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speaking of cook islands: oh noquote:Back in 2015, Facebook had a pickle of a problem. It was time to update the Android version of the Facebook app, and two different groups within Facebook were at odds over what the data grab should be.
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Dec 6, 2018 02:12
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drat this challenge must suck with two short people.
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Dec 6, 2018 02:15
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“Enjoy the flight home. Watch movies.”
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Christian is an absolute shoe-in for a returnees season (if he wants to do it)
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So many episodes have falsely had Christian as the target so this better be the one.
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Dec 6, 2018 02:27
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Shneak posted:So many episodes have falsely had Christian as the target so this better be the one. If he's not out in the next week or two, I don't see him having many friends on the jury.
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Dec 6, 2018 02:31
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InsensitiveSeaBass posted:If he's not out in the next week or two, I don't see him having many friends on the jury. they keep targeting him as a winner threat, so I kind of doubt that Shneak posted:So many episodes have falsely had Christian as the target so this better be the one. he's probably going to play his idol after the blatant cheering against him in the challenge
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Dec 6, 2018 02:36
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Yeah they sure telegraphed things there
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IcePhoenix posted:he's probably going to play his idol after the blatant cheering against him in the challenge e: weird cut to Nick during the Allison talk UltimoDragonQuest fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Dec 6, 2018 |
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Dec 6, 2018 02:38
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lol is gabby's strategy fueled by jealousy?
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How is nobody saying “okay if she’ll do this to Christian, what would she do to me?”
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Disharmony posted:lol is gabby's strategy fueled by jealousy? That's how they edited it at least. Did she not know Christian had a gf?
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Disharmony posted:lol is gabby's strategy fueled by jealousy?
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Loved ones visit always shakes up the game somehow Haha Gabby so sore during the vote reads
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Dec 6, 2018 02:57
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Elizabeth must be so thrilled to finally have someone to hang out with
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Christian is probably hosed without an immunity run but that was a hell of a move.
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Dec 6, 2018 02:58
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That was poetic *chef's kiss*
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Dec 6, 2018 03:00
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Jeez I have no idea what my feelings on Gabby are anymore but that was another pretty dang cool Tribal. So Gabby organizes a blindside and a small subgroup that really are in on the blindside decide to make her the backup and then a one person subgroup of that subgroup tips Christian O_O
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oh also lmao forever at Gabby for thinking she'd crafted a perfect blindside after what they pulled at the immunity challenge
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IcePhoenix posted:oh poo poo that vote reveal Eh, no reason for Davie to stray from the group since he wasn't going to be the target anyway. Ultimately got what he wanted if Christian played the idol anyway
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Oh Christian voted Alison. Weird of Mike and Angelina to take out Gabby who would have been completely neutered after Christian played an idol she didn't know about.
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Shneak posted:Wow so Angelina masterminded Gabby's demise
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Midnightghoul posted:Eh, no reason for Davie to stray from the group since he wasn't going to be the target anyway. Ultimately got what he wanted if Christian played the idol anyway I think it's jury management too. If Christian gets voted out, Davie could claim that he tipped him off because "he didn't want to get rid of a shield" while almost everyone else's vote was based on emotion (Nick, Gabby). If Christian makes F3, he could then say he saved his rear end a bunch of times.
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Dec 6, 2018 03:08
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Hahahaha Hahahahahahahaha This season is terrific
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The Bloop posted:Hahahaha We could see the return of Goliath Strong alliance. Less biblical, more Greek tragedy. The Davids were outnumbered the entire game, fought and struggled and played idols and when they finally managed to gain advantage they threw it away. Binary Logic fucked around with this message at 04:19 on Dec 6, 2018 |
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I feel like the Davids collectively pulled a Zeke. drat, Gabby, you really mucked that up. I GET why she went for it but it really does seem like a prime example of that "Don't make big moves just to make them" thing. The fact that it bit back immediately unlike something like Alec's Natalia movie is just poetic and great tv. Ultimately Gabby was right that she probably needed some big moves and to oust Christian if she wanted to win, but she just didn't have the game position or allies to pull that off and it was dumb/arrogant of her to think she did. Sadly Christian feels a little dead in the water but things are still a little fluid with Allison/Kara and Davie not really feeling the idea of working with Nick/Angelina/Mike. So I don't think he's necessarily dead yet. And Nick's motivations seemed largely about sour grapes and resentment that he got played for once so he could always get over that. I was saying that one of my main things of interest was how Nick reacted to finally being on the wrong side of things and caught pulling something and I wasn't exactly impressed. But Davie impressed me a little bit about taking a step back, not being sore about the move, and trying to figure out his best game position. Also LOL on Angelina bringing up the rice to his mom.
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IcePhoenix posted:Do we know if the final four has a firemaking challenge again or did they ditch that after the reception from the last two seasons?
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Gabby was in a pretty bad spot the last few weeks, so even though this blew up I’m not sure it was a bad idea. The way she went home was really a bad beat (one leaker, and co-conspirators surprisingly making her the backup vote). So let’s pretend the vote had gone through. Take out Christian and she becomes very respected. I feel like she would still have Allison and by extension Kara pretty close after the vote. But that would leave her opposite Nick, Davie, and Angelina. That would make Mike the swing vote, who she might reasonably believe she can get. But do those 4 people let her make f3? And Angelina still might be tempting to bring to the end too. On the other hand, maybe people turn on “Wonder Woman” Allison first, and then Kara is seen as a bigger threat than Gabby, and then she sneaks into the end. And, what better path did she have anyway? Every David beats her, right?
