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JFairfax posted:sales is great when you lie to capitalists and trick them into spending money for bullshit 
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I’m just gonna ask, how many sandwiches does $79 a month buy you?
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Dec 14, 2018 18:53
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qkkl posted:going out to eat is basically the ideal communist scenario minus the whole paying for your food part. In the ideal Communist society there wouldn't be a class of service industry drones, which is what the culture of not cooking for yourself promotes.
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Dec 14, 2018 19:00
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The Nastier Nate posted:I’m just gonna ask, how many sandwiches does $79 a month buy you? If the answer isn't 100, then everyone involved needs to be put against the wall.
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Dec 14, 2018 19:00
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JFairfax posted:If you don't like sales, don't loving do it. If you don't like paying rent, just don't loving live under a roof
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Dec 14, 2018 19:01
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I couldn't do insurance sales. Just sucked too hard. First of all, they lied to me and said I wouldn't be doing cold calls because other people would handle that. Nah it was 99% cold calls unless I wanted to generate leads on my own time after work (nah). Then they basically cranked rates like gently caress and I felt like poo poo trying to sell an insurance package that was 99.99% the same as all the other insurance packages but for 2-4x the price. I didn't care when it was selling life insurance to a rich person but that was rare and usually I dealt with regular people and holy poo poo the screws that get turned on them. Then they had me take some sales classes in which some blowhard bragged about his verbal abuse of a car wash employee. Then they stiffed me on commissions for what I did sell. They were also SUPER loving VAGUE about the % of commission I get for each product which was shady as hell to me from day 1. "We don't have a table you can just reference" yeah go gently caress yourselves. Then they had no customer support people really so I had to do lead generation, the actual sales part, customer support, and other random poo poo all on my own. lol. How am I supposed to make cold calls when half the day people call to ask about random poo poo on their insurance or complain about rates being cranked up on them? How do I go out and close sales and talk to people in person (the only real value point involved in our 2-4x the cost insurance) when I'm the only one at the office that can do basic stuff with the system like change mileage information or look people's history up? One person sticks out in my mind because she was on a fixed income and was scraping together payments for a life insurance policy ...... which didn't exist because her previous agent whose customers I took over after said previous agent left just fuckin' lied to her for years about what she had. Only uncovered after I went out to do an in-person review with her. She thought she had a $150k life insurance policy on her diabetic husband, turns out nah she has like some poo poo house $10k policy with a decreasing term (ie even that $15k will be gone soon) they've been paying out the rear end for (like hundreds of dollars a month) because without her husband she has no income. The company was extremely uncooperative and basically said "lol sucks for her" and in the end I helped the woman file a grievance with the insurance commissioner on the side. Probably nothing ever came of it. Good job for loving that poor woman out of hundreds of dollars a month for years, Farmers. Owned by Zurich Financial Group in case anyone had any doubts. Then I started uncovering other similar shady poo poo like that (a couple people were paying thousands a month for a policy that wasn't what at all what they thought it was and wouldn't even make sense for them to have and poo poo). The whole job started to feel like I got dropped a client-book full of lawsuits waiting to happen done by the previous agent (who now, despite leaving on ostensibly horrible terms with the company, has another Farmers office in Northern California). gently caress sales lol Moridin920 has issued a correction as of 19:06 on Dec 14, 2018 |
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The Nastier Nate posted:I’m just gonna ask, how many sandwiches does $79 a month buy you? one but it's pretty big
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Greatbacon posted:I think a central/common kitchen & dining area with the big and fancy toys and some long tables would be cool, but I'd still want at least a hot pad and a fridge for stuff. i lived in a place like that for awhile because it was really close to my job it was marketed as "dorm-style living for young professionals" - it was downtown walkable to the state capitol building i shared a bathroom with a stranger, which meant the doors didn't lock on it
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H.P. Hovercraft posted:i lived in a place like that for awhile because it was really close to my job i bet you felt empowered as gently caress
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Dec 14, 2018 19:13
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they had several of those big commercial refrigerators. i had to provide a bin with my name on it to put into one, and another for a pantry shelf everyone just got minifridges for their rooms instead they constantly had to put out notices about not "smoking or burning substances in the rooms" the building was converted from an old orphanage. you could still see children's graffiti in the basement laundry
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Dec 14, 2018 19:18
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:Cross-posting from the cyberpunk dystopia thread since I'm not sure which thread is more appropriate, but it's definitely a pro-click: The $15 means more for the people working in the warehouses where poo poo is actually stored because if it's like the one near my facility (I work sort/routing, we don't have any inventory of our own poo poo just flows through), they get full-time where the $15 would actually start mattering instead of the 'escorted from the building when you hit 29.5 hours' like happens here. Their full-time is in the form of four 10 hour days. DragQueenofAngmar posted:there are no ethical actions under capitalism Revolution and executing capitalists are actions though. Shima Honnou has issued a correction as of 20:21 on Dec 14, 2018 |
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Dec 14, 2018 20:14
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Shima Honnou posted:Their full-time is in the form of four 10 hour days. unironically love this schedule quote:Revolution and executing capitalists are actions though. I feel like this is “against” rather than “under” but fair point
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Dec 14, 2018 20:32
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DragQueenofAngmar posted:unironically love this schedule Supposedly you can also do five 8 hour days for less pay-per-hour or three, gently caress I don't even know, 14 or some poo poo hour days for more pay-per-hour, but it all balances out to the same and I only know that second-hand from talking to people who've heard it from people they know. Either way most people who've been in there hate it, it's insanely physically demanding because you are on your feet walking and carrying poo poo for literally that entire time except for lunch break.
