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Well he also did not know that Narancia had the boss's daughter.
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# ? Dec 9, 2018 23:45 |
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which is why he went to go scope them out, bumped into narancia because he's an idiot who can't keep a low profile, and found out that they do in fact have the boss's daughter
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# ? Dec 9, 2018 23:53 |
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they definitely thought Bruno had Trish, but needed to confirm. Trish is Polpo's business, Polpo dies and then Bruno's group goes missing the same day
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 00:04 |
I'm starting to think that this low-life thug might possibly not be the most rational thinker in the business.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 00:12 |
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When Narancia started dropping nukes, Formaggio should've cheesed it.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 00:20 |
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sirtommygunn posted:get tiny, get stand to throw you out of the car like a softball, dismiss stand then resummon stand in position to catch you, place yourself gently onto roof, dismiss stand. I don't think it was that complicated, he could have just grapped onto the doorframe before shrinking and climbed up to the roof as he got smaller. But anyway, this got me thinking about how a lot of stands don't seem to take full advantage of the fact that there's a separate entity (often depticted as a "punching ghost" or other object, like a tiny plane) that I'll refer to as the "avatar" of the stand, to differentiate it for the "power" or effect of the stand. It seems like early on Araki played around a lot with the fact that the stand power could manifest as an avatar outside of the user's body. Some part examples are Star Platinum bringing things into Jotaro's cell, Silver Chariot being on top of the bed while Polnareff was under it. (IMO this was the first good stand battle in the series since up to that point it seemed like they were constantly changing the rules or having things happen off-camera/off-panel that decided the outcome.) Or the time they shrunk their stand's to go inside Joseph's brain. There are also lots of ambiguous moments like Jotaro grabbing onto a ledge with Star Platinum and pulling himself up, Jotaro getting behind N'doul without being detected (did he sprint, jump?) and in the final battle between Jotaro and DIO it was often hard to tell where the stand avatar was in relation to the user. By part 4, stand ranges seemed to be more restrictive. I can only remember a few moments off hand where having a separate avatar was critical for Josuke or Kira in using their stands. Of course there's also stuff like Shigechi using harvest as a conveyer belt to climb up walls. In part 5 Gold Experience and Sticky fingers could both plausibly exist without a separate avatar. And I won't go into details, but there are stands in later parts that just stand or float near the user while their powers are active or they don't show an avatar at all for a stand power. Now I'm not saying that having a punching ghost separate from the user's body is a bad thing, it's what makes stands unique from most other superhuman abilities. I'm just saying that it doesn't seem like this fact is always used to it's full potential.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 00:21 |
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Pomplamoose posted:I don't think it was that complicated, he could have just grapped onto the doorframe before shrinking and climbed up to the roof as he got smaller. One thing the floating punchghosts do is indicate the physical strength of a Stand outside its superpowers. So Gold Experience is kind of weedy, while Sticky Fingers is a wall of armour and muscle. That's as much a part of Stand battles as whatever gimmick they have, particularly since so many of those gimmicks are about getting into/staying out of punching range.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 01:01 |
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I suspect if Formaggio had just waited in the back then he would've been caught carelessly by Narancia if he had started searching for CO2 and noticed that something in the car was breathing besides him.Momomo posted:Formaggio did the dumbest possible thing because he knew what series he was in. Remember that the main antagonist of the last part was found because he yelled out his real name in public. Hey now, he had to say his name, it was FATE :P the same things happened over and over so of course he had to mention his name again just like all of the previous times
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 01:32 |
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The cat flower stand was just part of its body.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 02:00 |
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I actually laughed when Formaggio was like "This kid must be smarter than he looks." And the answer is no, no he isn't. Narancia might be the dumbest Jobro so far. He's definitely dumber than Polnareff and he's definitely fighting Okuyasu for the spot.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 02:58 |
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I find Formaggio, a character in Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. thinking "These items must be for a woman" hilarious.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 03:01 |
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Onmi posted:I actually laughed when Formaggio was like "This kid must be smarter than he looks." And the answer is no, no he isn't. Narancia might be the dumbest Jobro so far. He's definitely dumber than Polnareff and he's definitely fighting Okuyasu for the spot. Narancia's not book smart and he's not even necessarily street smart, but he's definitely fight smart, and fight smart is good because what it amounts to is "loving kill the bastard first, ask questions later" Okuyasu's issue was that he tended to try and overthink too much and was at his best when he just decided to go with his gut. Narancia's weakness so far seems to be not going with his gut fast enough because hoo boy was he almost successful in loving riddling Formaggio with bullets a few times already. Formaggio is lucky his stand's sword can block bullets as quickly as it does.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 03:04 |
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FirstAidKite posted:I suspect if Formaggio had just waited in the back then he would've been caught carelessly by Narancia if he had started searching for CO2 and noticed that something in the car was breathing besides him. carbon dioxide is emitted when a car engine is running and burning gasoline, so that probably would be a false positive masking his prescence unless it was like flying around in the car, rather than doing external surveillance
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 03:13 |
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exploded mummy posted:carbon dioxide is emitted when a car engine is running and burning gasoline, so that probably would be a false positive masking his prescence unless it was like flying around in the car, rather than doing external surveillance Narancia could determine relative rates of respiration and the rats couldn't perfectly mask it, plus there's no guarantee that carbon dioxide wouldn't make Formaggio breathe harder if it was enough to mask him from Narancia's stand at normal rates of breathing.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 03:18 |
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exploded mummy posted:carbon dioxide is emitted when a car engine is running and burning gasoline, so that probably would be a false positive masking his prescence unless it was like flying around in the car, rather than doing external surveillance Yeah but I figure he'd probably be a little weirded out if he noticed the engine emissions were coming from the back right seat and were also extremely tiny in comparison to the rest of the engine emissions coming from the engine proper
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 03:21 |
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I wonder what would have happened if they had sent Fugo or Abbachio to get the stuff instead. Wonder if they would have been able to bluff Formaggio.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 03:23 |
