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Thranguy posted:I don't see any non-corrupt way you can have Forcett and St Clair coming even close without admitting a few people, Dan West or Norman Borlaug, say, if global impact is the main thing. Well, we don't even truly know that Forcett is that close, based on the Accountant's reaction. It could also be possible that the accountant assigned to Posthumous Charitable Work or whatever was so wowed by Mindy's creation of a globally-revolutionary charity after her death, for the first time, that they overvalued her action and assigned it enough points to make it unclear where she'd go.
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I'm kind of hoping that whatever Michael's endgame is will involve having the 4 humans help fool the other Demons in some way to manipulate them. Have the endgame come together to mirror the start of the show. It'd give Danson another chance to do that fantastic evil laugh again, but this time at Shawn's expense. Just "You never noticed at all? Wow. You know how many tries I had to fool those humans? Over 800. And they still figured it out that last time, I had to bullshit you so hard over those centuries! But you didn't even get one!"
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There's a video up on the Good Place Facebook page where D'Arcy talks about making this episode and we see some of the footage from the practise version they made with the cast actually playing out their roles.
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Goa Tse-tung posted:you know what happened in 1497 In 1497 human culture is not universally connected. No invention is going to spread across it within a lifetime. The Americas have only just been rediscovered by people from the main Europe-Africa-Asia landmass. That landmass is itself hugely divided- with decades or centuries for discoveries to radiate through neighbouring culture groups. Australian aboriginals are only being contacted by groups from New Guinea- who are themselves only loosely contacted by the rest of humanity. The Pacific islanders are completely isolated from people outside of the islands, and will be for a further century or more, depending on the island chain. With that in mind- If it is something related to a cultural shift, I'm going to be a bit incredulous unless there's some real good explanations going on. Like- from that example why does a Spanish monetary system mean that nobody gets into the Good Place ever again? Even somebody from China, Sub-Saharan Africa or India, who likely won't see a change originating in Europe for multiple decades, or Kiribati, New Zealand or Hawaii- who won't see it, or anything else from the mainland, for multiple centuries. I'm sure they will be thinking of this if they're going this direction, because the "Sentinel Island" problem is one that still exists in modern times. It's also a big question for Religious apologetics- the "Fate of the Unlearned"- and there are probably some interesting philosophy points you can get into.
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Or, it really is The Bad Place hacking the gibson. I mean, look how obsessed Shawn is with The Four That Got Away.
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Maybe the system isn't unfair. Maybe the human race is depraved and evil and we deserve the bad place.
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At least Harriet Tubman deserves to get in.
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DoubleCakes posted:At least Harriet Tubman deserves to get in. Do you know how many snails she stepped on in her lifetime? Over 7. OVER SEVEN! And she did not care in the least. Bad Place bound. edit: I think it has to do with the amount of choices available to people. The first two point events were giving someone a rock and that someone killing them with that rock. And since then choices grew exponentially until every there are so many choices it eventually became impossible to make all of them right to get into the Good Place. 1glitch0 fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Dec 9, 2018 |
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Gaz-L posted:I really, really want the whole cast of The Good Place to guest on the new season of Veronica Mars, but I know it would be distracting. I've been thinking about starting watching Veronica Mars just for more Kristen Bell. I never paid much attention to her until this show
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Veronica Mars still hold up. Plus it's got a great cast of recurring characters and guest stars, like Alyson Hannigan, Harry Hamlin, and Ken Marino. The next show to watch after that is Party Down, of course.
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If Fred Rogers didn't make it to the Good Place, then that's all the proof I need that the system is broken.
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Goa Tse-tung posted:you know what happened in 1497 honestly it would be pretty on the nose making capitalism the thing that's loving over humanity
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greententacle posted:I've been thinking about starting watching Veronica Mars just for more Kristen Bell. I never paid much attention to her until this show Season one of Veronica Mars is some excellent TV, despite stunt casting Paris Hilton. Seasons two and three are decent (they clearly didn’t have any idea beyond season one’s murder mystery when they created the show).
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pseudorandom name posted:Season one of Veronica Mars is some excellent TV, despite stunt casting Paris Hilton. Seasons two and three are decent (they clearly didn’t have any idea beyond season one’s murder mystery when they created the show). I disagree slightly, the first two seasons are great, but season two is absolutely the show at its best (less Lilly and Duncan)
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I could’ve sworn I saw Leslie Knope briefly in that rotating human stack.
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Conclusions posted:I could’ve sworn I saw Leslie Knope briefly in that rotating human stack.
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The "Nobody getting into the Good Place" reminds me of the BBC show "Old Harry's Game", where basically everyone ended up in hell. Though to be fair, Jane Austen was a violent thug.
