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Yardbomb posted:Capitalism is literally to blame for like 99% of the ills in america dumbass. Its capitalism's fault my product is poo poo! Its capitalism's fault I took the extremely short sighted easy path of playing a game to support myself. If only I had Johnathan Fatal1ty Wendal to guide me through this process.
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Dec 15, 2018 02:50
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Yardbomb posted:Capitalism is literally to blame for like 99% of the ills in america dumbass. Such a goon thing to be economically illiterate and blame everything on capitalism, as well as bringing their lovely politics into a video game thread. gently caress off mate, we're here for video games.
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Dec 15, 2018 03:04
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lucifirius posted:Such a goon thing to be economically illiterate and blame everything on capitalism, as well as bringing their lovely politics into a video game thread. They brought it up first dickweed, it still causes most of the problems in america, dwi.
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Dec 15, 2018 03:29
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capitalism is absolutely responsible for like 99% of what’s wrong with video games including this and it’s funny as hell that reactionary nerds wail about its effects then get pissy when you point out the cause
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Dec 15, 2018 03:34
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Yardbomb posted:They brought it up first dickweed, it still causes most of the problems in america, dwi. It was brought up a few pages back. ToastyPotato posted:Actually true. The "always be growing" nature of publicly traded corporations is unsustainable in general, and generally does not mesh well with gaming, especially online gaming. Every single publicly traded games company will eventually fall in the same way, because there simply is no way to continuously top yourself and not be predatory as gently caress. Games simply take too long and too much effort to make good. I guess people should make games for free. Nobody needs to be paid for their work, after all. Things that don't make money should just be kept alive to keep people happy, no matter who needs to be fed! DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:capitalism is absolutely responsible for like 99% of what’s wrong with video games including this and it’s funny as hell that reactionary nerds wail about its effects then get pissy when you point out the cause See previous statement.
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Dec 15, 2018 03:41
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This thread and USPOL/Trumpthread are like the two threads I watch the most on this website. I don't think I like them merging.
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Dec 15, 2018 03:45
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Capitalism is what enables people to take high risk moves, which often benefits society. The problem comes when you apply a just world theory to how the winners and losers are chosen, and believe the losers need to feel the consequences of their losing to prevent irresponsibility. When that happens, risk shrinks and low-risk reward is all you see. Like what’s happening everywhere right now. Motherfuckers will make crazy rear end video games for you if you can tell them they won’t starve or die in debt if it fails.
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Dec 15, 2018 03:46
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BRJohnson posted:This thread and USPOL/Trumpthread are like the two threads I watch the most on this website. fascinating how you are me
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Dec 15, 2018 04:01
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:capitalism is absolutely responsible for like 99% of what’s wrong with video games including this and it’s funny as hell that reactionary nerds wail about its effects then get pissy when you point out the cause capitalism sucks but a poo poo game is a poo poo game and noone is owed an e-sports career because theyre good at a game noone gives a gently caress about watching or spending money on sorry to break this to you.
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Dec 15, 2018 04:03
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bernie!!!!!
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Maybe unchecked capitalism causes a lot of problems in our society and the world, and also it's a bad idea to stake your loving life on playing video games when you know that opportunity could dissolve at any moment? *edit* again not that I don't have sympathy for those people but the "I quit school to play these video games who's going to help me" cause is not what I want representing my fully automated luxury gay space communism future. BRJurgis fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Dec 15, 2018 |
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Dec 15, 2018 04:24
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BRJohnson posted:and also it's a bad idea to stake your loving life on playing video games when you know that opportunity could dissolve at any moment? Also a bad idea to stake your loving life on the stock market, real estate, college education, physical storefronts, manufacturing work, websites, journalism, social media, game development, streaming, living in a city with rising housing costs, having health care, So I guess gently caress everyone then, what a bunch of morons
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Dec 15, 2018 04:30
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Midnightghoul posted:Also a bad idea to stake your loving life on the stock market, real estate, college education, physical storefronts, manufacturing work, websites, journalism, social media, game development, streaming, living in a city with rising housing costs, having health care, For one thing, yes. For another thing, the reasons Esports is not entirely a reasonable or sustainable idea for your sole and primary source of income has kind of been covered. I'm not saying "LOL gently caress those idiots", and most people aren't saying that. I would like to know what the alternative is though, charity e-sports jobs? Guaranteed video gaming career? I know I'm being flippant but go ahead and give me your real answer maybe I'll like it.
