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Chris Knight posted:was working on excel yesterday as per usual. went to filter a column using "october 2018" and it returned nothing. knowing this was impossible I went to edit the filter criteria and loving michaelsoft replaced what I entered with "oct-2018" the thing about excel though is every idiosyncratic behavior is so well known by the people who use it that any "correction" to "more correct" actions would make it worse to use. so many things about it are annoying in practice (no one has ever wanted to preserve source formatting on paste ever) but they should probably never be changed plus if you asked everyone who needs to use it daily what three changes theyd make youd get an endless list of pet peeves without any that rise to the level of worth changing
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LastInLine posted:the thing about excel though is every idiosyncratic behavior is so well known by the people who use it that any "correction" to "more correct" actions would make it worse to use. so many things about it are annoying in practice (no one has ever wanted to preserve source formatting on paste ever) but they should probably never be changed excel: balanced perfection
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Chris Knight posted:was working on excel yesterday as per usual. went to filter a column using "october 2018" and it returned nothing. knowing this was impossible I went to edit the filter criteria and loving michaelsoft replaced what I entered with "oct-2018" thicaelsoft
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LastInLine posted:the thing about excel though is every idiosyncratic behavior is so well known by the people who use it that any "correction" to "more correct" actions would make it worse to use. so many things about it are annoying in practice (no one has ever wanted to preserve source formatting on paste ever) but they should probably never be changed fixing anything in excel would be the #1 way to break absolutely everything built in excel
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infernal machines posted:fixing anything in excel would be the #1 way to break absolutely everything built in excel that is why it must be done, for the betterment of humanity
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PleasureKevin posted:VR will never be able to play “real games” because gamers are all no older than 12 years old and have never played anything less than current gen consoles and graphics cards. any game that’s a few years old or has decreased LOD settings is, i guess, not a real game.
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I went to a vr arcade a couple of weeks ago and the only things that made me nauseous were when one game lagged for a couple of seconds right at the start and when i was flying around and landed on solid ground. Free flying was completely fine. Didn't try any game where i needed to walk smoothly using a controller, just free flying and teleporting games.
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SupSuper posted:no amount of tech will get around the fact that our brains can only cope with cockpit experiences But enough about your mother.
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Wheany posted:I went to a vr arcade a couple of weeks ago and the only things that made me nauseous were when one game lagged for a couple of seconds right at the start and when i was flying around and landed on solid ground. Free flying was completely fine. the sick feeling definitely comes from any lag you experience. if the vr isn’t tracking your head movement consistently then it tends to induce motion sickness cause your brain isn’t quite sure why the environment isn’t moving with you at least that’s what I’ve learned from using one myself and having a few relatives use it. I/they didn’t notice feeling sick until the experience started lagging also for Microsoft content: a lot of the updates have sucked so far but the windows+v for the paste history has been genuinely helpful, plus windows+shift+s is now the new snipping tool which seems easier to use over the last version
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the biggie for the sick feeling is also anything in which you are "moving", because your eyes tell your brain to expect the sensation of movement but then it doesn't come because you're stationary. counteracting this requires some impossible setups like multi-directional conveyor belts and stuff like that.
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univbee posted:the biggie for the sick feeling is also anything in which you are "moving", because your eyes tell your brain to expect the sensation of movement but then it doesn't come because you're stationary. counteracting this requires some impossible setups like multi-directional conveyor belts and stuff like that. it doesn’t really need a complicated setup like that as long as you have a good sized space to dedicate to moving around. a lot of the vr stuff sold today have tracking sensors that will be able to set up a fenced in spot where you can move around although that’s if you have the space, and most require a good amount of space to allow you to move around, and you have to make sure the tracking sensors are on opposite sides or else you’ll just get weird tracking if you face away from them
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My Linux Rig posted:also for Microsoft content: a lot of the updates have sucked so far but the windows+v for the paste history has been genuinely helpful, plus windows+shift+s is now the new snipping tool which seems easier to use over the last version You can also bind it to the Print screen button in the Ease of access settings, pretty handy.
