mar 1, 2013

theres a store just for star wars merchandise at the mall near here. on the other hand it sells other stuff too and there never seems to be a lot of people there so vOv

thrawn527
Mar 27, 2004

Thrawn/Pellaeon
Studying the art of terrorists
To keep you safe

Here in Orlando at Disney Springs (giant outdoor mall on Disney property) there are 2 different stores selling nothing but Star Wars toys, and they’re constantly packed. They both have build your own lightsaber stations that kids run to. They’re pretty fun.

CelticPredator
Oct 11, 2013
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Last time I was there I saw kids dressed as Kylo Ren and Rey and it was cool. Even boys had Rey’s spear.

And this was like, a few days after TLJ came out.

Preston Waters
May 21, 2010

by VideoGames

Hodgepodge posted:

TLJ was the highest grossing film of the year it was released. But some whiney internet fans means IX won't be a huge blockbuster? You need to get offline a bit more, my man.

I also love how literally no one at the time acknowledged that sequels rarely make as much money as the prior film.

I legit think I was the only person repeating this over and over.

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Preston Waters
May 21, 2010

by VideoGames

CelticPredator posted:

Last time I was there I saw kids dressed as Kylo Ren and Rey and it was cool. Even boys had Rey’s spear.

And this was like, a few days after TLJ came out.

It's not a spear. It's a metal rod... thing...

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