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BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

Ccs posted:

Go tend to your Bonfire thread, it's languishing.

Your wish is my delayed shitpost.

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BravestOfTheLamps
Oct 12, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
Lipstick Apathy

This guy writes badly on his blog.

Big Bowie Bonanza
Dec 30, 2007

please tell me where i can date this cute boy
At least he only posts horribly occasionally

Big Bowie Bonanza
Dec 30, 2007

please tell me where i can date this cute boy
new first law book, A Little Hatred, is dropping Sep 2019

https://www.orbitbooks.net/2018/11/28/joe-abercrombie-is-back-with-a-little-hatred/

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Awesome. Looking forward to seeing the interior of the Union again after so long on the outskirts.

Ornamented Death
Jan 25, 2006

Pew pew!

quote:

The chimneys of industry rise over Adua and the world seethes with new opportunities. But old scores run deep as ever.

On the blood-soaked borders of Angland, Leo dan Brock struggles to win fame on the battlefield, and defeat the marauding armies of Stour Nightfall. He hopes for help from the crown. But King Jezal’s son, the feckless Prince Orso, is a man who specialises in disappointments.

Savine dan Glokta – socialite, investor, and daughter of the most feared man in the Union – plans to claw her way to the top of the slag-heap of society by any means necessary. But the slums boil over with a rage that all the money in the world cannot control.

The age of the machine dawns, but the age of magic refuses to die. With the help of the mad hillwoman Isern-i-Phail, Rikke struggles to control the blessing, or the curse, of the Long Eye. Glimpsing the future is one thing, but with the guiding hand of the First of the Magi still pulling the strings, changing it will be quite another…

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Alright, a daughter of Glokta and Ardee. That should be fun, and a good way to address the issue of Ardee not having the ability to do much of anything in the first trilogy.

Old Kentucky Shark
May 25, 2012

If you think you're gonna get sympathy from the shark, well then, you won't.


Ornamented Death posted:

Savine dan Glokta – socialite, investor, and daughter of the most feared man in the Union – plans to claw her way to the top of the slag-heap of society by any means necessary. But the slums boil over with a rage that all the money in the world cannot control.
*GIF-of-all-the-Michael-Jacksons-in-all-the-parallel-universes-eating-all-the-popcorn*

spandexcajun
Feb 28, 2005

Suck the head for a little extra cajun flavor
Fallen Rib
I've read shitloads of fantasy and some westerns so I was well prepped for Joe's first works. I have not really read any Victorian era / Industrial revolution books. Time to hit up some Dicken's I guess :)

spandexcajun fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Dec 5, 2018

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


She won’t really have to claw her way there if she was already born at the top though. Hopefully she gets a great arc but Glokta had a much further way to climb.

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib

Ccs posted:

Alright, a daughter of Glokta and Ardee. That should be fun, and a good way to address the issue of Ardee not having the ability to do much of anything in the first trilogy.

I gather we're all assuming it's probably Jezal's daughter also since Mr Glokta lacks the equipment to make children?

Neurosis fucked around with this message at 07:05 on Dec 5, 2018

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010

Neurosis posted:

I gather we're all assuming it's probably Jezal's daughter also since Mr Glokta lacks the equipment to make children?

Perhaps I missed something here?

xsf421
Feb 17, 2011

Collateral posted:

Perhaps I missed something here?

First law trilogy spoilers:

Glokta got snipped by the Gurkish, he married Ardi at the end of the first trilogy to hide that she was pregnant out of wedlock.

Chamberk
Jan 11, 2004

when there is nothing left to burn you have to set yourself on fire
So I'm taking it as a given that at some point in the new trilogy, Savine and Orso will gently caress.

Destro
Dec 29, 2003

time to wake up
Don't recall that glokta was snipped. Wouldn't make sense to marry and claim the kid if he had.

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010

xsf421 posted:

First law trilogy spoilers:

Glokta got snipped by the Gurkish, he married Ardi at the end of the first trilogy to hide that she was pregnant out of wedlock.