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My Linux Rig posted:the sick feeling definitely comes from any lag you experience. if the vr isn’t tracking your head movement consistently then it tends to induce motion sickness cause your brain isn’t quite sure why the environment isn’t moving with you there's a really good GDC talk on VR by a Disney Imagineer -- it turns out Disney never stopped messing around with VR since the original early 1990s iteration and they probably know more about the human part of the VR system than anybody. the tldw is that the brain is continuously integrating your different sensory inputs (and even time-delaying some of them or moving them backwards in time perceptually to sync up the different input latencies) and if any of these get out of sync for any reason your brain makes the natural and obvious assumption that your cognitive ability is operating at a degraded level because you have been poisoned and thus your stomach needs to be evacuated immediately https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEp1rq7VaiU (the other great takeaway from this talk is that the resolution of the human eye is 30 pixels per degree and UHD TVs are completely pointless)
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pseudorandom name posted:and if any of these get out of sync for any reason your brain makes the natural and obvious assumption that your cognitive ability is operating at a degraded level because you have been poisoned and thus your stomach needs to be evacuated immediately huh.
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pseudorandom name posted:there's a really good GDC talk on VR by a Disney Imagineer -- it turns out Disney never stopped messing around with VR since the original early 1990s iteration and they probably know more about the human part of the VR system than anybody. hah, that evolutionary reason for it is cool. Also that's interesting about human eye resolution.
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Lambert posted:You can also bind it to the Print screen button in the Ease of access settings, pretty handy.
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if you think higher pixel density is literally not visible to the human eye then open your phone to a white screen, place a hair lying across the screen, and see if you see the stairstepping around it
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Linguica posted:if you think higher pixel density is literally not visible to the human eye then open your phone to a white screen, place a hair lying across the screen, and see if you see the stairstepping around it phones are diff than tvs because of distance from the screen though right?
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My Linux Rig posted:it doesn’t really need a complicated setup like that as long as you have a good sized space to dedicate to moving around. a lot of the vr stuff sold today have tracking sensors that will be able to set up a fenced in spot where you can move around the other thing is it varies widely by person. I don't have any problems with being in vr for a long time, but ive had other people on my vr setup who just cant deal with some games because of all the movement.
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pseudorandom name posted:Disney Imagineer when did they get their P.I.?
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Last Chance posted:phones are diff than tvs because of distance from the screen though right? 1) Nothing appears to the optic nerve or visual cortex to be narrower than one minute of arc, not two. At least, still. If your image is always in motion you might be able to get away with 30 pixels per degree or some crap. But always is a strong word. 2) Point-like and line-like objects that are thinner than one minute of arc tend to either: if they're brighter than their surroundings, look that size but dimmer than they would close in, or if they're dimmer, get drowned out by the brighter surroundings. At UHD-1 (aka "4K") you finally get to the point where a handful of permanently dim pixels are actually missable, and occasionally/situationally even permanently semibright pixels. Permanently bright pixels and many defective pixels are still A Problem. 3) Brightness and color have different 'raw' resolutions and are nothing like your monitor because the arrangement of cells on the retina is amorphous, with the cones unevenly diffuse among the rods. there's more, i am not an optometrist or anything, but those are the standouts, and they explain why people would still care about antialiasing or font smoothing or other anti-jagged-line stuff at high resolutions (though you could get away with sloppy aa at this point, as long as you include alpha textures) but come on, someone post img-hdtv-resolution-distance-chart the one where the colors for 'this resolution appropriate' are triangles hastily line-tooled in way smaller than the actual areas they refer to so we can all laugh at it
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dont be mean to me posted:but come on, someone post img-hdtv-resolution-distance-chart fiiiine 
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reminds me that japan started 8k broadcasting a few weeks ago. they started strong with an 8k transfer of 2001: A Space Odyssey, and will also do My Fair Lady in February IIRC. Both "work" because they were filmed on 70mm film, but only like 50 english movies have been filmed this way what's fun is since the upgraded hdmi standard that can handle 8k isn't finalized yet, the setup involves 4 hdmi cables each sending a quarter of the screen at 4k resolution
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Wheany posted:fiiiine iirc, this was originally made by avsforum people who were real mad that they spent thousands on top-of-the-line 720p displays right before 1080p panels started shipping
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Carlton Bale, Christian Bale’s sweater-loving cousin with the funky dance
