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facialimpediment
Feb 11, 2005

as the world turns

FAUXTON posted:

lmao the president at the time those crimes were happening was Obama, I see how this works

The best part is that it's really, really hard to violate campaign finance laws nowadays. Due to the Supreme Court case, you have to both gently caress up and *know specifically that you are loving up when you are loving up*. It's a weird thing where ignorance of the law is actually a valid defense.

SDNY/Mueller are basically saying that Donnie met that standard. Not only did he commit a felony campaign finance violation, he likely knew it was a felony campaign finance violation when he told Cohen to do the felony campaign violation.

Very legal and very cool.

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Oxygenpoisoning
Feb 21, 2006
I was watching CNN earlier and Santorum was trying to spin this like Obama was illegally violating spying laws in regards the filings. It will be interesting how they actually spin it after the fact.

Flying_Crab
Apr 12, 2002



Good thing their idiotic FISA conspiracy theories have nothing to do with this rock solid Cohen campaign finance angle.

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





Trump owns

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Oxygenpoisoning posted:

I was watching CNN earlier and Santorum was trying to spin this like Obama was illegally violating spying laws in regards the filings. It will be interesting how they actually spin it after the fact.

they really think they could have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling wiretaps

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





FAUXTON posted:

they really think they could have gotten away with it if it wasn't for those meddling wiretaps

They probably still will

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

He's be exonerated, or so he claims, like 6-7 times now. He's really hoping the next one will exonerate him even more.

Too bad about individual 1, however. Ashame.

Hexyflexy
Sep 2, 2011

asymptotically approaching one
Can you prosecute an ex-president for a felony committed before they were president? Ignoring the whole impeachment thing.

M_Gargantua
Oct 16, 2006

STOMP'N ON INTO THE POWERLINES

Exciting Lemon

I was in a coffee shop today and me and everyone there could only speak the words Trump! Many expressed their feelings by changing the order of the letters or the tone of the word. Each conveying their feelings and being understood by those around them by their eyes, pleading in vocalization of the royal syllables.

‘trmup’ was a sad mourning for our reality that is faltering

‘tUMpr’ was an expression of great pain and longing for death

‘TmRup’ was the call to warn us that the Q conspiracy would quickly escalate to violence

‘Tpeum’ was the signal that maybe this wasn’t actually how it’s supposed to go

‘Trump!’ claimed a nationalist snowflake who had found himself in this liberal fortress of caffeine until with a...

‘tRMUP!’ he suffered a jaw bone fracture by an attending college student.

trmpr’ in quiet prayer as passersby spilt ceremonial hot coffee on the weeping chud as they departed to face another day of wage slavery and debt to a system that is failing them.

Hot Karl Marx
Mar 16, 2009

Politburo regulations about social distancing require to downgrade your Karlmarxing to cold, and sorry about the dnc primaries, please enjoy!
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1003616210922147841

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010

Against All Tyrants

Ultra Carp

Hexyflexy posted:

Can you prosecute an ex-president for a felony committed before they were president? Ignoring the whole impeachment thing.

Yes, and ironically we know this because of the Republican efforts to try and hit Bill Clinton for Whitewater IIRC

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

[-]

Hexyflexy posted:

Can you prosecute an ex-president for a felony committed before they were president? Ignoring the whole impeachment thing.

d e c o r u m

t r a d i t i o n

3 r d w o r l d

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

egyptian rat race posted:

Gonna be interesting seeing a former president thrash his way to the grave on Twitter instead of quietly building houses for humanity

Jimmy carter being utterly reviled by southern "christians" and evangelicals in particular is proof positive that jesus christ holds no sway in america lol

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

I'm pretty sure his views haven't evolved on this one since the date he squeezed it out his anus and on to Twitter.

I am horrifying curious though of how it would go down in the theoretical situation where there was rock solid, black and white irrefutable paper trail evidence, he got convicted and just straight up did this. Outright pardoning himself. Just, "Nope, I think I'm innocent. Don't care" How far WILL the Republicans ride this crazy train?

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





bird food bathtub posted:

I'm pretty sure his views haven't evolved on this one since the date he squeezed it out his anus and on to Twitter.

I am horrifying curious though of how it would go down in the theoretical situation where there was rock solid, black and white irrefutable paper trail evidence, he got convicted and just straight up did this. Outright pardoning himself. Just, "Nope, I think I'm innocent. Don't care" How far WILL the Republicans ride this crazy train?

Exactly as far as it doesnt damage their chances of staying in power.

Syrian Lannister
Aug 25, 2007

Oh, did I kill him too?
I've been a very busy little man.


Sugartime Jones
Hell even Tricky Dick Nixon didn't pardon himself. Pence might do it, if he's still around, but I think its doubtful

https://www.justice.gov/file/20856/download

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

my kinda ape posted:

Hahaha God drat. Why does anyone voluntarily work for this administration anymore??

"Maybe I can be the one to change him"

Terrifying Effigies
Oct 22, 2008

Problems look mighty small from 150 miles up.

