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Alien Isolation is so loving dope in almost every conceivable way,
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steinrokkan posted:Wasteland 2 is nowhere close to NV. It's an ugly, obtuse game with mostly lovely quests and world design, and frankly terrible, awful core mechanics. BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Alien Isolation is so loving dope in almost every conceivable way, 
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Dec 7, 2018 23:52
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Sardonik posted:Sorry about your taste. Don't be sorry that I have taste for games that don't hurt my eyes and also are not bottom of the barrel in gameplay. There are RPG games made by teams of <5 people in the same time frame as Wasteland 2 that are vastly superior to it in every way.
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Dec 7, 2018 23:53
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food court bailiff posted:the plot is subtle and nuanced and good, better than a game plot has a right to be, the game world is interesting with tons to discover and explore, and it doesn't really pretend to be babby's first action game like oblivion and skyrim did Morrowind deffo had the most interesting environs but lol at playing any of those Elder Scrolls turds for the plot
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Dec 8, 2018 00:01
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Alien Isolation is so loving dope in almost every conceivable way, My only gripe with AI is that it's really long. These kinds of games are best when played in a long stretch and lose their impact if you try to play it 30 mins here and there, but trying to plow through 20 hours of AI in a weekend is exhausting. I wouldn't have cut anything, because I loved it all, but the pacing might have been better if they released exactly the same game in 3 episodes. Sardonik posted:Except how you lost progress when you die. I want to be scared, not annoyed. Some people say a penalty for death is required for a game to be scary but I just don't buy it. Amensia worked just fine without one. savescumming through it would have ruined the tension poverty goat fucked around with this message at 00:07 on Dec 8, 2018 |
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Dec 8, 2018 00:04
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steinrokkan posted:Apparently Celeste is some generic indie platformer for people so dumb they forget they need to breathe Sounds like that clown has better taste than you. So I played the original Dragon Quest game. Boy was that a slog. Does the franchise ever get better or what?
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Dec 8, 2018 00:09
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Haven't played AI so grain of salt, but having to "oh god, again I have to do this bit I've beaten 5 times now because the bit after it is hard" kind of takes the mood away.
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Dec 8, 2018 00:10
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poverty goat posted:GOTY 2018 is Hitman 2 You're not wrong but people will trip over themselves to say "NUH UH RDR2" 13Pandora13 posted:How bitchy is everyone at Bethesda right now with the entirety of game media treating the new Obsidian space RPG as the true successor to the Fallout franchise (in spirit)? I should have phrased this "everyone working at Bethesda" but I didn't. I hope Todd is having a miserable day watching everyone fawn over a trailer that has nothing to do with the franchise he drove into the dirt but people immediately liken it to anyway.
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Dec 8, 2018 00:13
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FoolyCharged posted:Haven't played AI so grain of salt, but having to "oh god, again I have to do this bit I've beaten 5 times now because the bit after it is hard" kind of takes the mood away. reading maps to make sure you find savepoints and sometimes backtracking while the alien hunts you to save before you make some bold move is part of the game and it works fine imo once you learn that this is part of the game and strategy. you'll have a rough time if you expect the game to feed you convenient autosaves because that's just not how the alien universe works olives black posted:Morrowind deffo had the most interesting environs but lol at playing any of those Elder Scrolls turds for the plot Morrowind actually has some of the best writing/lore around for a fantasy videogame universe, largely because of Michael Kirkbride and his alcoholism 13Pandora13 posted:You're not wrong but people will trip over themselves to say "NUH UH RDR2" poverty goat fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Dec 8, 2018 |
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Dec 8, 2018 00:13
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:Wish I could live in the alternate history where Black Isle got to make their Fallout 3 game and the series wasn't turned into mush by Todd Howard. New Vegas is Fallout 3. Obsidian reused the story from the original Black Isle F3 prototype
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Dec 8, 2018 00:20
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Rockstar has perfected the combination of pretty open world and weirdly on-rails missions and I hate it, RDR2 seems especially egregious re: ending the game if you deviate from the mission in even the slightest way
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Dec 8, 2018 00:25
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Rutibex posted:New Vegas is Fallout 3. Obsidian reused the story from the original Black Isle F3 prototype https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Buren_(video_game) I had forgotten that the Dam conflict was going to be in Van Buren. I was also going to argue about the orbital weapons plot but on reflection that was clearly the inspiration for Lonesome Road.
