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Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Lu bu's got a four bladed glaive and buttrock starts blasting whenever he's in combat

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Bloodly
Nov 3, 2008

Not as strong as you'd expect.
Gods, I'm picturing somebody using bits from Warhammer coding combined with DW8 Xiao Qiao to make her/her unit a flyer.

Chortles
Dec 29, 2008

Agean90 posted:

Lu bu's got a four bladed glaive and buttrock starts blasting whenever he's in combat
'Unfortunately' we've already seen his double-sided halberd.

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


Chortles posted:

'Unfortunately' we've already seen his double-sided halberd.

Those peacock feathers are nowhere near long enough, shameful

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Personally I don't care for Dynasty Warriors and I'm glad for a take on Ancient Chinese history that isn't subsumed by Japanese Anime aesthetics.

alex314
Nov 22, 2007

Do you even wonder what kind of idiot pays 100€ extra for a resin statue and an artbook? This kind.. :shepspends:
I hope TW:3K doesn't suck...

bean mom
Jan 30, 2009

alex314 posted:

Do you even wonder what kind of idiot pays 100€ extra for a resin statue and an artbook? This kind.. :shepspends:
I hope TW:3K doesn't suck...

YOU SHOULDNT HAVE TOLD ME THERE WAS ONE

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY DIFFERENT TRANSLATIONS OF THE NOVEL I HAVE???

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

alex314 posted:

Do you even wonder what kind of idiot pays 100€ extra for a resin statue and an artbook? This kind.. :shepspends:
I hope TW:3K doesn't suck...

If you count the warhammer/tw crossover fans...

Hey at least the statue comes assembled

Rockopolis
Dec 21, 2012

I MAKE FUN OF QUEER STORYGAMES BECAUSE I HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO DO WITH MY LIFE THAN MAKE OTHER PEOPLE CRY

I can't understand these kinds of games, and not getting it bugs me almost as much as me being weird
I've been playing a lot of Attila recently, and I'm disappointed there's not more to do with immigration. I've resettled or conquered most of Eastern Europe Western Iran and covered it in Fire Temples, but the disorder penalty in the border provinces from the refugees fleeing the Huns is tying down all my armies. It doesn't look like there's any way to redirect them towards the Asoristan or Spahan where they'd be more useful, which is a shame because I'd really like to build "better than Antioch, Khosrow built this".

Chortles
Dec 29, 2008

Zyla posted:

YOU SHOULDNT HAVE TOLD ME THERE WAS ONE

DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY DIFFERENT TRANSLATIONS OF THE NOVEL I HAVE???
Poor you!

Oh, and make that one playable warlord to go now that Yuan Shu is in; here's the most recent map of the playable warlords' starting positions.

Mechanics-wise his main gimmick is a Legitimacy gauge; both he and Yuan Shao spend theirs to recruit characters but higher Legitimacy instead grants Yuan Shu more income and prestige, the latter of which helps him advance up the faction ranks to culminate in trying to self-proclaim himself emperor, and he can further accrue Legitimacy by successfully demanding that another faction leader support his claim(s). As a faction leader he grants a bonus to commerce and industry incomes, and "Characters in Yuan Shu’s faction also have access to a unique assignment that requires some financial investment up front but then provides a significant bonus to income over time."

Difficulty-wise, as a faction leader Creative Assembly didn't see fit to highlight any positive relationships, even with his wife, and his starting position of Nanyang commandery borders both Liu Biao west of him in Xiangyang and Cao Cao east of him in Chen, and he's next door to Luoyang which doesn't give him much room from Dong Zhuo. Finally, his initial dilemma is the other side of Liu Biao and Sun Jian's respective dilemmas, whether to back Sun Jian against Liu Biao or not.

TheFlyingLlama
Jan 2, 2013

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and be a llama?



there's gonna be what, one more starting faction, right? If it isn't Liu Yan, there's a lot of land for Ma Teng/ the Liang warlords to fight for.


and if the last one is Liu Yan poor Gongsun Zan lol

Chortles
Dec 29, 2008

TheFlyingLlama posted:

there's gonna be what, one more starting faction, right? If it isn't Liu Yan, there's a lot of land for Ma Teng/ the Liang warlords to fight for.
Mind you the same goes for Sun Jian with the southeast where there's seemingly even more room for him to expand without running into one of the other playable warlords; I'd also add that the campaign starts with Ma Teng allied to Dong Zhuo.

