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This is hilarious, he didn't even make it a year.
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Are Bill Blair and Brad Blair closely related?
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Drunk Canuck posted:These motherfuckers are beyond stupid It really takes you back doesn't it? Back to those halcyon days of 2010-2014 TrueChaos posted:This is hilarious, he didn't even make it a year. Make what a year? This doesn't stop BTW, there's just more and more and more stupid lovely ethical violations and petty scandals that will keep coming and never stop, and at no point ever will anyone face real consequences for them. At some point something will go to court and people will be all "here it comes, this matters" and no, it doesn't, and it won't mean a goddamn thing except even more stupidity and vitriol and utter contempt for the electorate and the law. James Baud posted:Are Bill Blair and Brad Blair closely related?  They look like they could be brothers, but as far as I can tell they're not. Bill is from Scarborough, Brad is from Essex, ON. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 04:36 on Dec 12, 2018 |
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Dec 12, 2018 04:28
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EngineerJoe posted:This is great news since Trump just admitted that he would use her as a bargaining chip to get a better trade deal. Canada doesn't need to be poo poo on by China just to give USA leverage. What a loving Trump. Welp, so much for the Canadian justice system extraditing her. Guess we may as well talk to the Chinese about that NGO dude they scooped up. Trump is very good at this presidenting thing. Keep up the good work. 
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Dec 12, 2018 07:02
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THREE day bail hearing jfc, she’s going to flee guaranteed
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Dec 12, 2018 07:11
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I thought that was the point? Isn't this Canada realizing we hosed up by getting involved in a pissing match with China and Trump and just giving ourselves an out? This way she gets to leave and we can say "well we arrested her, not our fault she skipped bail".
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Dec 12, 2018 07:23
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Risky Bisquick posted:THREE day bail hearing jfc, she’s going to flee guaranteed Over/under on her securing a new passport under a different name and flies out of Vancouver to Asia in 4 days? Over
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Dec 12, 2018 07:24
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China has disappeared a Canadian in retaliation so this is only getting started.
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Dec 12, 2018 07:25
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Sure but the guy didn't even have diplomatic immunity, what does the Canadian government really care? I don't really see what dog we have in this ridiculous fight. Canada has no business pretending to be relevant internationally in the first place, our job right now is to play nice with the literally demented person in charge of the country that is our boss.
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ChairMaster posted:Sure but the guy didn't even have diplomatic immunity, what does the Canadian government really care? I don't really see what dog we have in this ridiculous fight. Canada has no business pretending to be relevant internationally in the first place, our job right now is to play nice with the literally demented person in charge of the country that is our boss. But it's two people and they're both mad at us.
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On the other hand this draws much needed public scrutiny to Huawei in Canada. They have no loving business being involved with 5G for Bellus and we're the last of the Five Eyes (which has its own obvious set of problems) stupid enough to still be allowing them. I guess that sweet Hockey Night in Canada cash is doing something for government good-will but this CFO poo poo show might offset public opinion of them. Having Huawei as the lead story for corruption, spying and some probably bullshit Iranian sanction violations can't be good for their public look to the boomers and other olds who vote and complain on Facebook. This feels like it's going to go down the road of a right decision for the wrong reasons if Bell and Telus end up having to fork over $1 Bill to remove Huawei 5G equipment
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Dec 12, 2018 10:23
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less than three posted:China has disappeared a Canadian in retaliation so this is only getting started. Arresting someone is not 'disappearing' them lmao
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Ahahahaha. Oh man this should be good for some  https://twitter.com/robertbenzie/status/1072874017982427136 e: The letter from Interim Commissioner Brad Blair to the Office of the Ombudsman infernal machines fucked around with this message at 16:58 on Dec 12, 2018 |
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Dec 12, 2018 16:44
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ocrumsprug posted:Over/under on her securing a new passport under a different name and flies out of Vancouver to Asia in 4 days? The Bail conditions have her actively monitored with a surveillance detail, she is also supposed to have a electronic bracelet, physical check ins and is banned from the Richmond airport. I highly doubt she can easily flee, there are workarounds of course but she can't just fly out of the Richmond airport, she can't cross the Canada-US border to a different international airport, and she can't leave Vancouver/Richmond to fly somewhere else. Still I am surprised that she did get bail as she is probably the text book case of flight risk. Rich, ties to other countries, connected to other rich people, and wanted in connection for a crime serious enough to want to avoid it.