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UltimoDragonQuest posted:"It's here to stay" - Jeff. Rob and Fishbach seemed to think the players know. IDK if they were told before the game but at a minimum they should expect it.
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Vernacular posted:Its kinda something to think about a season like Cook Islands even getting the green light, let alone in today's social climate. I never actually watched it. Was it pretty awkward at times? Just cringing at the thought of Jeff hammering away at the racial theme like he does for the themes of new seasons like David vs Goliath, MvGX, etc. It had awkward moments, but mostly just because it's Survivor. There was some racial ham and poo poo at the beginning, but relatively few cringe moments related to that. I was actually kind of disappointed, I was really expecting to be flipping my lid every episode over bass-ackwards 00s politics, but the premise of it alone is weirder than anything that happened on it. I don't think I'd be good at survivor, but I'd be fun on survivor. Definitely make it at least part ways through but I'm totally ending up on a tribe that is slow to start and gets dominated by the other tribe until they throw a challenge or someone doesn't poo poo for 2 weeks and has to leave. Pinterest Mom posted:speaking of cook islands: oh no Wow, I was wondering for a moment why you shared that but drat, that's a pretty evil move. I wish we could vote him and Facebook off the island. Khanstant fucked around with this message at 06:10 on Dec 6, 2018 |
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I think Gabby aimed for Christian one tribal too soon, but I do think she needed to make her own move in order to be able to win. She should have pressed to vote out Mike or Angelina this tribal, while trying to solidify something with Kara/Alison for the next tribal, but that probably would have been a hard sell.
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Fast Luck posted:Gabby was in a pretty bad spot the last few weeks, so even though this blew up I’m not sure it was a bad idea. I'm very sympathetic to Gabby's decision because, as you said, she was in a real bad game position. Her only real allies were Christian and Allison and Christian was pushing for them to take the easy route and work with the Davids to vote out Allison. But that pretty much puts Gabby back in the same position she would have been last week if she had voted out Allison. Maybe marginally better if she trusted Christian to have her back against Nick and Davie with the sides even, but still basically as the person with the smallest resume and least amount of respect in a Final Four (assuming its the same Final Four scenario and they're planning for that). I just think it was a really bad gamble to work out for Gabby. Like the leakers and backstabbers weren't terribly unexpected considering they were people she just blindsided and had no real trust with. And like, I can understand the desire to do SOMETHING when forced into a corner but that doesn't necessarily make it the right decision. But ultimately I don't know what Gabby should have done because she probably shouldn't have voted Allison either and she probably shouldn't have pushed to vote out Nick/Davie and give the Goliaths the numbers back. She could have pushed for Mike/Kara/Angelina but that probably would have made her protecting Allison a liability. The only real angle I can see is trying to get all the women together but Angelina doesn't seem amenable to that. So it was just a lovely, lovely game position with no obvious good options. So I'm sympathetic. I understand and respect that she felt she had to do something but even if it hadn't gone as bad as humanly possible it seemed really bad odds anyway. Like even if she hadn't been voted out she would have lost Allison from the game and Christian's trust. And as you said, if it had worked at best she's arguably hoping she can hide behind Allison with her new resume while the people she blindsided now have the numbers. It was a bold move but so is jumping without a parachute. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 06:21 on Dec 6, 2018 |
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STAC Goat posted:I'm very sympathetic to Gabby's decision because, as you said, she was in a real bad game position. Her only real allies were Christian and Allison and Christian was pushing for them to take the easy route and work with the Davids to vote out Allison. But that pretty much puts Gabby back in the same position she would have been last week if she had voted out Allison. Maybe marginally better if she trusted Christian to have her back against Nick and Davie with the sides even, but still basically as the person with the smallest resume and least amount of respect in a Final Four (assuming its the same Final Four scenario and they're planning for that). Yeah, it's a hard sell to push the vote away from Alison, but maybe it could have moved to Mike/Angelina except I feel like people are carrying them towards the end as goats. However, I'm just not sure that's the right way to think about them. Maybe it's true separately, but since they are still both around and together they make a screwy little voting bloc that you can't really trust. So I feel like framing it that way might get people to realize that it's best to take out one of them first. However, while I'm sure the Alison/Kara/Gabby bloc would vote that way and might be able to bring in Christian, the only other play who might be willing to vote out one of Mike/Angelina is likely to be Davie. Nick wouldn't want to take out Mike and is probably bringing Angelina along as a goat/vote, plus all four of them seemed like they sort of made a final four alliance while on the reward.
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Yeah, I think Davie is shaky on really wanting that Final Four but he seems savvy enough that he doesn't want to outright betray them. So he tipped off Christian to use his idol and then stuck with the plan and let it work itself out. Which I think was pretty decently well played (and ironically what we gave Alec the credit for doing that he said he absolutely wasn't). For Angelina and Mike it probably makes sense to want to go to the end together as their best bets against each other, and Nick probably assumes he can beat both of them. But I'm not really sure what Davie's path to the end looks like. MAYBE Gabby could have pushed the Mike/Angelina thing but I think it would have just essentially made the Gabby/Allison thing a bigger deal and a bigger threat than a pair of potential goats. So like, every play Gabby had seems like it came with a low probability of helping her game and a high risk of backfiring. So I dunno.
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