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Dec 15, 2018 04:36
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I am saying “lol gently caress those idiots”
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I just got an email from Riot advertising their Nexus Blitz mode. What timing!
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Dec 15, 2018 04:56
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Midnightghoul posted:Also a bad idea to stake your loving life on the stock market, real estate, college education, physical storefronts, manufacturing work, websites, journalism, social media, game development, streaming, living in a city with rising housing costs, having health care, lol at not being born wealthy. BRJohnson posted:For one thing, yes. Having a job and then suddenly not having one sucks. It doesn't matter that esports was never going to be a 40 year career with a full retirement plan. A huge portion of the population currently have jobs that will also likely not have those things. Tons more have jobs that do but are on the chopping block within the next decade or so because they will be redundant or obsolete. The people defending the esports players are specifically responding to the people who are laughing at them. As for your question, the alternative for them is the same for literally every other person who currently has a job that might not exist at some point in the near future. Hope you can figure something else out without dying in poverty. lucifirius posted:It was brought up a few pages back. lol at trying to come off as knowledgeable with regards to economic discussions and then blatantly straw-manning an argument from a 3 sentence quote. Me: The status quo of required constant growth is unsustainable and the result is the constant failure of game companies. You: Yeah games should totallly be made for free and no one should be paid for their work! Get a load of this guy and his socialism, am I right guys?  In case you misread that too, I am saying your post was really, really bad. Also lol in general to the people who still believe getting a college degree is the magical thing that instantly makes you successful, despite tons of college grads being unemployed, underemployed, in debt, or just plain poor. Whole lotta people coming out believing we live in a meritocracy right now.
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Comrayn posted:I am saying “lol gently caress those idiots” Same
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Dec 15, 2018 05:07
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I guess a positive from this is I will never see my teams Sgt Hammer rotated on ever again
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Midnightghoul posted:Also a bad idea to stake your loving life on the stock market, real estate, college education, physical storefronts, manufacturing work, websites, journalism, social media, game development, streaming, living in a city with rising housing costs, having health care, yeah real jobs that could then transition into other jobs later are exactly the same as playing a video games. Previous work experience: am good at saying "slam the like button and dont forget to subscribe"
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Dec 15, 2018 05:18
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It seems really important for some to believe that these players had literally no life goals or aspirations outside of playing video games just because they expressed pain over losing the job they were currently invested in (and getting actually paid by.) Yes, some of them dropped out of school to play games for money. I wonder why a human being would choose to make money doing something they like right now as opposed to spending money on an investment that gambles whether or not it might pay off with a job they might not like in the future, if it results in any job at all within a reasonable period of time.
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Dec 15, 2018 05:27
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I think there are some extreme views here. Maybe some of you can stop laughing at somebody's misfortune just because they took a video game gig*, and then we can all pull out of USPOL's orbit. *Until they start a gofundme. Then we can laugh.
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ToastyPotato posted:It seems really important for some to believe that these players had literally no life goals or aspirations outside of playing video games just because they expressed pain over losing the job they were currently invested in (and getting actually paid by.) Yes, some of them dropped out of school to play games for money. I wonder why a human being would choose to make money doing something they like right now as opposed to spending money on an investment that gambles whether or not it might pay off with a job they might not like in the future, if it results in any job at all within a reasonable period of time. I wouldn’t say it’s important to me to believe that but I do
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Dec 15, 2018 05:44
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Sure are a lot of people showing up in this thread to drop nuclear-grade hot takes right now, did Blizzard announce some sort of lovely post contest or something?
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Comrayn posted:I wouldn’t say it’s important to me to believe that but I do Well everyone's got opinions. For example, I think your opinion on them makes you look way more foolish and immature than their decision to get paid for doing something they were passionate about (or something they found easy, because I am sure some probably did it without loving the game.) Ultimately it doesn't matter, but at the end of the day, they look maybe a little foolish, and you just look like a mean spirited douche.