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Godinster posted:Having Huawei as the lead story for corruption, spying and some probably bullshit Iranian sanction violations can't be good for their public look to the boomers and other olds who vote and complain on Facebook. If public opinion somehow becomes aware of them, they won’t leave. They’ll set up a boutique brand for the West that’s rebranded Huawei equipment. It’s not Huawei, it’s Maple Technologies or the hollowed out corpse of Blackberry.
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Dec 12, 2018 17:14
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I'm pleasantly surprised we're doing anything contrary to the wishes of the Chinese dictatorship, considering how much of us they own. I wonder how long it will last?
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Blood Boils posted:I'm pleasantly surprised we're doing anything contrary to the wishes of the Chinese dictatorship, considering how much of us they own. I wonder how long it will last? OTOH we're doing it specifically at the behest of the Americans so that they can hold her as leverage in a trade war.
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Dec 12, 2018 17:20
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infernal machines posted:OTOH we're doing it specifically at the behest of the Americans so that they can hold her as leverage in a trade war. Isn't it technically at the behest of an extradition treaty with the US, which is a nice thing to have assuming the US is acting in good faith. Of course if Trump is dumb enough to say he wants to use her as a pawn in a trade war maybe that provides enough judicial cover to just deny the extradition request and forget the whole thing (not a lawyer).
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I think the technicality is moot once the President goes on record stating his intent to use her detention for political purposes. I guess in terms of people we have detained for the Americans for nefarious purposes, this doesn't really rate because we haven't shipped her to a black site to be tortured for a decade, but still. infernal machines fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Dec 12, 2018 |
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Dec 12, 2018 17:44
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Hey hey. Maybe we could give her ten million in compensation after a decade in Gitmo!
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Dec 12, 2018 17:51
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James Baud posted:Hey hey. Maybe we could give her ten million in compensation after a decade in Gitmo! This is a bad comparison and you should feel bad.
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infernal machines posted:I think the technicality is moot once the President goes on record stating his intent to use her detention for political purposes. Odds on PMJT saying something like "If Trump and Xi want to play chess they can do it with their own pieces" and having her conditions lifted?
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flakeloaf posted:Odds on PMJT saying something like "If Trump and Xi want to play chess they can do it with their own pieces" and having her conditions lifted? None whatsoever.
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Dec 12, 2018 18:04
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Alright which one of ya with the anime avatars did this? https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cbsa-border-child-sex-dolls-1.4941213
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infernal machines posted:None whatsoever. He really does seem like more of a checkers guy
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In my head cannon of this event there was some kind of behind the scenes maneuvering straight out of the wire, like maybe the Liberal government wanted her to be let go but some conservative voting mid level guy in the boarder service saw that technically there was a warrant for her and decided to follow his job to the letter just to gently caress with the higher ups like something out of The Wire. I have particular no reason to think this I just think it's a funnier version of events if behind the scenes the Canadian government and its servants were tripping over each others dicks trying to figure out which foreign government they want to keep happy.
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zapplez posted:Alright which one of ya with the anime avatars did this? Of 42 documented seizures, 30 took place in Quebec. 
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Helsing posted:I have particular no reason to think this I just think it's a funnier version of events if behind the scenes the Canadian government and its servants were tripping over each others dicks trying to figure out which foreign government they want to keep happy. From what Dreylad has said about the mid-Century surveillance state, this is almost certainly spiritually true of the matter even if these exact events didn't happen.
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Chillyrabbit posted:The Bail conditions have her actively monitored with a surveillance detail, she is also supposed to have a electronic bracelet, physical check ins and is banned from the Richmond airport. I highly doubt she can easily flee, there are workarounds of course but she can't just fly out of the Richmond airport, she can't cross the Canada-US border to a different international airport, and she can't leave Vancouver/Richmond to fly somewhere else. Why fly when she can just get on a boat and be in international waters in a few hours? Do we even have any Navy or Coast Guard units near Vancouver or Vancouver island that could intercept a fast yacht making a run for open waters?
