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goomsnarr posted:Theresa May survived the vote of no confidence; 200 - 117. It's fine (and actually worse for her than I expected, it ain't a good result). The next step of the chaos is when all this dancing around Europe trying to get a new deal on the Brexit falls apart.. tomorrow or later this week. 50/50 The opposition calls for a no confidence vote in the government. Which they'd win given the chance.
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LingcodKilla posted:What the hell we are jerking the welcome mat from under war refugees some of which fought for us? It's not quite that horrible, it's lumping non-US citizen Vietnamese in with every other non-US citizen who becomes deportable through having a criminal conviction. Still lovely because the deportation criteria for criminal convictions are too broad and don't allow for any discretion.
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Hot Karl Marx posted:the writers should bring back hopey
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joat mon posted:It doesn't apply to war refugees that haven't gotten convicted for criminal law violations. Re-read the article, that's what I thought at first, but that was the initial compromise they reached with Vietnam. They've reversed course and now it's all refugees covered under that program that are eligible for deportation. Quoting the relevent part here, quote:When it first decided to reinterpret the 2008 deal, Donald Trump’s administration argued that only pre-1995 arrivals with criminal convictions were exempt from the agreement’s protection and eligible for deportation. Vietnam initially conceded and accepted some of those immigrants before stiffening its resistance; about a dozen Vietnamese immigrants ended up being deported from the United States. The August decision to change course, reported to a California court in October, appeared to put such moves at least temporarily on ice, but the latest shift leaves the fate of a larger number of Vietnamese immigrants in doubt. Now all pre-1995 arrivals are exempt from the 2008 agreement’s protection. Handsome Ralph fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Dec 12, 2018 |
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My great-great-grandfather emigrated to the US after he stole a horse, does that mean I'm getting sent back to Germany? 
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Didn’t trumps grandfather break a law?
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One of my close friends is the daughter of Hmong refugees and still only has a green card after doing six years in the marines, it's time to start killing people.
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LingcodKilla posted:Didn’t trumps grandfather break a law? trumps grandpa made the family fortune by making a large chain of brothels his dad, fred christ trump, made the family fortune bigger by making a series of racist-rear end housing developments in nyc we know about the orange one
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bob dobbs is dead posted:trumps grandpa made the family fortune by making a large chain of brothels
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white collar crimes should be the only crimes punishable by death
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Trump hasn't tweeted for 10 hours, dude's shook
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Proud Christian Mom posted:white collar crimes should be the only crimes punishable by death not emptyquoting
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my kinda ape posted:not emptyquoting
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barron, take a memo dear diary i was too upset to even sit at my desk and make stankface today dictated but not read alright get out of here kid
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shame on an IGA posted:One of my close friends is the daughter of Hmong refugees and still only has a green card after doing six years in the marines, it's time to start killing people. Someone hosed her over pretty good. I got my green card, enlisted, and I think it was like 6 weeks into basic training I was thrown in the duty van with a bunch of other immigrants and taken off to a federal court house to swear in. I mean, it's a joke to expect marines to really look after their people, but my poo poo got started after filling in a form at reception with a chaplain for fucks sake. When you're in the military it's a special expedited process and almost no work at all for the military to process it, literally no cost, and then you've got someone eligible for a clearance after its all done.
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EBB posted:barron, take a memo Nah, very busy with all this https://twitter.com/POTUS_Schedule/status/1072847381098586113 Infrastructure stuff?