Syrian Lannister posted:

Hell even Tricky Dick Nixon didn't pardon himself. Pence might do it, if he's still around, but I think its doubtful

https://www.justice.gov/file/20856/download

If it comes to the point of President Pence you're going to see the GOP, Fox News etc wake up the next morning and pretend they've been in a coma since 2016 and have no idea who this "Donald Trump" character is and why he's claiming he's President, with a strong helping of *secret ~NYC~ liberal* sauce on top.

They're going to have to be digging hooker bodies out of the Rose Garden before we get to that point though.

Godholio
Aug 28, 2002

Does a bear split in the woods near Zheleznogorsk?

my kinda ape posted:

Hahaha God drat. Why does anyone voluntarily work for this administration anymore??

For the book deals.

McNally
Sep 13, 2007

Ask me about Proposition 305


Do you like muskets?

Godholio posted:

For the book deals.

It's probably this.

sharknado slashfic
Jun 24, 2011

Fox is trying to minimize it and remind everyone that WHAT ABOUT JAMES COMEY, that's all I can bother listening to

Comrade Blyatlov
Aug 4, 2007


should have picked four fingers





How do you minimize the goddamn POTUS outright committing felonies and ordering treason?

:psyduck:

Stultus Maximus
Dec 21, 2009

USPOL May

TF CURES GENERATOR posted:

How do you minimize the goddamn POTUS outright committing felonies and ordering treason?

:psyduck:

They minimized Nixon until it couldn't be ignored any more.

e:

Stultus Maximus fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Dec 8, 2018

Tryzzub
Jan 1, 2007

Mudslide Experiment

TF CURES GENERATOR posted:

How do you minimize the goddamn POTUS outright committing felonies and ordering treason?

:psyduck:

oh yeah but what about obama and also hillary :smug:

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Stultus Maximus posted:

They minimized Nixon until it couldn't be ignored any more.

e:


Dude on right definitely playing pocket pull

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
Hey just in case anyone thought the right-wing rear end raping of our judicial system was anywhere near complete check out the kind of poo poo that active, sitting judges are saying out loud, in public forums such as a Federalist Society meeting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQDRQKO09tY&t=3126s

"I would probably institute a new federal rule that said all cases worth less than $500,00 would be tried without any discovery."

A Bad Poster
Sep 25, 2006
Seriously, shut the fuck up.

:dukedog:
So less judicial oversight than an episode of Judge Judy?

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
Only for piddly poo poo like everyone not going to court for a cool half million.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Sounds like someone has something to hide.

As Nero Danced
Sep 3, 2009

Alright, let's do this

bird food bathtub posted:

Hey just in case anyone thought the right-wing rear end raping of our judicial system was anywhere near complete check out the kind of poo poo that active, sitting judges are saying out loud, in public forums such as a Federalist Society meeting:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQDRQKO09tY&t=3126s

"I would probably institute a new federal rule that said all cases worth less than $500,00 would be tried without any discovery."

"The only poor people I want to hear about are the people who tend to my pores at the spa."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtUfNtgawNY

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1071382401954267136
The amount of falsehoods in this <280 character message is pretty impressive.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1071387078901030913
This one is actually hurts a bit if you try to make sense of it.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1071389414239162369
~40% of Americans will read this and side with all caps grandpa.

egyptian rat race
Jul 13, 2007

Lowtax Spine Fund 2019
Ultra Carp
All-caps grandpa is a great username

Riot Carol Danvers
Jul 30, 2004

It's super dumb, but I can't stop myself. This is just kind of how I do things.
I'm a big fan of this reply to that second tweet:

"You live in the stupidest imaginable fantasy possible, you hairless bipedal flaxen donkeypig gently caress"

Coldwar timewarp
May 8, 2007



Godholio posted:

For the book deals.

Some, like Mattis, seem to think it’s a national obligation, some, like the acting AG, are grifters. Some use presidential power to pursue their goals like Bolton. All are opportunists. All know that their rehabilitation is only a few years away if they want that, on fox or any of the other outlets as either the “reasonable conservative” or Baghdad Bob type.

If GWB has been rehabilitated, anyone can be, and it’s easy.

Handsome Ralph
Sep 3, 2004

Oh boy, posting!
That's where I'm a Viking!



I feel like this got glanced over, but that's pretty solid on Mattis' part.

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

Handsome Ralph posted:

I feel like this got glanced over, but that's pretty solid on Mattis' part.

Yeah. And having read the report (there is an unclass version out there as well), it would be sooo lovely to let off the senior commanders.

mods changed my name
Oct 30, 2017
get hosed Kelly

https://twitter.com/W7VOA/status/1071468639403036672

dscruffy1
Nov 22, 2007

Look out!
Nap Ghost
Did anyone actually think Kelly was going to be a decent person in this job?

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mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost

dscruffy1 posted:

Did anyone actually think Kelly was going to be a decent person in this job?

Well, he was an old racist man, so maybe?

In the context of this admin's overarching goals.

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