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Viva Miriya
Jan 9, 2007

ChickenWing posted:

you're goddamn right

The Imperium is a stupid tryhard name for a dumb idiot coalition of pubbies and mouthbreathers, but by god it is our stupid tryhard named dumb idiot coalition of pubbies and mouthbreathers

Change up the words and this is basically america today

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ZombieLenin
Sep 6, 2009

"Democracy for the insignificant minority, democracy for the rich--that is the democracy of capitalist society." VI Lenin


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ZekeNY posted:

There's some decent info on the wiki at https://wiki.goonfleet.com/I%27ve_Just_Joined_Goonwaffe,_Now_What%3F (that page is probably more relevant for someone who's just installed the game, though)

Short version is that we live in Delve, the 1DQ Thetastar is the main market hub and AFK palace, and if your stuff is worth moving, there are jump freighter services advertised in the S-Mart section of the goonfleet forums.

Most of my stuff is worth moving, but I would probably leave a lot of it—I see no need to bring 40 bill in faction ships and fittings. My primary concern is moving multiple capitals out to delve.

I haven’t checked the jump distance yet, but I would love to be able to move my Thanatos and Moros in a single day, or over a couple of days. That said my Thanatos can probably handle all of the subcaps and fittings I would really need to set up, and I could buy the rest there.

ChickenWing
Jul 22, 2010

:v:

Viva Miriya posted:

Change up the words and this is basically america today

:wangpatriot:

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

ZombieLenin posted:

Most of my stuff is worth moving, but I would probably leave a lot of it—I see no need to bring 40 bill in faction ships and fittings. My primary concern is moving multiple capitals out to delve.

I haven’t checked the jump distance yet, but I would love to be able to move my Thanatos and Moros in a single day, or over a couple of days. That said my Thanatos can probably handle all of the subcaps and fittings I would really need to set up, and I could buy the rest there.

Download GARPA Topographical Survey and use it to plan your trip. Its capital jump planner takes fatigue into account and will optimize your jump locations and fatigue accumulation. The only thing it doesn't do is filter for kickout stations, so make sure to use dotlan to look up the station model and make sure you're not gonna cyno into a system with a kickout.

Also, do not use fortizars or keepstars along the route in lowsec. They are likely bait structures and will deny you docking so they can shoot you.

ZekeNY
Jun 13, 2013

Probably AFK

ZombieLenin posted:

Most of my stuff is worth moving, but I would probably leave a lot of it—I see no need to bring 40 bill in faction ships and fittings. My primary concern is moving multiple capitals out to delve.

I haven’t checked the jump distance yet, but I would love to be able to move my Thanatos and Moros in a single day, or over a couple of days. That said my Thanatos can probably handle all of the subcaps and fittings I would really need to set up, and I could buy the rest there.

Jump fatigue isn't as bad as it used to be, so this shouldn't be too painful. If you're moving stuff out of Deklein, the route isn't too bad since between GSF and INITdot we own a lot of stuff on the way. (We had a keepstar and a bunch of other structures in 6RCQ during the latest war up there, but I'm not sure if they're still around.)

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dalael posted:

Back in those days i was with Fatal Ascension and "siege fleet" were boring bomber fleets to take out POS. Horrible horrible fleets. The name brings me nightmare.

Yes, those. That was me.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

There is nothing that could kill goons at this point Inb4 BoB or casino wars, that was before goons made up half of the entire games economy/ playerbase, before CCP made the entire game cater to them (just look at the CSM and god knows CCP doesnt play their own game) before fozziesov made it even harder to grind sov and before supercap proliferation. TAPI will never not blue goons so you are left with a situation where goons farm GOTG and panfam never truly killing them so they have someone to shoot and the same goes for TEST and winter coalition.

What/who is GOTG and how/why are we "farming" them and PH/PL/whatever?

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Addamere posted:

What/who is GOTG and how/why are we "farming" them and PH/PL/whatever?

GOTG stands for Guardians of the Galaxy, you know with Starlord and Groot.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Rutibex posted:

GOTG stands for Guardians of the Galaxy, you know with Starlord and Groot.

So are we trying to recruit talent from them (Rocket has great potential), or what, according to this guy?

4th Horseman
Jun 3, 2011

Addamere posted:

What/who is GOTG and how/why are we "farming" them and PH/PL/whatever?

Querns is quoting some chucklefuck somewhere else, but GotG were people that the sigs smashed up and then mainfleet really smashed up. They were basically a larger more powerful MC that did whatever the gently caress NCPL wanted. Since they signed a peace treaty with goons and gave us some faction fortizars their former allies were really upset and instead of banding together, decided to attack GotG. Recently we actually helped GotG against panfam. Honestly, if another big war comes I don't want them lining up for us.

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Addamere posted:

Yes, those. That was me.

But.... Why?

Those were horribly long and boring

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Dalael posted:

But.... Why?

Those were horribly long and boring

Think AFK Ishtar ratting only instead of ISK you get tears.

