|
Blade Runner posted:The reason Gawain is the way he is is because the last time he chose doing what he felt was right over loyalty, it led to them losing Camlann and both he and Artoria being killed. The kicker, of course, is that making the decision to let someone else make all the decisions is itself an important decision that he completely screwed up. Camelot. 'tis a silly place.
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 15:47
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 5, 2024 01:51 |
|
|
His biggest mistake was his constant insistence on cooking for his King and fellow Knights.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 15:50
|
|
|
Galaga Galaxian posted:His biggest mistake was his constant insistence on cooking for his King and fellow Knights. This isn't Gawain's fault, at some point you have to just start dumping garbage into Seiba's endless maw
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 16:12
|
|
|
Blade Runner posted:This isn't Gawain's fault, at some point you have to just start dumping garbage into Seiba's endless maw She's the king, they can drat well afford a full-time cook. That's absolutely Gawain's fault.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 16:16
|
|
|
Gawain says that Percival also cooked and was "better" than him. Give me Percival dammit!
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 16:56
|
|
|
MonsieurChoc posted:Gawain says that Percival also cooked and was "better" than him. Sorry, some MarySue bastard son of an OC fanfic addition completely stole his role and he is unnecessary.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 17:00
|
|
|
Galaga Galaxian posted:Sorry, some MarySue bastard son of an OC fanfic addition completely stole his role and he is unnecessary. But we know he exists in the Nasuverse!
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 17:03
|
|
|
Gawain’s mashed potatoes may not have been very good but you do have to give him credit for managing to make them like a thousand years before the potato was brought to Europe.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 17:04
|
|
|
Percy was one of the knights who sided against the Lion King in Camelot I want him to show up and then every time he tries to do anything Galahad does it instead
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 17:05
|
|
|
Holy crap the alternate version of Samba Quetz's NP features commentary by a special guest https://twitter.com/appmediafgo/status/1072802755729735682/video/1 Also Merlin shows up in Bradamante's bond 4 and 5 voice lines. Like, she doesn't just mention him, he actually starts talking.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 17:24
|
|
|
Santa Quetz is basically a budget version of the recent lostbelt ruler, being crit focused.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 17:27
|
|
|
FGO HeartGold and FGO SoulSilver
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 17:29
|
|
|
Tae posted:Santa Quetz is basically a budget version of the recent lostbelt ruler, being crit focused. N..no?
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 17:31
|
|
|
quote:Charisma + stars per turn Is that wrong?
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 17:33
|
|
|
Crits are not the focus of shi huang, their thing is being a tank
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 17:36
|
|
|
Besides all the things Qin does that aren't damage focused, I guess, like the np that turns him into an immovable rock for a turn, his aoe stun skill, his aoe charge reduction skill, his self heal that also debuff cleanses and charges his np 50%, yea they're extremely similar.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 17:41
|
|
|
Welfare Quetz is probably more comparable to Raikou or Suzuka if anything, just a lot tankier than those two purely by dint of being ruler class.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 17:47
|
|
|
I am just picturing the KotRT reunion at Chaldea with Gawain being summoned last. Mash, Mordred, Tristan, Artoria, Lancelot, and Bedivere all there to greet him. Then he suggests that in celebration, he should cook them all a meal! Mash, being Mash, of course is thrilled at the idea and says that would be a GREAT idea! Mordred just looks incredibly irked. Tristan is doing that Japanese thing where he's just looking incredibly depressed with GLOOM effects all around him. Artoria's eyes are completely in shadows, and she's standing there trembling ever so slightly with a frown on her face. Lancelot is glancing at Artoria going 'OH poo poo OH poo poo OH poo poo' as his Son/Daughter digs him into an even deeper hole with his King. Bedivere is standing there with a bright smile on his face... except that his head is tilted 45 degrees, as though something inside him just broke.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 17:48
|
|
|
Tae posted:Is that wrong? Huang has disruption based skills and becoming an invincible tank for a turn alongside buffing HIS OWN crit damage and absorb Santa Quetz has crit stargen, damage, and an AOE NP, she is purely damage focused alongside party wide damage buffs They are not very similar outside of being Ruler-class servants who in some way buff crit damage
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 17:48
|
|
|
by this standard wouldn't like half of the rulers be crit focused quetz, qin, holmes but they're all doing different things outside of stars. quetz having none of the stall of qin definitely sets her apart (and is fitting given rarity) and holmes is a support versus qin being selfish
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 17:48
|
|
|
Omobono posted:She's the king, they can drat well afford a full-time cook. do we know for a fact that Gawain is a bad chef or does he just exclusively make traditional English dishes?
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 17:49
|
|
|
Rorahusky posted:I am just picturing the KotRT reunion at Chaldea with Gawain being summoned last. Mash, Mordred, Tristan, Artoria, Lancelot, and Bedivere all there to greet him. Proto Arthur and Gawain get into a cooking competition, killing all of the knights once more
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 17:56
|
|
|
I just assumed one of lostbelt ruler's strength was crit just because his crit bonus was that massive.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 17:56
|
|
|
Galaga Galaxian posted:Sorry, some MarySue bastard son of an OC fanfic addition completely stole his role and he is unnecessary. ...who?