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Dec 8, 2018 00:42
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I want alien isolation 2 and I want it to be native vr.
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christmas boots posted:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Buren_(video_game) there is also that big space laser thing the NCR has. its not super important to the plot but its there
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Dec 8, 2018 01:03
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I could have sworn that there was some plot element about a plague that you were unwittingly spreading, but other than that it looks like everything made it to New Vegas.
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Dec 8, 2018 03:26
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Sardonik posted:
I absolutely adore the save system in A:I. I have zero qualms. poverty goat posted:My only gripe with AI is that it's really long. These kinds of games are best when played in a long stretch and lose their impact if you try to play it 30 mins here and there, but trying to plow through 20 hours of AI in a weekend is exhausting. I wouldn't have cut anything, because I loved it all, but the pacing might have been better if they released exactly the same game in 3 episodes. I can see their internal debate, because the assets were already there, and it was launching at a time (early console cycle) when single-player only titles are more precarious to make. People get kind of lovely about game length reflecting dollars paid, so I imagine they just said 'gently caress it', throw everything in. To be fair, some of the later stuff is real drat good. There was one encounter late in the game when you have to fix a generator to find an alternate route to the spaceport, and I had to do it upwards of like 15 times and it never got any less scary because you have to move back and forth between 2 or 3 rooms and the Alien is acting supper aggressive and unpredictable and there's only so much fuel for the flamethrower and the music gets super tense, not to mention that the alien starts adapting partial immunity to the flamethrower.  I dunno, it was all just so startling and nervewracking.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nihzJeQOZyg&t=11s Rutibex posted:New Vegas is Fallout 3. Obsidian reused the story from the original Black Isle F3 prototype No poo poo.  I should give NV a try.
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Dec 8, 2018 03:46
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Rockstar has perfected the combination of pretty open world and weirdly on-rails missions and I hate it, RDR2 seems especially egregious re: ending the game if you deviate from the mission in even the slightest way Saint's Row is just as bad about this.
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Dec 8, 2018 03:54
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:
You really should, it routinely goes on sale with all the DLCs on Steam for like $10.
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Dec 8, 2018 03:57
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McGiggins posted:I want alien isolation 2 and I want it to be native vr. Yes, please.
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veni veni veni posted:Yes, please.
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:
New Vegas rules if you care about cause and effect in games. Like, in bethesda games if you run into a faction you get a line of quests that you complete, and the end result is that you are Mr. Cool dude/the leader of the faction. Sometimes it's opposing factions. It doesn't matter or affect the game at all though, you're pretty much just checking boxes until you win. In NV pretty much everything you do affects the course of the game, who your enemies are, what quests you can do etc. You can't really do anything without pissing one group off and gaining a new set of enemies. I even remember doing a mission that would have involved pissing someone off that I didn't want to by killing one of their own, so I went and silently killed them in their sleep so no one would know who did it, and it worked. This wasn't even something the game suggested I try. it's rad. I need to replay that poo poo.
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Dec 8, 2018 04:27
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veni veni veni posted:In NV pretty much everything you do affects the course of the game, who your enemies are, what quests you can do etc. You can't really do anything without pissing one group off and gaining a new set of enemies. I even remember doing a mission that would have involved pissing someone off that I didn't want to by killing one of their own, so I went and silently killed them in their sleep so no one would know who did it, and it worked. This wasn't even something the game suggested I try. it's rad. I need to replay that poo poo. My favorite moment in NV was if you wait to meet the black kid with the broken legs until after you killed all the power gangers. "First I get my legs smashed, then in walks the Powder Gangers' grim loving reaper? What the gently caress have you got against us, bitch?"
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veni veni veni posted:New Vegas rules if you care about cause and effect in games. New Vegas basically took the quest structure from New Reno in Fallout 2 (with the 4 opposed crime houses) and turned that into the entire game
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Dec 8, 2018 04:50
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New vegas is the best modern fallout especially weighted for things like story, dialogue, gameplay, and every other metric.