TheFlyingLlama posted:

and if the last one is Liu Yan poor Gongsun Zan lol
It's been looking like it comes down to Gongsun Zan or Dong Zhuo, but the latter has an Intimidation mechanic.

Gay Horney
Feb 10, 2013

by Reene
dong z will be an eight to eleven dollar dlc

The Doomhammer
Feb 14, 2010



AMBITIOUS

POWEMONGER

Typo aside, I'm definitely gonna start with Yuan Shu so when I inevitably get wrecked because I am bad at these games, it will be the true Yuan Shu experience.

bean mom
Jan 30, 2009

The Doomhammer posted:



AMBITIOUS

POWEMONGER

Typo aside, I'm definitely gonna start with Yuan Shu so when I inevitably get wrecked because I am bad at these games, it will be the true Yuan Shu experience.

in all this time pondering his moves i still dont understand how he thought his play would work out

TheFlyingLlama
Jan 2, 2013

You really think someone would do that? Just go on the internet and be a llama?



Zyla posted:

in all this time pondering his moves i still dont understand how he thought his play would work out

the short answer is that he was dumb. The longer answer is that he thought the Sun clique was actually loyal to him instead of Sun Ce.

Bloodly
Nov 3, 2008

Not as strong as you'd expect.
He thought himself far more secure than he was. There's an article I read one time trying to look at the reasoning.

https://the-archlich.tumblr.com/post/160910433962

Koramei
Nov 11, 2011

I have three regrets
The first is to be born in Joseon.
even if this game turns out to be bad I'm excited for it because it'll actually make me aware of things like:

quote:

Yuan Shu’s name has become synonymous with arrogance

rather than me having no clue what any of you are talking about.

Ramayana Total War next please

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Honestly you can know who almost every character and reference shown so far in this game just by reading the first 10 or so chapters of Rot3K. The book moves at a fairly quick pace.

bean mom
Jan 30, 2009

Mantis42 posted:

Honestly you can know who almost every character and reference shown so far in this game just by reading the first 10 or so chapters of Rot3K. The book moves at a fairly quick pace.

yeah, its almost enough that its kinda weird in some regards as to the time they chose to start, but it's probably the most wide open era for sure

you couldnt do a three faction total war in 2019

The Doomhammer
Feb 14, 2010

Most of the interesting stuff happens before the three kingdoms solidify anyway, you mostly have Zhuge Liang poking north a bunch until he dies and then its 'okay let's fast forward through the next 50 years i guess" while everyone forgets Wu exists until it gets conquered.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
Maybe it is just me but I am looking forward to three kingdoms just for a chance to wreck shu for being a bunch of self righteous assholes in the dynasty warrior games.

Chortles
Dec 29, 2008
… I was not ready for the concept of swolebro xia Yuan Shu. :staredog:

I gotta say, with how much that Tumblr and Wikipedia emphasized that Sun Jian and in particular Sun Ce were Yuan Shu's subordinates, in the latter case even throughout his "Little Conqueror" years all the way up until the self-proclamation of emperor, I'm kinda wondering (hoping?) if Classic Mode will reflect this via a different campaign start and relationships (both between factions and characters), e.g. Sun Jian/Ce being Yuan Shu's vassal despite the major faction thing instead of being independent warlords as in the Romance of the Three Kingdoms titles.

Mantis42 posted:

Honestly you can know who almost every character and reference shown so far in this game just by reading the first 10 or so chapters of Rot3K. The book moves at a fairly quick pace.
Or as previously mentioned, the podcast! Like I said, the current campaign start is set at about podcast episode 9.

Hunt11 posted:

Maybe it is just me but I am looking forward to three kingdoms just for a chance to wreck shu for being a bunch of self righteous assholes in the dynasty warrior games.
… what would you say if I told you that the Peach Garden Oath brothers don't actually hold any commanderies at the start of the campaign and appear to be a Warhammer 2-style horde?

shalcar
Oct 21, 2009

At my signal, DEAL WITH IT.
Taco Defender
Thrones of Britannia has a new major patch coming out next week with some interesting changes that look to keep polishing it up into something truly unique:

https://www.totalwar.com/blog/the-steel-statecraft-update

Nobles now have varying impacts on the estates they manage and are more sensible in how they want to get them, while recruitment has been shifted to a number of turns per unit into the pool instead of a percentage chance to roll one per turn. They also added a trait browser that lets you see any given trait in the game, but ONLY if you have had it in any of your games so it slowly fills out like a stamp collection. The villages now can pick either of their specialisations when upgrading them from level 2, instead of at level 4. Also a bunch of new art assets in the maps and several new settlement maps as well.

