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Alaois posted:you could easily explain why flying cars aren't prevalent in the Marvel universe by saying that flying cars are a loving awful idea that was swiftly abandoned the first time someone actually tried it Imagine if every car collision was a fatal drop to the ground below!
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There's no cancer cure in Marvel. That's pretty hard canon. They needed a disease that could whack superheroes and that superheroes couldn't magic away, and they made it cancer. It killed Captain Marvel, even.
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Dec 14, 2018 17:19
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RiotGearEpsilon posted:There's no cancer cure in Marvel. That's pretty hard canon. They needed a disease that could whack superheroes and that superheroes couldn't magic away, and they made it cancer. It killed Captain Marvel, even. Wakanda canonically has a cure for cancer that they don't share. In the actual The Death of Captain Marvel graphic novel, the super scientists come up with a cure of Mar-Vell's cancer but he's already passed.
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Dec 14, 2018 17:21
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Elfface posted:In fairness, I think he gave the guy his personal phone number rather than a mad science thanatopic forecaster. Yeah, you're right, I mixed that up with the loving thought reading device he invented and put in the guy's ear so they can communicate while he dies.
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Dec 14, 2018 17:31
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Elfface posted:I do remember Ms Marvel being pretty decent at showing off advanced tech in civilian uses, like her school having 3d printers that can make robots, and her costume's size changing was a friend's chemistry project.
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Dec 14, 2018 17:46
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Dec 14, 2018 17:53
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Keromaru5 posted:Didn't Peter Parker just lose his fortune because someone invented an interdimensional plagiarism detector that showed his tech was "actually" invented by Otto Octavius (using Peter's body)? Why would that matter unless Otto had filed a patent under his own name? Newton still gets credit for calculus and Edison gets credit for the lightbulb.
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Dec 14, 2018 17:54
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Keromaru5 posted:Didn't Peter Parker just lose his fortune because someone invented an interdimensional plagiarism detector that showed his tech was "actually" invented by Otto Octavius (using Peter's body)? During Hydra Cap’s takeover of the country, Otto (now in a new cloned body of Parker) was working with Hydra and decided to take over Parker Industries, which to be fair kinda got elevated to greatness during his tenure as Parker. During this takeover attempt Peter decided to broadcast to everyone in the company that Hydra was trying to take everything so they should burn the company to the ground rather than let that happen. So they did and Parker Industries got destroyed from within.
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Dec 14, 2018 18:00
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I still love how one of the major plot points of Busiek's Avengers Forever was trying to explain why the gently caress does humanity not have spaceships and all this other amazing technology when they keep running into advanced aliens all the time.
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Dec 14, 2018 18:18
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:During Hydra Cap’s takeover of the country, Otto (now in a new cloned body of Parker) was working with Hydra and decided to take over Parker Industries, which to be fair kinda got elevated to greatness during his tenure as Parker. During this takeover attempt Peter decided to broadcast to everyone in the company that Hydra was trying to take everything so they should burn the company to the ground rather than let that happen. Alright, that's actually pretty cool. Peter was right.
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Dec 14, 2018 18:26
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Keromaru5 posted:Didn't Peter Parker just lose his fortune because someone invented an interdimensional plagiarism detector that showed his tech was "actually" invented by Otto Octavius (using Peter's body)? He lost his PhD, not his fortune. The fortune got lost as others have mentioned, during Secret Empire.
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Dec 14, 2018 19:00
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:During Hydra Cap’s takeover of the country, Otto (now in a new cloned body of Parker) was working with Hydra and decided to take over Parker Industries, which to be fair kinda got elevated to greatness during his tenure as Parker. During this takeover attempt Peter decided to broadcast to everyone in the company that Hydra was trying to take everything so they should burn the company to the ground rather than let that happen. now that's how you retcon a loving character development
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Dec 14, 2018 19:14
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TwoPair posted:He lost his PhD, not his fortune. The fortune got lost as others have mentioned, during Secret Empire. Ah, okay. Thanks for the clarification.