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long-term plot speculation: the good place itself is completely broken and good place architects and leadership is fubar, completely unwilling to listen. The gang eventually turn around form a plan to rehabilitate the bad place into something approaching a 'just' afterlife. I have no idea how to get Sean to go along with this but maybe Eleanor can get him to experience existential dread and break/fix him like she did with Michael? Alternatively Shawn gets retired. I am not in favour of this because a bad place without MEJ is like whiskey without alcohol.
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I was wondering if they're back in the bad place again. Maybe Sean re-routed the portal and put the filter back on so they couldn't swear.
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double nine posted:long-term plot speculation: the good place itself is completely broken and good place architects and leadership is fubar, completely unwilling to listen. The gang eventually turn around form a plan to rehabilitate the bad place into something approaching a 'just' afterlife. I have no idea how to get Sean to go along with this but maybe Eleanor can get him to experience existential dread and break/fix him like she did with Michael? It's not going to be that easy - Michael had a weakpoint, his curiosity towards humanity. Shawn doesn't have that. Michael's curiosity became a backdoor to empathy, but Shawn won't be that simple.
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Guys my wife is wearing leggings as pants please advise.
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BioEnchanted posted:It's not going to be that easy - Michael had a weakpoint, his curiosity towards humanity. Shawn doesn't have that. Michael's curiosity became a backdoor to empathy, but Shawn won't be that simple. Yeah there's no way Shawn's being turned into a good person. He LOVES what he does too much. Your Taint posted:Guys my wife is wearing leggings as pants please advise. Sorry, she's absolutely destined for the Bad Place now.
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Whatever's going to happen, whatever Michael plans to do, no one will be able to effectively predict him because no one has the imagination to realise the scope of the problem - they might think he's trying to ignore the system, or jump the chain of command and take control of it, but by the time Michael's done, the chain won't exist in any recognisable way. Shawn and the others are going to be left reeling by the mess that will result from Michael noticing how hosed the system is and doing what demons do best - tearing it limb from limb. Basically Shawn is going to be the audience surrogate, having no idea what's going to happen next and trying to counter something that's no longer going on based on outdated intel. I really hope that by the end of the show he's totally lost his cool. BioEnchanted fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Dec 9, 2018 |
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I'm actually anticipating that the angels (or demon equivalent in the Good Place) are also happy with the current state of the system and will resist Michael's attempts at change. Thus the Soul Squad has to contend with an angel/demon teamup who will try to stop them.
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Your Taint posted:Guys my wife is wearing leggings as pants please advise. Hey, I'm wearing leggings as pants too! 
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i'm wearing pants as leggings
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I'm wearing pants as leggings as a shirt. Send help.
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God I can't believe I have to wait till next month to see whatever their insane set up is going to be. It also feels like this is the point where the show will have to take a proper moral stance, and after three seasons of poking holes in all moral systems I'm excited to see what they come up with.
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Kanine posted:honestly it would be pretty on the nose making capitalism the thing that's loving over humanity
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GreenNight posted:I’m guessing a lot of babies died in 500 years. I'm picturing a history we didn't see with Michael working his way up to Architect spending 500 years in the baby torturing division of the Bad Place. All flashing forward to Michael in Accounting where he finds out basically nobody makes it to the Good Place and THAT is what tips him off that the system is broken.
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ApplesandOranges posted:I'm actually anticipating that the angels (or demon equivalent in the Good Place) are also happy with the current state of the system and will resist Michael's attempts at change. Thus the Soul Squad has to contend with an angel/demon teamup who will try to stop them. The Soul Squad needs to find Sam and Dean. They're good at this stuff.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:It also feels like this is the point where the show will have to take a proper moral stance, and after three seasons of poking holes in all moral systems I'm excited to see what they come up with. Let's see, hot fruit is bad. Peanut butter & Jelly sandwiches are nature's most perfect food, and Wins are a terrible metric to evaluate pitchers.
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Propaganda Machine posted:Warm fruit pie is...bad? According to Michael Schur, yes. https://twitter.com/KenTremendous/status/1068512541758808064
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That's cool but if you've ever made jam you know that licking the hot fruit goo from the whisk is pretty much the best part, like cookie dough. And what about warm fruit sauce and syrups for cold non-fruit desserts?!
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that take is the worst thing michael schur has ever done
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eke out posted:that take is the worst thing michael schur has ever done That's tremendous praise for Michael Schur's body of work 
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greententacle posted:I've been thinking about starting watching Veronica Mars just for more Kristen Bell. I never paid much attention to her until this show
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eke out posted:that take is the worst thing michael schur has ever done https://twitter.com/KenTremendous/status/1068518892220297216
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