Johnny Five-Jaces
Jan 21, 2009


ZombieLenin posted:

Not to sound like a total loving newb (I mostly am because I stopped playing for 4 years); however, now that I am in Goonwaffe is there a loving primer for where I need to go and how I get my poo poo to null without it taking all week because of jump fatigue? I checked the goonwaffe forums/wiki but gently caress if I could find any information on this.

That said, I am pretty bad about missing obvious things on the interweb.


I mean, I am lazy, but this is why the CCP gods invented directional scan. When those ships come in they have to decloak, when they drop probes they have to decloak, and their probes will always be visible on directional scan. gently caress sitting all day, alt or not, in front of a static wormhole. :smithicide:

hit up micromancer on these dead gay forums or on jabber. he's been shepherding new goons in an effort to increase the SA presence within GSF and is a chill dude

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Dalael posted:

But.... Why?

Those were horribly long and boring

Dehumanize yourself and face to siegefleet


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHo7npmGcHU

Kimsemus
Dec 4, 2013

by Reene
Toilet Rascal
so since I missed it I guess, what did hk do to earn init's ire?

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

CainFortea posted:

Think AFK Ishtar ratting only instead of ISK you get tears.

Yes but half the tears comes from your own fleet members when the FC says there's one more POS to do.

I have been kicked in the balls twice in my life (totally 100% deserved it as you can imagine from my posting) and it was a more enjoyable experience than killing 3 POS in a row with siege fleet.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Kimsemus posted:

so since I missed it I guess, what did hk do to earn init's ire?

hubris

Pomp
Apr 3, 2012

by Fluffdaddy

Addamere posted:

So are we trying to recruit talent from them (Rocket has great potential), or what, according to this guy?

I bet rocket is a pro at making GBS threads up local

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Pomp posted:

I bet rocket is a pro at making GBS threads up local

We already have Xenuria for that

Gwyneth Palpate
Jun 7, 2010

Do you want your breadcrumbs highlighted?

~SMcD

Kimsemus posted:

so since I missed it I guess, what did hk do to earn init's ire?

they didn't really do anything in particular, init just wanted to hit a target perceived as one of the most difficult to hit in the game (that they weren't blue to)

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dalael posted:

But.... Why?

Those were horribly long and boring

Because the goal of the CFC/GSF war machine is to make conflict as unfun for the enemy as possible while grinding them down.

"You do not get to have these towers anymore and also there is no prospect of "good fights" for defending them." :geno:

And also to occasionally lose 50 bombers to a single enemy bomb because I am dumb as hell.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dalael posted:

Yes but half the tears comes from your own fleet members when the FC says there's one more POS to do.

I have been kicked in the balls twice in my life (totally 100% deserved it as you can imagine from my posting) and it was a more enjoyable experience than killing 3 POS in a row with siege fleet.

And yet here you are trying to call out the other posters itt for bandwagoning on "what the Imperium became" when you're talking to Lyris "Siege Fleet" Nairn.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Addamere posted:

And yet here you are trying to call out the other posters itt for bandwagoning on "what the Imperium became" when you're talking to Lyris "Siege Fleet" Nairn.

Don't try to have conversations with dalael, your brain will hurt from the dumb.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

orange juche posted:

Dehumanize yourself and face to siegefleet


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHo7npmGcHU

Has there ever been a more perfect film theme song?

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Pomp posted:

I bet rocket is a pro at making GBS threads up local

:hai:

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Addamere posted:

And yet here you are trying to call out the other posters itt for bandwagoning on "what the Imperium became" when you're talking to Lyris "Siege Fleet" Nairn.

How the gently caress are the two related in any way?

Me saying that siege fleet sucked is not the same thing as Orange douche coming in here saying "We" trying to pretend he has anything to do with current events when he spent the last 4 years saying how the the imperium now suck and how he was never joining mainfleet anyway.

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Dalael posted:

I have been kicked in the balls twice in my life (totally 100% deserved it as you can imagine from my posting) and it was a more enjoyable experience than killing 3 POS in a row with siege fleet.

Then you are shouldn't have been on siege fleets. Not everyone enjoys the same things. Not everyone enjoys the same things they do enjoy for the same reasons or even in the same way.

Some people enjoyed siege fleets because they were watching dwarf porn on the other monitor. Some people enjoyed bullshitting on comms. Some people enjoyed knowing that this non-entertaining activity was going to unlock an entertaining activity later, and were sowing for the future.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

CainFortea posted:

Then you are shouldn't have been on siege fleets. Not everyone enjoys the same things. Not everyone enjoys the same things they do enjoy for the same reasons or even in the same way.

Some people enjoyed siege fleets because they were watching dwarf porn on the other monitor. Some people enjoyed bullshitting on comms. Some people enjoyed knowing that this non-entertaining activity was going to unlock an entertaining activity later, and were sowing for the future.

I have repeatedly asked you not to doxx me. :(

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dalael posted:

How the gently caress are the two related in any way?