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Formaggio shows up in the back of the car and starts talking poo poo to Fugo Fugo just immediately shivs him right then and there, no hesitation Formaggio shows up in the back of the car and starts talking poo poo to Abbachio Abbachio does something crazy like using his stand to telefrag Formaggio by playing back his moments in the same exact space or something
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 03:26 |
i'm really enjoying this dynamic where just about every character in the plot is walking in knowing stands are a thing, even people who don't have them themselves
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 04:00 |
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I'm sure the sudden appearance of spooky ghosts in random people across the world would have made at least one local news station.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 04:20 |
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FirstAidKite posted:Narancia's not book smart and he's not even necessarily street smart, but he's definitely fight smart, and fight smart is good because what it amounts to is "loving kill the bastard first, ask questions later" I agree with all of the this.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 04:31 |
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I agree with all of the this. That and he almost made it to the phone in time, including shooting open the container of full size coins. Narancia owns under pressure.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 04:43 |
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Yeah, Narancia has one of the most limiting Stands shown, say, post 3, since it's basically one part of Bad Company and kind of something like how Sheer Heart Attack works - but is incredibly good in using his stand, while nobody else seems to use theirs properly. He basically works like a typical JoJo's enemy where, the crappier the Stand, the better they are at using them, and vice versa. edit: Bucciarati is the only protagonist I've seen with an OP Stand that seems to be perfect at using it from the start.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 05:07 |
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Josuke was pretty good with Crazy Diamond from the outset.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 05:13 |
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:Josuke was pretty good with Crazy Diamond from the outset. Crazy Diamond was more of a punchghost thing that I wouldn't really call OP. Jotaro can stop time and started off figuring out how to get toys, and none of the other part 4 protagonists like Koichi with more adaptable Stands much figured out how to do things with them.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 05:39 |
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Josuke does some absolute baller stuff with Crazy Diamond, including creating new forms of existence, put some respect on his name
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 05:51 |
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There are certain things Josuke does that are definite evolutions of his earlier skills, with particular standouts being things like trapping Highway Star in the car being an extension of his earlier bottle trick with his mom and Aqua Necklace, or Josuke's homing bullets being a natural extension of his earlier attempt to follow Kira by healing his hand and chasing it, though these aren't specifically presented as big power-ups or evolutions in the sense that Echoes evolves, just more emphasis on what he is capable of and testing out how far he can stretch it
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 06:06 |
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Having a god tier stand makes you lazy. Having a scrub stand gets you motivated. It's basically Rocky: the horror anime show. hooman fucked around with this message at 06:24 on Dec 10, 2018 |
# ? Dec 10, 2018 06:22 |
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I am very disappointed at how woefully underutilized Echoes Act 2 is.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 06:44 |
Echoes Act 2 is S H I T
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 07:43 |
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Onmi posted:I actually laughed when Formaggio was like "This kid must be smarter than he looks." And the answer is no, no he isn't. Narancia might be the dumbest Jobro so far. He's definitely dumber than Polnareff and he's definitely fighting Okuyasu for the spot.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 10:47 |
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hooman posted:Having a god tier stand makes you lazy. Having a scrub stand gets you motivated. See: Shigechi being in a position to easily kill Josuke, Okuyasu and Kira using Harvest. Like, in absolutely any other hands, Harvest is ludicrously dangerous just because no one can fight 500+ tiny things who are apparently strong enough that if even one gets through, can maim you.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 12:25 |
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comedyblissoption posted:He says this right after narancia runs head first into a glass door and then almost dies from getting trapped in between said glass door closing on him because he's too slow and then suffering countless lacerations for shattering the door while he's wedged in it
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 16:04 |
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Nthing that Bakugou's voice actor was the perfect call for Ghiaccio.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 16:47 |
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Darko posted:
Bucciarati presumably picked up the “unzip your own arm so you can punch further like that Nintendo game” trick from Giogio, so I’m not sure I’d call him like an absolute master of his stand powers
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 16:52 |
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Mimesweeper posted:That, and as someone mentioned before, just staying small and hiding in the loving car until Narancia drove back to the hideout would have worked perfectly. Starting a fight to torture out the info was the dumbest possible idea.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 20:26 |
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Expect My Mom posted:I think a good glimpse into Araki views gender in his art is that he's admitted that whenever hes looking through fashion magazines for clothing or poses reference, gender isnt a barrier to him. Giorno and Bruno are constantly showing their breasts, Mista is always showing his midriff. Later on in Part 7, theres like a volume cover of two male protagonists, one holding the other up in embrace and grinding their genitals together and I think people have found the exact reference he used and its a heterosexual pair Do you have that picture and reference? I’m so curious now.
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 20:31 |
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Thumbtacks posted:Do you have that picture and reference? I’m so curious now. Spoilers for people who don't want to see future character designs Araki also really likes sensually posing characters with their Stands
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 21:04 |
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Narancia had been loving about for probably hours by that point and probably even said out loud that he felt like he was being tailed. Probably was because Narancia's stand did detect Formaggio, it just didn't make any sense. Formaggio decided to change tactics when it was pretty clear that Narancia was gonna keep going in circles. This is probably my favorite fight in Jojo now, because it's presented like "Formaggio susses out the
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 21:10 |
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Expect My Mom posted:My memory was bad, they're not exactly grinding genitals, but You Get It. ' Do you have a link to a page that has all of these compiled?
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 22:15 |
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It’s really cool seeing those, I never realized that some jojo poses are dumb fashion poses but it makes perfect sense
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# ? Dec 10, 2018 22:26 |