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FlamingLiberal posted:Why do these morons keep thinking they can outplay Mueller Because they think everyone else is as stupid as Republicans think they are.
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Rich Uncle Chet posted:Trump's spent his entire life and career being so absurdly privileged that the consequences of things have never mattered to him? I also think Trump really believed that as President he could just squash anyone's attempts to investigate what he was doing. He had an incredibly naive concept of what the role of President was and how the federal government and courts worked.
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/jamiedupree/status/1073673895155302400 Depends. They will gently caress over those directly responsible and maybe restaff the place but nothing else.
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Rudy may be my favorite character in this never ending parade of dunces.
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Guze posted:Rudy may be my favorite character in this never ending parade of dunces. We can only pray that we get a Jeb/Guilliani 2020 ticket out of all this mess.
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Guze posted:Rudy may be my favorite character in this never ending parade of dunces. what sort of monster wouldn't pick Carter Page
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DaveWoo posted:https://twitter.com/jamiedupree/status/1073673895155302400 That seems like something that should be getting manslaughter or murder charges, not an internal investigation by an organization that likely is mostly.meant to deal with financial crimes...
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Does "ignorance of the law is not an excuse" apply only to the poor and nonwhite?
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Madkal posted:My dad does this all the time when we try to discuss climate change. First he says "well if you believe in it why are still driving a car". When my wife and I explain to him that we take public transit more and more and only drive the car for long distances where transit isn't available he goes into saying "well you shouldn't be buying anything because things are delivered to stores using trucks" etc. Pretty much the argument is if you care so much about this subject why aren't you removing yourself from society altogether? Are you a hypocrite? So your dad is the "nothing gets past this guy" guy.
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Groovelord Neato posted:here's the video of napolitano on fox & friends and it's funny seeing him knock down all their defenses of trump. Jesus, these guys trying so hard to compare this to Obama by name dropping Rev. Wright to try and resurrect that 'controversy'. Just trying to defend the indefensible because it came from team R.
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Serfer posted:Does "ignorance of the law is not an excuse" apply only to the poor and nonwhite? Whether they knew it was crime or not when it was committed is irrelevant because of the coverup. They very obviously knew they did something wrong because of it, and never came clean
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Popehat thread that's helpful to us everyday working schmoes rather than, say, people getting investigated by the FBI for committing literally all the crimes: https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/1073632451929432069
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GreyjoyBastard posted:what sort of monster wouldn't pick Carter Page I like whoever it was with the ostrich-skin suit, because if you're going to be a cartoon supervillian, you may as well be ostentatious about it. Really though, I think the suit itself is my favorite character.
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CuddleCryptid posted:Whether they knew it was crime or not when it was committed is irrelevant because of the coverup. They very obviously knew they did something wrong because of it, and never came clean yeah they kinda hosed themselves by constantly lying about not making the payments. you don't get to go "well i did but it's not illegal! i lied about making the payments for no reason!" https://twitter.com/cd_hooks/status/1073683229184380928
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Serfer posted:Does "ignorance of the law is not an excuse" apply only to the poor and nonwhite? "I didn't know the crimes were against the law, which, by the way, I have heard from greatly smart people, that they are not crimes. So even if they were against the law and I did them, they're not crimes." - Trump probably
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Groovelord Neato posted:here's the video of napolitano on fox & friends and it's funny seeing him knock down all their defenses of trump. Countdown to the same people who shared videos of Napolitano "destroying Hillary" or whatever sharing some Breitbart piece exposing him as a secret Democrat
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Madkal posted:My dad does this all the time when we try to discuss climate change. First he says "well if you believe in it why are still driving a car". When my wife and I explain to him that we take public transit more and more and only drive the car for long distances where transit isn't available he goes into saying "well you shouldn't be buying anything because things are delivered to stores using trucks" etc. Pretty much the argument is if you care so much about this subject why aren't you removing yourself from society altogether? Are you a hypocrite? That sucks, man. I think I take my communist feminist dad for granted. I complain about having to occasionally explain that certain words are no longer polite but the man's old enough to have an FBI file for celebrating earth day for god's sake
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Madkal posted:My dad does this all the time when we try to discuss climate change. First he says "well if you believe in it why are still driving a car". When my wife and I explain to him that we take public transit more and more and only drive the car for long distances where transit isn't available he goes into saying "well you shouldn't be buying anything because things are delivered to stores using trucks" etc. Pretty much the argument is if you care so much about this subject why aren't you removing yourself from society altogether? Are you a hypocrite? Because eco-friendly martyrdom by one person isn't even an inconvenience when split between ten people.