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Zeond posted:Why fly when she can just get on a boat and be in international waters in a few hours? Do we even have any Navy or Coast Guard units near Vancouver or Vancouver island that could intercept a fast yacht making a run for open waters? All our submarines at CFB Esquimalt 
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leftist heap posted:All our submarines at CFB Esquimalt I know you joke but even when not on fire the sub's max speed is a paltry 12 knots on the surface and 20 submerged. Good luck catching a 30+ knot fast yacht. Obviously aircraft can intercept but unless we're willing to shoot at what so far has been a non-violent suspect we will need to get law enforcement officers on the hopefully hypothetical getaway yacht. Maybe we finally found an use for the fast ferries? Zeond fucked around with this message at 20:46 on Dec 12, 2018 |
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Zeond posted:I know you joke but even when not on fire the sub's max speed is a paltry 12 knots on the surface and 20 submerged. Good luck catching a 30+ knot fast yacht. Wait how is the sub slower on the surface than submerged? or has my super outdated WW2 sub knowledge not carried over to the modern day. Which was on the surface you can use your high powered diesel engine vs underwater you have to go on battery which traditionally had been slower. Is there better drag coefficient when you're underwater?
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Chillyrabbit posted:Wait how is the sub slower on the surface than submerged? or has my super outdated WW2 sub knowledge not carried over to the modern day. Yes. Modern subs are designed to be faster underwater. Comes down mostly to hull shape and a snorkel that can be deployed at shallow depths to allow use of diesels. More modern non-nuclear subs have air independent propulsion systems to eliminate the snorkel.
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Zeond posted:I know you joke but even when not on fire the sub's max speed is a paltry 12 knots on the surface and 20 submerged. Good luck catching a 30+ knot fast yacht. why would they call the submarines hunter-killers if they can't hunt and kill a mere civilian yacht?? otherwise the Halifax frigates can do 30+ knots and are equipped with missiles and a 57mm cannon if that doesn't work out
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ChairMaster posted:Canada has no business pretending to be relevant internationally in the first place, our job right now is to play nice with the literally demented person in charge of the country that is our boss. It might be a new boss soon. Theresa May could lose a confidence vote.
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infernal machines posted:OTOH we're doing it specifically at the behest of the Americans so that they can hold her as leverage in a trade war. Well obviously, but I'll take it anyways. But yeah, we normally wouldn't have the balls to piss off one master without being pressured by the other. I remember back when some CSIS spook (lol at mounties in the spy game) tried to raise an alarm over how deeply compromised our political and business elites were regarding China. Nobody cared  James Baud posted:Hey hey. Maybe we could give her ten million in compensation after a decade in Gitmo! If her rights are violated while being innocent of the charges, then yes we would. vyelkin posted:This is a bad comparison and you should feel bad. Don't worry he'll edit it away in a few months or so
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leftist heap posted:why would they call the submarines hunter-killers if they can't hunt and kill a mere civilian yacht?? They were designed to hunt and kill (usually by ambush) other submarines. Modern diesel-electrics hunt by stealth more than speed as they can be even quieter than nukes as the cooling system for nuclear reactors cannot be shut down.
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A Typical Goon posted:Arresting someone is not 'disappearing' them lmao What arrest? https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/china-says-it-has-no-information-on-detained-ex-canadian-diplomat-1.4214443
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Blood Boils posted:Well obviously, but I'll take it anyways. But yeah, we normally wouldn't have the balls to piss off one master without being pressured by the other. I remember back when some CSIS spook (lol at mounties in the spy game) tried to raise an alarm over how deeply compromised our political and business elites were regarding China. Nobody cared The proxy wars fought over Canada are going to be so badass.
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sitchensis posted:The proxy wars fought over Canada are going to be so badass. the chinese would treat the natives better than we do so im all for it
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