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Kai Tave posted:Sure are a lot of people showing up in this thread to drop nuclear-grade hot takes right now, did Blizzard announce some sort of lovely post contest or something? Yes, but I'm just getting word now that they've dropped the funding for it.
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Streak posted:bernie!!!!! If they'd included a Bernie Sanders hero and  spray this game would still be alive and playing basketball
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Kai Tave posted:Sure are a lot of people showing up in this thread to drop nuclear-grade hot takes right now, did Blizzard announce some sort of lovely post contest or something? Nice entry  ToastyPotato posted:Well everyone's got opinions. For example, I think your opinion on them makes you look way more foolish and immature than their decision to get paid for doing something they were passionate about (or something they found easy, because I am sure some probably did it without loving the game.) Ultimately it doesn't matter, but at the end of the day, they look maybe a little foolish, and you just look like a mean spirited douche. I now see the error of my ways. Never again will I laugh at idiots on the Something Awful website. Comrayn fucked around with this message at 06:07 on Dec 15, 2018 |
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Man: I am sad about losing my job and possibly being homeless Legions of internet tough guys: you're a loving idiot! I'm glad you lost your job! 
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These aren't middle aged single moms losing their job and living in their car. These are college aged kids-mid 20s who are going to go right back to living with their parents if they dont already live there.
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Dec 15, 2018 06:26
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You're being real weird about this considering we live in a time where people are literally making careers out of playing video games. That one Far Side comic isn't really a joke anymore
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People moved across the country and signed leases based on what a Blizzard employee personally told them(that they had a job). I don't see how calling other people idiots for trying to enjoy their life fits in here. I haven't seen any of them doing anything ridiculous, just expressing sadness that their dreams just got offered to them and then snatched away at the last moment by a man sitting on a cart full of moneybags.
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I am kind of laughing at the irony of wannabe poo poo posters on a nearly 20 year old, dried up forum trying to be edgy by making fun of people for being idiots or losers. Like, this, right here, is the best they could do, in all of the internet. Sad.banned from Starbucks posted:These aren't middle aged single moms losing their job and living in their car. These are college aged kids-mid 20s who are going to go right back to living with their parents if they dont already live there. If that is the case then what even is the point of bringing up their choice in jobs with esports in the first place? Or do people seriously believe that every college aged person is fully employed in their permanent career before they even graduate, complete with their own homes?
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I got a hero rework to get things back on track: America Q: Rebalance it so stuff like epilepsy medication won’t bankrupt you if you have epilepsy and need it W: While it’s popular, places like Florida have been dragging down America’s winrate for a while now. W is removed and replaced with empty coastline. E: Corporate Influence was a little too powerful so we’ve reduced the coefficient by 16% R: Converted to the metric system because holy poo poo it is just beyond a joke at this point
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Jesus Christ. Ghoulish people laughing at people losing their lively hood, no matter what it is, is poor taste.
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I’d totally quit college and play pro esports if I was young again. Sounds fun as poo poo and probably more worth it than the lovely degree I did end up with.
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If I want to win, rolling thunder, earthquake, thunderstorm. If i am playing with my low ranked friends, full loving windfury and Sunder baby
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Macaluso posted:You're being real weird about this considering we live in a time where people are literally making careers out of playing video games. That one Far Side comic isn't really a joke anymore Yeah it's pretty loving stupid to go "lol nerdy morons trying to make a living off video games" when that's been an honest to god career path instead of some lovely joke for like a decade now. People in the HGC were making livelihoods off the HGC for three years. It's not like people packed up their lives on a pipe dream promise of "maybe Heroes esports will be a thing", because HGC WAS a thing, until Blizzard decided at the drop of a hat with no forewarning that it was not. Honestly, that's the part of this that bothers me. It's not that Blizzard killed off HGC, because they're a company and it's not their obligation to support something that they can't possibly financially justify to provide welfare for esports players. It's that this decision was made on basically the drop of a hat and sprung on all of these people with no forewarning or preparation time. If you're informed a couple months in advance of the end of your current season or whatever that the next HGC might not be happening, you have some time to plan your finances and figure out what you're going to do from here forward. But as far as anyone was aware as recently as a month ago all systems were go.
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