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 17:56
|
|
|
Aurora posted:...who? Galahad is the biggest Mary Sue OC written into Arthurian myth
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 17:58
|
|
|
Tae posted:I just assumed one of lostbelt ruler's strength was crit just because his crit bonus was that massive. It's more of a bonus to him when he has a team that can support it better. He can't make enough stars for himself and he would need enough np fed to him to keep that buff going. He's most definitely a big staller first and a really greedy dealer second.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 18:02
|
|
|
Lancelot was originally from a totally different legend that just ended up being shoved into Arthurian stuff as a crossover thing which is why he doesn't really fit thematically, he's ridiculously good at everything and has always been insanely overpowered for the Arthurian setting Then people wanted to push the Christian angle more so they made Lancelot an adulterer(in original legends he was almost definitely a homosexual)which meant he couldn't be the best knight, but they made it his kid instead For how much is a Mary Sue his kid is: a child of the previous strongest knight ever, pulls out a sword that's better than Arthur's from another also better rock but then throws it down because he does not believe in violence, easily retrieved the Grail and then says "later idiots" before flying off into space, entering Heaven immediately The Fate version of all these things is different, but well
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 18:08
|
|
|
he can solo pretty well, not sure what CE the video i saw used but stars didn't seem to be too big an issue
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 18:08
|
|
|
Blade Runner posted:Lancelot was originally from a totally different legend that just ended up being shoved into Arthurian stuff as a crossover thing which is why he doesn't really fit thematically, he's ridiculously good at everything and has always been insanely overpowered for the Arthurian setting What's Lancelot's original myth? I've only ever really seen him in Arthurian contexts.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 18:13
|
|
|
Pureauthor posted:Galahad is the biggest Mary Sue OC written into Arthurian myth But Galahad is our waifu.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 18:14
|
|
|
Blade Runner posted:Lancelot was originally from a totally different legend that just ended up being shoved into Arthurian stuff as a crossover thing which is why he doesn't really fit thematically, he's ridiculously good at everything and has always been insanely overpowered for the Arthurian setting So what you're saying is, in about 500 years Arthurian legends will also feature a Japanese cook as an extra character? And possibly Leonardo da Vinci as a time-traveling guest?
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 18:19
|
|
|
Holmes is definitively the crit Ruler.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 18:22
|
|
|
QSH is both a staller and one of the best Crit Damage dealers in the game. He keeps his team alive and dishes out heavy damage when you get his NP looping (and it’s pretty easy to double up with his 50% battery even without arts support). He’s great. Santa Quetz is more like regular Quetz but with stars per turn instead of an np charge skill and AOE NP. Her kits pretty vanilla tbh, was hoping for something a little weirder. Still good though.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 18:28
|
|
|
Blade Runner posted:Proto Arthur and Gawain get into a cooking competition, killing all of the knights once more But Arthur is a good cook.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 18:29
|
|
|
Transient People posted:What's Lancelot's original myth? I've only ever really seen him in Arthurian contexts. That's actually harder to say, because Lancelot is a really composite-esque character when you look at him closely. He's based off of both Tristan and Diarmuid in some part, and the original story where we see the modern "Lancelot" is Le Chevalier de la Charette, which is an adaptation of an older story but rewritten to include Lancelot as the hero. Due to the nature of the Vulgate cycle and how it was basically just a story totally about him(Alongside the fact that the Vulgate is probably much older than the thirteenth century, but underwent extremely heavy revisions during that time to the point of being completely rewritten by very Christian authors) it's a relatively common thought that the Vulgate was originally a totally distinct story that just got shoved into Arthurian stuff.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 18:32
|
|
|
Yay, got Bradamante. Did not expect her first sprite to have less clothes than her banner art, though.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 18:34
|
|
|
I just assume all Arthurian myth really stems from the Sam Neil 1998 miniseries Merlin.
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 18:35
|
|
|
Bakanogami posted:Holy crap the alternate version of Samba Quetz's NP features commentary by a special guest Jaguar Warrior is just TOO STRONG
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 18:40
|
|
|
Basically Nasu’s take on Arthurian myth is basically as legit and Valid as everything past the very first known instance of King Arthur, which is a pair of historic records of questionable legitimacy from several hundred years after he supposedly lived. This record mentions Arthur twice. One saying King Arthur had won a battle, the second record simply mentions King Arthur and Mordred fell in battle (it doesn’t even specifically say they were enemies). [loving autocorrect] Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 20:01 on Dec 12, 2018 |
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 18:43
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 5, 2024 01:51 |
|
|
Galaga Galaxian posted:Basically Nasu’s take care n Arthurian myth is basically as legit and Valid as everything past the very first known instance of King Arthur, which is a pair of historic records of questionable legitimacy from several hundred years after he supposedly lived. This record mentions Arthur twice. One saying King Arthur had won a battle, the second record simply mentions King Arthur and Mordred fell in battle (it doesn’t even specifically say they were enemies). I mean anything is as valid as anything else when it comes to myths it's all made up and there's like a billion authors
|
|
#
?
Dec 12, 2018 19:01
|
|