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Dec 14, 2018 19:25
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Alaois posted:you could easily explain why flying cars aren't prevalent in the Marvel universe by saying that flying cars are a loving awful idea that was swiftly abandoned the first time someone actually tried it I'm Nick Fury, and this man is right. There never has been flying cars, that idea was abandoned and not bought out by SHIELD along with the patent on jetpacks. There is no such thing, now this conversation should immediatly end, for no specific reason.
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Dec 14, 2018 19:36
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This isn't the Post The Most Depressing Set of Panels Ever thread.  I'm not some snowflake who demands trigger warnings on pictures of pomegranates, but sheesh, give us a heads up on that. (Sorry, I lost my mom to cancer a few years ago, I wasn't there for her death, and of course this time of year makes me weepy as gently caress. Gonna go look at "A dog... A barrel... Ridiculous!" now.)
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Dec 14, 2018 20:04
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Random Stranger posted:I tried to find a different comic book mad science funny panel but I couldn't find one quickly... 
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Dec 14, 2018 20:41
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Honestly, I care way less about why the various super-scientsts' work somehow doesn't change the world than I do about seeing them rub their bullshit in their colleagues' faces. Someone should do a one-shot comic about a day in the life of a scientist tasked with replicating one of Reed's negative q-space expirements whenever he publishes a paper.
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Dec 14, 2018 21:10
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Dec 14, 2018 21:18
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Reed used to be able to use his powers to turn into a teenager, but only for one panel at a time.
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Dec 14, 2018 22:18
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Are those panels from JMS' run? I know he was on FF during Civil War, and I don't know, they rub me the wrong way like a lot of his stuff does. Maybe this was Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa instead? EIther way. I've also lost loved ones to both cancer and suicide and the way that sympathy is set up and played with in those two scenes just feels off and of a piece with the "Grounded" fiasco with Superman awhile later-- a willingness to cloyingly manipulate the normative stakes of the superhero comic without really thinking them through, in a way that reifies the genre's unspoken and uncomfortable gulf between the "super" and the non-super. I want to reflexively compare the first scene in particular with the famous first pages of Grant Morrison's All-Star Superman-- very similar on paper, but where the Superman scene is about giving people the gentlest nudge to find tenacity and courage and hope in themselves, the FF scene feels overwritten and fussy, with Reed coming across as weirdly intrusive and Martin coming across as a caricatured wad of tragic tropes who exists just to show us how humane Mr. Fantastic is. "This poor schmuck-- good thing Reed Richards has deigned to grant him some of his precious time." It just feels-- I don't know-- condescending, almost disrespectful of death and grief.
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Dec 14, 2018 22:54
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What the hell is this about not having flying cars, SHIELD only uses flying cars 
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Dec 14, 2018 22:55
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joehonkie posted:Imagine if every car collision was a fatal drop to the ground below! "Check Hover Engine"? Bah, that's just a scam to make me pay for servicing more often.
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Dec 14, 2018 23:06
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Bruceski posted:"Check Hover Engine"? Bah, that's just a scam to make me pay for servicing more often. Our patented vector thrust coil gives the 01-Versatran the ability to sustain normal flight in the event of a catastrophic multi-engine failure. Versatran. It's the only choice.
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Dec 14, 2018 23:30
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Random Stranger posted:In the actual The Death of Captain Marvel graphic novel, the super scientists come up with a cure of Mar-Vell's cancer but he's already passed. They did a What If where they used that cure on Mar-Vell and it didn't work out great. He seemed fine, but he started to unknowingly emit some kind of cancerous virus wherever he went. The upside was that he inadvertently ended the Kree-Skrull War.
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Dec 14, 2018 23:39
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Archyduchess posted:Are those panels from JMS' run? I know he was on FF during Civil War, and I don't know, they rub me the wrong way like a lot of his stuff does. Maybe this was Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa instead? EIther way. I've also lost loved ones to both cancer and suicide and the way that sympathy is set up and played with in those two scenes just feels off and of a piece with the "Grounded" fiasco with Superman awhile later-- a willingness to cloyingly manipulate the normative stakes of the superhero comic without really thinking them through, in a way that reifies the genre's unspoken and uncomfortable gulf between the "super" and the non-super. Pretty sure it's Hickman's run. It sorta reminds me of when Muhammad Ali talked the guy down from a ledge in the 80's.