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Today I learned that Trump's dad's middle name was Christ 
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Wingnut Ninja posted:Nah, very busy with all this The WHORC
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Handsome Ralph posted:Re-read the article, that's what I thought at first, but that was the initial compromise they reached with Vietnam. They've reversed course and now it's all refugees covered under that program that are eligible for deportation. There were 750,000 to 1,000,000 Vietnamese immigrants to the US from 1975 to 1995. Trump's change in deportation policy applies only to the 5000 or so of that much larger number who have gotten deportable criminal convictions. Read The 2008 agreement. The pre-1995 Vietnamese that we're talking about were and are all in the US legally. However, they are not US citizens. As such, they can have their ability to remain in the US legally taken away if they are convicted of a broad range of crimes. The 2008 agreement exempts pre-1995 non-citizen but legally-in-the-US Vietnamese from the same deportation process that applies to every other legally-in-the-US non-citizen. The normal deportation process (in this context) is that if a non-US citizen is convicted of any of a broad range of crimes, they become eligible for deportation and will be deported in the normal, though slow, course of events. The policy basis for the 2008 agreement was essentially that Vietnam said, "We don't want those assholes who fought against us and then went and then committed crimes in your county to come back to Vietnam," and the US said, "You know, we really kind of hosed those people over during the war, sending them back to the country they fought against on our behalf would be really lovely of us. We don't care that they committed crimes here in the US in this instance, they can stay even though they're deportable." For example, the 2008 agreement sets of the procedures for post-1995 deportations: quote:Removable Persons and Conditions of Acceptance b: from Vietnam? c: being deported (removed) for breaking US law? d: finished their sentence? If all 4, Vietnam will take back their citizens. A standard removal agreement. However, section 2, having to do with pre-1995 deportations/removals is different: quote:Removable Persons and Conditions of Acceptance e: To correct the quote from the article: quote:When it first decided to reinterpret the 2008 deal, Donald Trump’s administration argued that only pre-1995 arrivals with criminal convictions were exempt from the agreement’s protection and eligible for deportation. Vietnam initially conceded and accepted some of those immigrants before stiffening its resistance; about a dozen Vietnamese immigrants ended up being deported from the United States. The August decision to change course, reported to a California court in October, appeared to put such moves at least temporarily on ice, but the latest shift leaves the fate of a larger number of Vietnamese immigrants in doubt. Now all pre-1995 arrivals [with criminal convictions] are exempt from the 2008 agreement’s protection. ee: Vietnam can still say, "Bite me, we're not taking them back" which will set up a diplomatic pissing contest. Still lovely. joat mon fucked around with this message at 01:06 on Dec 13, 2018 |
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I stand corrected then, but yeah, still incredibly lovely.
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Current event, Trump thought Bruce Wayne was real:
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Mr Wayne, I heard about your familys death at the hand of ms13 gangsters, tragic just tragic.
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LingcodKilla posted:Didn’t trumps grandfather break a law? I think I read somewhere that he dodged his mandatory service in Germany or something like that.
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Jokers Gamble posted:I think I read somewhere that he dodged his mandatory service in Germany or something like that. What's bone spurs in German?
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https://twitter.com/PoliticsReid/status/1072491731818557442 Sad day for American liberty in the hinterlands
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psydude posted:What's bone spurs in German? Drumpf
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Nick Soapdish posted:https://twitter.com/PoliticsReid/status/1072491731818557442 Pregame. Duh. Or just don't go somewhere people are haphazardly throwing axes.
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Nick Soapdish posted:https://twitter.com/PoliticsReid/status/1072491731818557442 I went to a birthday party at one of those places. I'm amazed there aren't constant injuries.
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Nick Soapdish posted:https://twitter.com/PoliticsReid/status/1072491731818557442 lol the one near me set their own 3 beer limit but also cuts you off if you're even slightly drunk and their people are always snooping around the lanes to make sure the rules get followed works out fairly well, there's like 8 decent bars within a couple blocks in any direction so if you wanted to throw some axes and then drink proper it's not like you have to get another ride but who knows how it'll get if they drop one in a less dense area.
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Jokers Gamble posted:I think I read somewhere that he dodged his mandatory service in Germany or something like that. And was deported from Germany for it. (But he was already a US citizen by that time)
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joat mon posted:And was deported from Germany for it. (But he was already a US citizen by that time) Avoiding mandatory military service runs in the family.
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USA is loving garbage and I don't know how anyone could even be proud to ~have served~ at this point.
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mods changed my name posted:USA is loving garbage and I don't know how anyone could even be proud to ~have served~ at this point. excuse me sir but liberty and freedom ain't free
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Just remember https://twitter.com/ChipChantry/status/725386496564445184
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TF CURES GENERATOR posted:The only thing I can say in Newt's favour is he wants a moon base The cool kids won’t let him into theirs.
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