Me saying that siege fleet sucked is not the same thing as Orange douche coming in here saying "We" trying to pretend he has anything to do with current events when he spent the last 4 years saying how the the imperium now suck and how he was never joining mainfleet anyway.

how are you this dumb

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

CainFortea posted:

Then you are shouldn't have been on siege fleets. Not everyone enjoys the same things. Not everyone enjoys the same things they do enjoy for the same reasons or even in the same way.

Some people enjoyed siege fleets because they were watching dwarf porn on the other monitor. Some people enjoyed bullshitting on comms. Some people enjoyed knowing that this non-entertaining activity was going to unlock an entertaining activity later, and were sowing for the future.

I joined those fleets back in the day because FCs needed bodies to shoot POSes so I did my part. The more people, the faster the POSes go down. Eventually I unlocked logi's and never took part in a siege fleet again. Comms could be fun at times, but FA wasn't immune to cancerous people chatting in fleet so sometimes it was really annoying.

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Addamere posted:

how are you this dumb

Are we even having the same conversation? Wtf are you going on about?

What, is it a crime in your book to not like Siege Fleet? Are you really going to be the drama whore you were back in the FA days? Jesus gently caress

CainFortea
Oct 15, 2004


Addamere posted:

I have repeatedly asked you not to doxx me. :(

Oh, like it was ONLY you.

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Dalael posted:

How the gently caress are the two related in any way?

Me saying that siege fleet sucked is not the same thing as Orange douche coming in here saying "We" trying to pretend he has anything to do with current events when he spent the last 4 years saying how the the imperium now suck and how he was never joining mainfleet anyway.

He's trying to say :lurkmore: idiot

Also witty interpretation of my name there bud.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dalael posted:

Are we even having the same conversation? Wtf are you going on about?
You, being an idiot; separately, you trying to call out other people itt without having a leg to stand on.

quote:

What, is it a crime in your book to not like Siege Fleet?
I have repeatedly posted, even in this very incarnation of this thread in recent memory, that mainfleet is not for everyone and to feel no pressure to join any fleet and to feel free to just gently caress off and leave if you dislike a fleet for whatever reason. :raise:

e: Hell, siege fleet literally consists of nothing but stealth bombers who can just cloak and log off or gently caress off back home whenever they want. :confused:

Addamere fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Dec 12, 2018

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

orange juche posted:

He's trying to say :lurkmore: idiot

Also witty interpretation of my name there bud.

Calling you out for pretending you still have anything to do with goons != not liking siege fleet. There is no loving relation at all between the two subject.

I know wtf those fleets were about, it doesn't stop me from disliking them back then.

"But why" was a loving joke that he somehow thought was an assault on his precious fleets or some other bullshit and now I remember how much loving drama he brought to FA all the loving time

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
In what way did I interact with FA, outside of their pilots being in my fleets?

I only ever recall calling out Razor for verbally distancing themselves from the CFC.

Addamere
Jan 3, 2010

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Dalael posted:

"But why" was a loving joke that he somehow thought was an assault on his precious fleets or some other bullshit and now I remember how much loving drama he brought to FA all the loving time

You sure are a fragile idiot who can't take any push back at all without crying about it. Maybe you should not try to call out people if you do not like "drama".

Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Addamere posted:

You, being an idiot; separately, you trying to call out other people itt without having a leg to stand on.

I have repeatedly posted, even in this very incarnation of this thread in recent memory, that mainfleet is not for everyone and to feel no pressure to join any fleet and to feel free to just gently caress off and leave if you dislike a fleet for whatever reason. :raise:

e: Hell, siege fleet literally consists of nothing but stealth bombers who can just cloak and log off or gently caress off back home whenever they want. :confused:

Wtf do you mean by not having a leg to stand on? I was calling out OJ. Not you. he spent the last 4 loving years saying how the Imperium sucks, how it's filled with newbies & pubbies, how proud he was to not log on OR to just do wormhole stuff...

But every time the Imperium scores a victory of some sort, he comes in here saying this 'We" poo poo and that's what I was calling out.

I really really have no idea what the gently caress you're trying to do here or how any of this has anything to do with mainfleet. I never claimed to feel any pressure to join them, I just gave my opinion that siege fleet sucked back in those days, and for some reason you're going on a crusade.

Foehammer007
Dec 7, 2011

by Pragmatica
I DID MY PART

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Dalael
Oct 14, 2014
Hello. Yep, I still think Atlantis is Bolivia, yep, I'm still a giant idiot, yep, I'm still a huge racist. Some things never change!

Addamere posted:

In what way did I interact with FA, outside of their pilots being in my fleets?

I only ever recall calling out Razor for verbally distancing themselves from the CFC.

Dude, I was absolutely not talking about you. Why the gently caress do you feel attacked??

My original post (the calling out) was literally about OJ. You had nothing to do with that but somehow felt I was calling you out.

*edit: As an addendum, before you said you're Lyris, I had absolutely no idea who you are. Pretty sure I recall a Lyris posting on FA forums back in the days but I could be wrong.

Dalael fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Dec 12, 2018

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