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Dec 8, 2018 04:58
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basic hitler posted:New vegas is the best modern fallout especially weighted for things like story, dialogue, gameplay, and every other metric.
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basic hitler posted:New vegas is the best modern fallout especially weighted for things like story, dialogue, gameplay, and every other metric. the gameplay was hobbled somewhat by bethesda's janky engine but the sum of all the parts is still one of the greatest games of all time
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Dec 8, 2018 05:02
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NV's DLC was mostly top-notch as well. Dead Money, Honest Hearts and Old World Blues are still amazing, especially since they all hold up even if you considered them standalones.
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Dec 8, 2018 05:12
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I dont like dead money but its still worth playing once
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basic hitler posted:I dont like dead money but its still worth playing once play dead money once on a high luck/int character with maxed sneak, speech, lockpick, science, and energy weapons to make sure you can use the holorifle, bypass as much of the bullshit as possible, clean out the casino and talk your way through all the cool and good dialog then you can confidently never return, knowing you saw all the good poo poo poverty goat fucked around with this message at 05:29 on Dec 8, 2018 |
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Dec 8, 2018 05:25
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Which dlc had the explosive radios and intercoms? Was that dead money? That was poo poo. Iirc it was also full of zombies that were very resistant to bullets
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Dec 8, 2018 06:01
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unpopular opinion: Dead Money is awesome. I liked that it took all of your equipment away and turned it back into a survival game for a short while. also the NPCs were really interesting.
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QuarkJets posted:Which dlc had the explosive radios and intercoms? Was that dead money? That was poo poo. Iirc it was also full of zombies that were very resistant to bullets the upside is that the baddies are easy to kill with sneak and a melee weapon even if you put nothing into melee you just kinda go around decapping the baddies but i hate the gameplay of that dlc. experiencing dean domino and dog/god is worth it once but only once.
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Rutibex posted:unpopular opinion: Dead Money is awesome. I liked that it took all of your equipment away and turned it back into a survival game for a short while. also the NPCs were really interesting. the survival part is fine. the bomb radio poo poo is poo poo
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A key thing with Dead Money and Old World Blues is that they were specifically designed to counter what had become one of the most common builds in the game, stealth-oriented sniping with guns. (basically the equivalent to stealth archers in Skyrim) Stealth is basically useless in OWB because of the way enemy spawning works (and for an extra troll they give you specialised stealth armour and a unique silenced sniper rifle) and there's no long-ranged silenced guns in Dead Money. Of course, both give you lots of new melee and fist based weapons, so you're better off punching and stabbing everything to death with bear traps, overengineered kitchen knives, and mad science doodads.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:NV's DLC was mostly top-notch as well. Dead Money, Honest Hearts and Old World Blues are still amazing, especially since they all hold up even if you considered them standalones. Honestly I wasn’t really a fan of the DLC (except for OWB)
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Dec 8, 2018 06:40
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Dead Money is basically the Tomb of Horrors of FNV. Or at least something along the lines of an ancient, hella cursed ruin spoken of only in myth and legend.
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Dec 8, 2018 06:42
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Ghost Leviathan posted:A key thing with Dead Money and Old World Blues is that they were specifically designed to counter what had become one of the most common builds in the game, stealth-oriented sniping with guns. (basically the equivalent to stealth archers in Skyrim) Stealth is basically useless in OWB because of the way enemy spawning works (and for an extra troll they give you specialised stealth armour and a unique silenced sniper rifle) and there's no long-ranged silenced guns in Dead Money. actually the worst build for dead money is the build I had when I first stumbled into it, a power armor wearing low int melee retard without other useful skills. you lose your armor of course and the zombies hit hard, you always have to take the longest route through the fog, traps and zombies every time you go anywhere, and then you'll fail all the speech checks and get all the worst endings. dead money is a big gently caress you to idiots.
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Dec 8, 2018 06:44
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poverty goat posted:dead money is a big gently caress you to idiots. The positive side being that all that retard strength lets you carry out more gold bricks at the end.
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Also NV has a Zybourne Clock joke.
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