I've been very impressed with how far Thrones of Britannia came from release and while I didn't think it needed even more polish now, it's certainly nice that it's getting it.

e: It's also 33% off on Steam right now, which is a great price!

John Charity Spring
Nov 4, 2009

SCREEEEE
Yeah it's in a real good place I think. It suffers next to the sheer exuberant excess of TW Warhammer but it's a great game in its own right.

toasterwarrior
Nov 11, 2011
I had to skip ToB because money's tight but I'm glad they're using it as a testing bed for bringing back the estate/deed mechanics from MTW1 and all other sorts of systems to add depth to the strategy layer. poo poo's real cool.

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo

Hunt11 posted:

Maybe it is just me but I am looking forward to three kingdoms just for a chance to wreck shu for being a bunch of self righteous assholes in the dynasty warrior games.

That sounds malevolent.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


I don't get why they haven't released MOD tools for ToB yet, the community is pretty much dead now which is a shame because there were some promising looking mods planned for it.

I appreciate the large amount of post launch support theyr doing but I played it just a couple weeks ago and it's still devoid of fun for me. Least fun out of all the TWs imo

ninjahedgehog
Feb 17, 2011

It's time to kick the tires and light the fires, Big Bird.


Chortles posted:

what would you say if I told you that the Peach Garden Oath brothers don't actually hold any commanderies at the start of the campaign and appear to be a Warhammer 2-style horde?

That's actually the first thing I've heard so far that would make me actually want to play them. Conquering your own dominion from nothing sounds pretty loving badass, in fact

E: only if Liu Bei gets to dual-wield swords like he does in the novel, though

EDIT2: According to this if you don't have a son you can pick one of your brothers to be your heir instead, so uh, goodbye lame holier-than-thou Liu Bei Shu, hello drunken partying Zhang Fei Shu

ninjahedgehog fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Dec 13, 2018

Bloodly
Nov 3, 2008

Not as strong as you'd expect.
That doesn't bode well, given Xiahou Ji.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?
One day I'll pick of THROB, but given that I'm poor, I'll stick to Age of Charlemagne and hope that someday CA decides to go back and patch up Attila rather than abandoning it.

turn off the TV
Aug 4, 2010

moderately annoying

Hentai Jihadist posted:

I don't get why they haven't released MOD tools for ToB yet, the community is pretty much dead now which is a shame because there were some promising looking mods planned for it.

I appreciate the large amount of post launch support theyr doing but I played it just a couple weeks ago and it's still devoid of fun for me. Least fun out of all the TWs imo

I'm pretty sure that CA did release some tools for the game, I remember poking around the map editor a while back to see what it could do.

Chortles
Dec 29, 2008

ninjahedgehog posted:

E: only if Liu Bei gets to dual-wield swords like he does in the novel, though
Possibly? In Romance Mode he's got the swords but Zhuge Liang has the fan even though he as a Strategist can't accept or issue duelist's challenges.

Azran
Sep 3, 2012

And what should one do to be remembered?
I assume characters can fight even out of duels so it would make sense to give strategists a weapon.

Chortles
Dec 29, 2008

Azran posted:

I assume characters can fight even out of duels so it would make sense to give strategists a weapon.
Poorly afaik relative to the other four classes; I think I saw Jia Xu manage to get killed in an Ambush of Sun Ren video when the player charged Sun Ren and her shock cavalry at Jia Xu's flank (he was with a pair of Archer Militia in/behind the treeline) only for the AI to plunge Jia Xu towards/into the roadside melee where Sun Quan had already thwarted his infantry charge.

Fuligin
Oct 27, 2010

wait what the fuck??

I played 3K at pax west and heck, it was pretty good. The UI really felt like a step up from Warhammer

Chortles
Dec 29, 2008
The siege or the ambush?

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer

Chortles posted:

what would you say if I told you that the Peach Garden Oath brothers don't actually hold any commanderies at the start of the campaign and appear to be a Warhammer 2-style horde?

That just makes them even more interesting to crush.

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

That sounds malevolent.

The further I get away from what Liu Bei believes is benevolent the better.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Hordes are the funnest factions by far. Nothing but non stop battles and loot

AND I get Guan Yu??

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underage at the vape shop
May 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
Is atilla bad enough to not get? The battle aesthetic is really cool.

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