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Shima Honnou posted:Supposedly you can also do five 8 hour days for less pay-per-hour or three, gently caress I don't even know, 14 or some poo poo hour days for more pay-per-hour, but it all balances out to the same and I only know that second-hand from talking to people who've heard it from people they know. Either way most people who've been in there hate it, it's insanely physically demanding because you are on your feet walking and carrying poo poo for literally that entire time except for lunch break. I haven’t worked for amazon and I could fully believe it’s uniquely terrible in a way that negates this, but ive worked warehouse jobs on both 8x5 and 10x4 schedule and idk I never noticed the extra two hours while I was already tired compared to an entire free day
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Dec 14, 2018 20:48
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some of the unions here in CA have 3/12 scheduling, which, frankly, would own
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Dec 14, 2018 21:06
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boar guy posted:some of the unions here in CA have 3/12 scheduling, which, frankly, would own oh my god I want that seriously, at 8 hours of work I’m already drained enough to not do anything actually fun or meaningful in the rest of that day, let me just work til the limit and pass out and have 4 free days a week that rules
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Dec 14, 2018 21:10
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speaking of buying things, anyone got any cool places for patches and pins and stuff? I found Calton Books but was curious about any others.
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I like a couple of Etsy stores for stuff I can't get locally. https://www.etsy.com/dk-en/shop/LordOfTheLeftHand?ref=pr2018_faveshops https://www.etsy.com/dk-en/shop/retirementfund?ref=pr2018_faveshops https://www.etsy.com/dk-en/shop/directfraction?ref=pr2018_faveshops https://www.etsy.com/dk-en/shop/RebelRadicalDIY?ref=pr2018_faveshops https://www.etsy.com/dk-en/shop/phoenixcompost?ref=pr2018_faveshops https://www.etsy.com/dk-en/shop/DecadenciaPUNK?ref=pr2018_faveshops https://www.etsy.com/dk-en/shop/xDISPATCHx?ref=pr2018_faveshops E: You should obviously DIY as much as possible. Scrap cloth is free and textile paint is inexpensive. KozmoNaut has issued a correction as of 21:52 on Dec 14, 2018 |
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Dec 14, 2018 21:44
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god that's terrible! A bulk volume sandwhich service! But what city is it in? I need to know to avoid it. THere are just so many cities that could do this, where specifically?
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Dec 14, 2018 21:55
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KozmoNaut posted:I like a couple of Etsy stores for stuff I can't get locally. thanks a bunch!
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zegermans posted:god that's terrible! A bulk volume sandwhich service! But what city is it in? I need to know to avoid it. THere are just so many cities that could do this, where specifically? https://www.goldbelly.com/subscriptions/sandwich "Each box sent to subscribers will serve 2-4 people" That means two sandwiches a month, hardly "bulk volume"
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Dec 14, 2018 22:21
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I think those folks are already plenty white
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Plank Walker posted:one but it's pretty big Who knew this would ever become a viable business plan? 
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Dec 14, 2018 22:39
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i legit thought these were all the same person until i saw the names underneath.
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I will lol forever at every dumbass that completely misses the point of that scene that salespeople are the scum of the earth
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I had to zoom in on my phone to be able to tell them apart
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Blarghalt posted:I will lol forever at every dumbass that completely misses the point of that scene that salespeople are the scum of the earth yeah, try working in a place where this scene is basically the training guide. one of the best bits about Sorry to Bother You is that the fact that it does focus on cold call sales for a decent chunk
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Dec 14, 2018 22:59
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I mean, it certainly is a dumb and bad advertisement for a number of reasons, but I really am fascinated with goon face blindness. I suspect it has to do with watching a lot of anime and (most) real people don't have three foot tall blue pompadours and poo poo to tell them apart.
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Dec 14, 2018 23:02
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what if its only face blindness for white people
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Dec 14, 2018 23:47
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used to do sales for SiriusXM for $9/hr, like five years ago we got commission; if you had a 100% CCOF rate, at least a 80% sales rate, and never called in sick, you could make as much as the princely sum of $12/hr I didn't do that job for the money or the thrill of it but because call centers are always hiring and nobody else would
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my sister knows a guy from high school who works sales and started out in a sales job that had a similar model of selling useless financial products to old people, and that he would routinely mislead them as to what they were buying. he got her a job too but she was let go for not making quota becayse she wouldnt sell old people poo poo they didnt need. after he graduated college he parlayed that experience into a hotshot sales job at bloomberg and now he has an even more hot poo poo sales job at linkedin. sales jobs select for sociopaths who have no qualms towards ripping people off. stealing from poor people, but giving the theft a veneer of respectability by making the thieves wear suits and go to fancy colleges, is a central component to our economy
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Shear Modulus posted:what if its only face blindness for white people The only way to tell white people apart is by hair color or amount of fat on the face.
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Shear Modulus posted:what if its only face blindness for white people They're all skinny blonde white women. We all know that group is well known for looking very diverse.
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Shear Modulus posted:sales jobs select for sociopaths who have no qualms towards ripping people off. stealing from poor people, but giving the theft a veneer of respectability by making the thieves wear suits and go to fancy colleges, is a central component to our economy
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I also thought it was the same person in all 3 lol
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Iron Crowned posted:They're all skinny blonde white women. We all know that group is well known for looking very diverse. fox news gets a fresh version every few months
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