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Gavok posted:They did a What If where they used that cure on Mar-Vell and it didn't work out great. He seemed fine, but he started to unknowingly emit some kind of cancerous virus wherever he went. The upside was that he inadvertently ended the Kree-Skrull War. There's also the universe where Cthulhu told Mar-Vell on his death bed how even Death may die and the superheroes then proceeded to gently caress the universe up by following that advice and saving him. The best of all possible universes are ones where Mar-Vell dies. Because then we get Monica Rambeau. 
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Dec 15, 2018 00:07
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I don't have the panel, but the one I always like for "Reed is an rear end in a top hat" is him reaching out to another science-guy for help, saying "Dr Pym(?), you're the foremost expert in biochemistry on the planet. It would take me several weeks to get as good as you are."
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darthbob88 posted:I don't have the panel, but the one I always like for "Reed is an rear end in a top hat" is him reaching out to another science-guy for help, saying "Dr Pym(?), you're the foremost expert in biochemistry on the planet. It would take me several weeks to get as good as you are." Not quite what you were asking for but... 
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Archyduchess posted:Are those panels from JMS' run? I know he was on FF during Civil War, and I don't know, they rub me the wrong way like a lot of his stuff does. Maybe this was Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa instead? EIther way. I've also lost loved ones to both cancer and suicide and the way that sympathy is set up and played with in those two scenes just feels off and of a piece with the "Grounded" fiasco with Superman awhile later-- a willingness to cloyingly manipulate the normative stakes of the superhero comic without really thinking them through, in a way that reifies the genre's unspoken and uncomfortable gulf between the "super" and the non-super. I think it's Roberto Aguirre-Sacara's Marvel Knights 4.
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I've said this too many times, probably in this very thread, but somewhere in that Venom series that starts off with an extended riff on John Carpenter's The Thing, Reed off-handedly mentions to Sue "oh yeah, I found these cool self-replicating spidery robots, they're extremely alien, not from any civilization we've contacted so far, but they're obviously builders." Sue says "Builders? What do they build?" Reed smirks and says "So far? Everything I tell them to."
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Dec 15, 2018 00:43
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He should be careful. Mike Nelson destroyed about two or three planets that way.
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Dec 15, 2018 00:53
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Keromaru5 posted:He should be careful. Mike Nelson destroyed about two or three planets that way. To be fair, he only destroyed ONE planet that way. The other two he destroyed in completely different ways.
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Dec 15, 2018 01:00
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Random Stranger posted:Not quite what you were asking for but... The pettiest poo poo is that he calls him Hank instead of Dr. Pym.
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Archyduchess posted:
The fact that there's absolute proof of a super awesome afterlife also undercuts the tragic death scene.
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Dec 15, 2018 09:04
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Thats a p ok comic bit
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Dec 15, 2018 09:58
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Wasn't there a Bendis comic where the Illuminati are meeting up and everyone greets Strange as Dr Strange and Reed as Dr Richards, then Tony complains that he has three doctorates and nobody ever addresses him as "Dr Stark"?
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Dec 15, 2018 10:14
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Wheat Loaf posted:Wasn't there a Bendis comic where the Illuminati are meeting up and everyone greets Strange as Dr Strange and Reed as Dr Richards, then Tony complains that he has three doctorates and nobody ever addresses him as "Dr Stark"? 
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Dec 15, 2018 10:19
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Unless he's some kind of Reed Richards superfan, I don't really see having a total stranger hanging out watching you die is much of a comfort.
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Esplanade posted:Unless he's some kind of Reed Richards superfan, I don't really see having a total stranger hanging out watching you die is much of a comfort. So there is this human fear about being completely alone while dying, and how Richard's machine literally ensures he will be with this man in his final moments. There was a road safety campaign here a few years ago that had testimony from people who came across car accidents. It's a huge relief for families of deceased to know that someone (even a stranger) was with their loved ones as they died, so they weren't alone.
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Huh, I'm not sure how I'd feel about that myself, but I suppose I'll find out soon enough. To lighten things up, here's the lighter side of vehicular homicide, courtesy of The EYE: 
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