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RiggenBlaque posted:I also think Trump really believed that as President he could just squash anyone's attempts to investigate what he was doing. He had an incredibly naive concept of what the role of President was and how the federal government and courts worked. Early on especially you could tell he thought being President meant you were got be, like, the world's favorite human for four years or something.
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Neo Rasa posted:Early on especially you could tell he thought being President meant you were got be, like, the world's favorite human for four years or something. Or Boss of America
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Serfer posted:Does "ignorance of the law is not an excuse" apply only to the poor and nonwhite? well, it applies to poor and white people too, but yeah. there's separate justice systems for the rich and the non-rich in this country
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GodDamnArtist posted:Jesus, these guys trying so hard to compare this to Obama by name dropping Rev. Wright to try and resurrect that 'controversy'. Just trying to defend the indefensible because it came from team R. Even Fox's soft morning programming is pure white nationalist TV, what a fuckin' time to be alive.
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Neo Rasa posted:Early on especially you could tell he thought being President meant you were got be, like, the world's favorite human for four years or something. He internalized the Fox News narrative that Obama was lazy and just golfed a bunch. Trump loves golf, he thought it would be a perfect fit.
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Madkal posted:My dad does this all the time when we try to discuss climate change. First he says "well if you believe in it why are still driving a car". When my wife and I explain to him that we take public transit more and more and only drive the car for long distances where transit isn't available he goes into saying "well you shouldn't be buying anything because things are delivered to stores using trucks" etc. Pretty much the argument is if you care so much about this subject why aren't you removing yourself from society altogether? Are you a hypocrite?  " "Oh you don't want to talk about emotions? Guess I win " It's infuriating because they'll talk for hours, they'll talk your ear off, then the second they hit any resistance they hit the eject button and the conversation isn't worth having. There are so many trump fans that, all of a sudden, don't LIKE talking politics any more! People are garbage monsters. Serfer posted:Does "
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InsertPotPun posted:That type of deflection is common, they want to talk about anything else but themselves. If you try to steer the topic back to them, to remind them that we aren't talking about you, these people will wave you away or shut down and then start looking for any excuse to say that they "won". "Oh you got emotional? I win. “Oh you think abortion is murder dad? Does it make you an accomplice every time you drive by Planned Parenthood? No? Because that doesn’t make any sense? Huh.” You have to drag them into the same roach motel they want to check you into. You may not win, but they’ll learn it’s a third rail and shut up.
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Rich Uncle Chet posted:Trump's spent his entire life and career being so absurdly privileged that the consequences of things have never mattered to him? I agree that Manafort, after being a fixer for dictators across the globe for decades without any punishment, figured he was untouchable. Flynn is getting a slap on the wrist for the things he did (particularly the attempted rendering).
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selec posted:“Oh you think abortion is murder dad? Does it make you an accomplice every time you drive by Planned Parenthood? No? Because that doesn’t make any sense? Huh.” That kind of backfires seeing that people try to burn down planned parenthood clinics with alarming frequency.
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Crow Jane posted:I like whoever it was with the ostrich-skin suit, because if you're going to be a cartoon supervillian, you may as well be ostentatious about it. Really though, I think the suit itself is my favorite character. Manafort's not a bad choice but it's hard to beat the comedy of Mr Page.
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Shifty Pony posted:He internalized the Fox News narrative that Obama was lazy and just golfed a bunch. Also the narrative that the Democrats were perpetually doing crimes and corruption and no-one cared.
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There’s some fun speculation about today’s double super secret grand jury. Remember this story from October about Mueller trying to subpoena Trump. It says oral arguments are scheduled for today. - Trump has nothing on his schedule between noon and 5:15 today (https://factba.se/topic/calendar). - Gregory Katsas, the only Trump appointee on the DC circuit, recused himself. - Chief Judge Howell unsealed the Watergate Roadmap on October 11th, which may have been at Mueller’s request, to use as a basis for indicting the President as there is no other publicly known precedent (https://www.lawfareblog.com/watergate-road-map-what-it-says-and-what-it-suggests-mueller) So, maybe today is about Trump fighting a subpoena, but the secrecy would mean someone super sensitive was brought in to testify. So, maybe Trump lost a motion and was actually in court today testifying before the grand jury.
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CuddleCryptid posted:That kind of backfires seeing that people try to burn down planned parenthood clinics with alarming frequency. That’s on them, don’t let assholes set the terms of the debate, and if they try to like OP’s dad, make sure to use those terms against them.
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Jealous Cow posted:So, maybe Trump lost a motion and was actually in court today testifying before the grand jury. https://twitter.com/EliStokols/status/1073620124219904001
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Jealous Cow posted:There’s some fun speculation about today’s double super secret grand jury. Trump was in court and no-one noticed? This seems like Q levels of conspiracy idiocy. Why not Butina, the spy that might have flipped?
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