I know what he meant, sorry. I must have missed an important monologue or comment by another actor, about him being no man at all? I do, perhaps mistakenly, remember an internal comment about "at least that still works, not that he would get to use it." Him being a despicable cripple and too proud to see a pro.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

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Collateral posted:

I know what he meant, sorry. I must have missed an important monologue or comment by another actor, about him being no man at all? I do, perhaps mistakenly, remember an internal comment about "at least that still works, not that he would get to use it." Him being a despicable cripple and too proud to see a pro.

I don't immediately see that comment.

Glokta has to piss sitting down, established early in book 1.
Ardee is at least willing to make out with Glokta, late in book 3, although it's not clear how far that goes.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


He might still be able to reproduce but if he only has one kid it’s probably Jezals bastard since they likely wouldn’t abort it

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

Ccs posted:

He might still be able to reproduce but if he only has one kid it’s probably Jezals bastard since they likely wouldn’t abort it

Well yes considering the whole marriage was to protect the kid and Ardee.

Destro
Dec 29, 2003

time to wake up
Everyone would probably know if he was snipped so he wouldn't have any explanation as to how he was able to have a kid so no one would believe him if he said Ardee and Jezal's kid was his.

Neurosis
Jun 10, 2003
Fallen Rib
He makes a lot of allusions to not being able to gently caress anymore and one about having to piss sitting down. It was never outright stated but my impression was always the Gurkish had castrated him.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


Destro posted:

Everyone would probably know if he was snipped so he wouldn't have any explanation as to how he was able to have a kid so no one would believe him if he said Ardee and Jezal's kid was his.

Yes, but considering who Glokta is, nobody would question the story.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Yeah anyone questioning whether the kid was his would probably be found face down by the docks in the river...

Relevant Tangent
Nov 18, 2016

Tangentially Relevant

Destro posted:

Don't recall that glokta was snipped. Wouldn't make sense to marry and claim the kid if he had.

He loved her mother. Also, he wants a legacy and pretending the kid is his lets him have one. It'll be fun to see what a couple of decades of being one of the most powerful men in the world has done to him.

spandexcajun
Feb 28, 2005

Suck the head for a little extra cajun flavor
Fallen Rib
Glokta dick chat:


Collateral posted:

I do, perhaps mistakenly, remember an internal comment about "at least that still works, not that he would get to use it." Him being a despicable cripple and too proud to see a pro.

I remember something like this as well, I don't think he was cut. But the kid POV is probably Jezel's bastard.

ZekeNY
Jun 13, 2013

Probably AFK

spandexcajun posted:

Glokta dick chat:




I remember something like this as well, I don't think he was cut. But the kid POV is probably Jezel's bastard.


I thought I remembered that too. I guess I'll have to re-read the series when the new book's getting close anyway, may as well keep an eye out for that.

Destro
Dec 29, 2003

time to wake up

spandexcajun posted:

Glokta dick chat:




I remember something like this as well, I don't think he was cut. But the kid POV is probably Jezel's bastard.

it's definitely jezals kid

Beastie
Nov 3, 2006

They used to call me tricky-kid, I lived the life they wish they did.


Yeah it's Jezal's. He married Artie just so she could save face. She has no family (in the platonic or the class sense) so he did it as a favor to Collum.

ZekeNY
Jun 13, 2013

Probably AFK

Destro posted:

it's definitely jezals kid

That's interesting, though. If she's Jezal's kid, will she be as generally worthless as he is? Or if she's competent and ruthless, is that a tell that she's Glokta's kid?

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS
Nature vs Nurture is an age-old problem.

ulmont
Sep 15, 2010

IF I EVER MISS VOTING IN AN ELECTION (EVEN AMERICAN IDOL) ,OR HAVE UNPAID PARKING TICKETS, PLEASE TAKE AWAY MY FRANCHISE

Beastie posted:

Yeah it's Jezal's. He married Artie just so she could save face. She has no family (in the platonic or the class sense) so he did it as a favor to Collum.

Also as a gently caress you to the Lord Chamberlain for all but ordering Glotka to kill Ardee.

Destro
Dec 29, 2003

time to wake up

ZekeNY posted:

That's interesting, though. If she's Jezal's kid, will she be as generally worthless as he is? Or if she's competent and ruthless, is that a tell that she's Glokta's kid?