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The_Franz posted:iirc, this was originally made by avsforum people who were real mad that they spent thousands on top-of-the-line 720p displays right before 1080p panels started shipping avsforum is so great. no matter what product youre researching every one has some invisible to everyone else but for them absolutely impossible to miss flaws that completely ruins it. theres no such thing as good enough ever in any circumstance and all discussion never touches anything a normal person would care about like the user interface or how it is in use but instead centers around entirely subjective qualities that only the most discerning aficionado could appreciate (so its a good thing they all are one!) it was particularly fun to read as home entertainment went from being an expensive hobby in the 90s with actual meaningful differences across the price range to being entirely commoditized and available to anyone with a few hundred bucks and an interest in doing so today. they are so bitter about how something that used to be exclusively theirs is now obtainable by anyone at a fraction of the cost and are so desperate to justify the amount of money theyve spent to be first that theyve completely disappeared up each others asses
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Bideo James are for literal childes and YOSPOS is an adults-only (18+) forum. I’m reporting each and every one of you! <  >
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LastInLine posted:avsforum is so great. no matter what product youre researching every one has some invisible to everyone else but for them absolutely impossible to miss flaws that completely ruins it. theres no such thing as good enough ever in any circumstance and all discussion never touches anything a normal person would care about like the user interface or how it is in use but instead centers around entirely subjective qualities that only the most discerning aficionado could appreciate (so its a good thing they all are one!) I bought my (45" 1080p) TV for 350-400 in a Walmart nearly ten years ago and while I was waiting for clerks to do who knows what (get a trolley from the back?) I was getting heckled by two different people for not spending enough and how the thing was crap and would suck and die immediately and and and. I only really remember the super Sony fan who pitied my Sanyo and at some point carried on into discussing movies that were for sale because he was looking to buy a DVD to watch that night. After I praised some recent action movie in particular he bought whatever one was beside it instead because my TV purchase showed that I obviously had terrible taste. Overall, a 9 or 10/10 for entertaining irascibility.
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El_Elegante posted:Carlton Bale, Christian Bale’s sweater-loving cousin with the funky dance
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i did a dumb thing and bought a surface pro 6. i'd been considering it since i don't like the direction apple is going with their macs and the ipads pro (in terms of cost for the latter), and thought the weird hybrid thing would be a good middle point, and man, it's just not. like, it's not a bad device by any means, but it doesn't really work well as a laptop since the kickstand isn't really a good replacement for a solid keyboard and hinge sitting on your lap (the keyboard is probably better than current MBPs, though), and the touchpad is lacking a bunch of gestures and seems *really* sensitive - a light brush can cause an unintended click. it doesn't work well as a tablet since windows 10 is ill-suited for it, and the on-screen keyboard doesn't always pop up when you want it, nor does it always disappear when you want it. battery life seems *okay*, but not great. i was going to take it on my christmas vacation and decide afterward, but i think i'm just going to return it since it doesn't really seem like what i want.
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Endless Mike posted:i did a dumb thing and bought a surface lol
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i know! 
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they should really remove the cortana bullshit from the new windows computer setup process
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pointsofdata posted:they should really remove the cortana bullshit from the new windows computer setup process https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rp2rhM8YUZY
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At least you should have bought 5 instead, it actually has a GPU
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Endless Mike posted:i know!
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surface out of an rear end! yeah!!
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there's a scattering of surfaces amongst upper management here and they are the flakiest computers i've run into since i was at a school district that bought Gateway computers. weird hardware glitches, inexplicable slowdowns, and the occasional straight-up failure. we had one that got caught in a weird circle-error boot loop that completely puzzled the microsoft store in portland - they had to consult their internal chat and be told that it was an indicator of a firmware problem. seriously we have a whole fleet of dell laptops and they don't have anywhere near the issues these drat surfaces do. and of course the goddamn surface warranty is only like one or two years! don't buy surfaces, don't let your friends buy surfaces, for christ sake please do not burden your local computer janitors with surfaces anywya, that's my story. thanks and "god bless",
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lol that school district got reamed so hard too, they kept buying gateway through the split/acquisition when acer bought gateway home and MPC bought gateway "business", and kept buying right up until shortly before gateway mpc went bankrupt. no more warranty support on all those systems you bought five years' warranty for! owned
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