Probably she will turn out fine, is the kid a girl? She's only going to be Jezals kid by blood, but being raised by Glokta and Ardee probably will be competent and ruthless. It's definitely Jezal and Ardees kid though since Glokta never did anything but talk to her until she was pregnant.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


$20 says the new Glokta's flaw is that she's hopelessly sheltered but thinks she's hardcore because her dad keeps backing her up

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


ZekeNY posted:

That's interesting, though. If she's Jezal's kid, will she be as generally worthless as he is? Or if she's competent and ruthless, is that a tell that she's Glokta's kid?

Jezal was mostly worthless because he was spoiled rotten and allowed to get away with everything. He started coming around after his trip with Logen, but ran into Bayaz and got told something along the lines of "Sit down, shut up, sign what we put in front of you. You're useful but not irreplaceable and horrible things can and will happen to you."

lobotomy molo
May 7, 2007

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Ornamented Death posted:

quote:

The chimneys of industry rise over Adua and the world seethes with new opportunities. But old scores run deep as ever.

On the blood-soaked borders of Angland, Leo dan Brock struggles to win fame on the battlefield, and defeat the marauding armies of Stour Nightfall. He hopes for help from the crown. But King Jezal’s son, the feckless Prince Orso, is a man who specialises in disappointments.

Savine dan Glokta – socialite, investor, and daughter of the most feared man in the Union – plans to claw her way to the top of the slag-heap of society by any means necessary. But the slums boil over with a rage that all the money in the world cannot control.

The age of the machine dawns, but the age of magic refuses to die. With the help of the mad hillwoman Isern-i-Phail, Rikke struggles to control the blessing, or the curse, of the Long Eye. Glimpsing the future is one thing, but with the guiding hand of the First of the Magi still pulling the strings, changing it will be quite another…

Oh gently caress. Isern-i-Phail is Crummock-i-Phail's daughter that says "sheepfucker!"

ZekeNY
Jun 13, 2013

Probably AFK

Khizan posted:

Jezal was mostly worthless because he was spoiled rotten and allowed to get away with everything. He started coming around after his trip with Logen, but ran into Bayaz and got told something along the lines of "Sit down, shut up, sign what we put in front of you. You're useful but not irreplaceable and horrible things can and will happen to you."

Well, yeah. And then when he tried to act like he was the king for real, Bayaz told him that he’s a worthless figurehead who’ll do as he’s told, or else, and Jezal decided he’s pretty much fine with that, aside from maybe fiddling around the margins of his orders now and then.

But it’ll be interesting to see if nature vs nurture will be a theme of mini-Glokta’s story

ZekeNY fucked around with this message at 12:22 on Dec 7, 2018

Magitek
Feb 20, 2008

That's not jolly.
That's not jolly at all!

ZekeNY posted:

Well, yeah. And then when he tried to act like he was the king for real, Bayaz told him that he’s a worthless figurehead who’ll do as he’s told, or else, and Jezal decided he’s pretty much fine with that, aside from maybe fiddling around the margins of his orders now and then.

That was an entertaining chapter. I remember re-reading it again immediately, and then listening to it a couple times when I bought the audiobook recently. Steven Pacey is a fantastic narrator, btw.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.

spandexcajun posted:

I've read shitloads of fantasy and some westerns so I was well prepped for Joe's first works. I have not really read any Victorian era / Industrial revolution books. Time to hit up some Dicken's I guess :)

Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn universe starts medievalish then applies the rules of the magic system to a functional western in a follow on trilogy.

It's fun!

Suxpool
Nov 20, 2002
I want something good to die for...to make it beautiful to live

Fly Molo posted:


Oh gently caress. Isern-i-Phail is Crummock-i-Phail's daughter son that says "sheepfucker!"

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spandexcajun
Feb 28, 2005

Suck the head for a little extra cajun flavor
Fallen Rib

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn universe starts medievalish then applies the rules of the magic system to a functional western in a follow on trilogy.

It's fun!

I'm about 100 pages from finishing "Word's of Radiance". I might need a Sanderson break after 2400 pages :)

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