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CascadeBeta
Feb 14, 2009

by Cyrano4747

eke out posted:

look, i don't know everything about legislative process but

https://twitter.com/kristinapet/status/1074771705841758216

i feel like this isn't the point where he decides

I mean even if they want to keep it open, enough house repubs that got booted in the election are quitting early where they might not have the votes anyway.

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Deified Data
Nov 3, 2015


Fun Shoe

theflyingorc posted:

I really like that you have the same thesis here as the Joker in The Killing Joke

lol if I do it is purely by accident. What is his thesis?

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006
james comey is mad as hell, and he's not gonna take james comey's poo poo anymore

Arturo Ui
Apr 14, 2005

Forums Bosch Expert

TulliusCicero posted:

Jordan Peterson does not look like a well man at all, holy poo poo.

He only eats beef and salt.

Guze
Oct 10, 2007

Regular Human Bartender

Comey 2020. Hell yeah norms.

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005



The DOW closed down 2.1% and I know its theoretical money but good lord thats a lot of theoretical money

Spoke Lee
Dec 31, 2004

chairizard lol

Big Mean Jerk posted:

I’m genuinely curious why he thinks every president since FDR was a lizard except Truman, Ike, Obama, and Trump. Did the lizard people just not primary well in those elections?

I am not entirely sure, but I think in UFO conspiracy lore, Truman like signed some secret treaty with lizard people and grey aliens or some poo poo that expanded their influence.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

eke out posted:

look, i don't know everything about legislative process but

https://twitter.com/kristinapet/status/1074771705841758216

i feel like this isn't the point where he decides
I guess they meant that he will announce he'll definitely veto any budget without the Wall rather than being literal.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Iron Twinkie posted:

He went in blind to the new Spiderman movie and seeing Spidermans that were black, a girl, an anime, and a detective who punches Nazis was too much for him to take.

I laugh at the chuds who never realized there have always been multiple spidermen in different universes, and that Gwen Stacy as Spiderwoman loving owns.

Crabtree
Oct 17, 2012

ARRRGH! Get that wallet out!
Everybody: Lowtax in a Pickle!
Pickle! Pickle! Pickle! Pickle!

Dinosaur Gum
Shut it down you toddler. Give me that Holiday gift.

bilperkins2
Nov 22, 2004

Fashion for Dogz
:france:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1074774781420015618

Real strong economy you got there:

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

Lycus posted:

I guess they meant that he will announce he'll definitely veto any budget without the Wall rather than being literal.

No, he definitely things there's a big lever that makes the VRROOOOoooooooooooooom powering down sound when you pull it.

Tibalt
May 14, 2017

What, drawn, and talk of peace! I hate the word, As I hate hell, all Montagues, and thee

Silver2195 posted:

Doesn't Hatreon already exist?
Went out of business after PayPal and every major credit card discontinued service.

Shammypants
May 25, 2004

Let me tell you about true luxury.

If he decides on the shutdown today it will be to NOT shut down

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
1https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/1074701363664314369
2https://twitter.com/politico/status/1074769912101519360
3https://twitter.com/katherinemiller/status/1074768054897258496
4https://twitter.com/KFILE/status/1074689497848299521
5https://twitter.com/WPordzik/status/1074735507542851585
6https://twitter.com/jerryiannelli/status/1074715722104872960
7https://twitter.com/jerryiannelli/status/1074716884715606019
8https://twitter.com/TVietor08/status/1074763037339308032
9https://twitter.com/dominicholden/status/1074772595248168960
10https://twitter.com/dominicholden/status/1074772599882870785
11https://twitter.com/dominicholden/status/1074772602386857984
12https://twitter.com/dominicholden/status/1074772606644051972
13https://twitter.com/MotherJones/status/1074774066442264576
14https://twitter.com/Reuters/status/1074767608073912321
15https://twitter.com/BySteveReilly/status/1074766523464589314
16https://twitter.com/nickconfessore/status/1074488463729311744
17https://twitter.com/NoahShachtman/status/1074662767506939910
18https://twitter.com/nytimesworld/status/1074769229218500608
19https://twitter.com/justinjm1/status/1074769640113496065
20https://twitter.com/AdamSerwer/status/1074726773751980032
21https://twitter.com/EmmaJanePettit/status/1074480069379309568
22https://twitter.com/snovit321/status/1074303034631577600
https://i.imgur.com/vVODY9L.mp4

Toobly
Feb 19, 2013


This looks like an EKG of someone with Torsades de Pointe

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



CascadeBeta posted:

I mean even if they want to keep it open, enough house repubs that got booted in the election are quitting early where they might not have the votes anyway.

yeah dude vote counting is going to be a mess. all the congressional beat people are saying lots have left, but it seems like no one knows for sure who's there - or how many democrats they'd need to actually pass a budget

Tibalt
May 14, 2017

What, drawn, and talk of peace! I hate the word, As I hate hell, all Montagues, and thee

By the way, because it comes up every time:

Do not look at your 401k. Do not mess with your 401k. Do not reduce your contribution to your 401K. DO NOT TAKE MONEY OUT OF YOUR 401K.

It is still the best retirement vehicle available to you, assuming you're not earning a pension, even with the current chaos in the market. I can prove this with math.

cr0y
Mar 24, 2005



What the hell would a shutdown before holiday travel even look like? It would be insanity.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
Just do double check, there isn't some insane provision in a law somewhere that allows the president to shut down the government while there's an active budget, right? This is just brain worms talking?

Harik
Sep 9, 2001

From the hard streets of Moscow
First dog to touch the stars


Plaster Town Cop

Deified Data posted:

lol if I do it is purely by accident. What is his thesis?
Every good person is one lovely circumstance away from being a criminal.

On a surface look, he's not wrong, but digging deeper there's a lot of people who are only "good" because circumstances haven't permitted them to be poo poo yet. See also the katrina roving gangs of white people trying to find black "looters" to execute and all the people you can convince to make a lynching a public festival.

I think there's a very small group of people that would refuse to break laws or go against their morality no matter what the circumstances they find themselves in, a much larger group that will break laws but try not to hurt anyone directly (think cooking meth, dealing whatever, breaking into cars) and some smaller subset that happily hurt other people (robbery/murder combos, muggings, muscle)

Driving showcases it in a microcosm: straight up vast majority of the population of the US is fine with breaking the speed limit to some extent because doing the limit is a trivial inconvenience to themselves. There's a tiny number of people who do the limit, and a handful of people who weave through traffic 30-40mph faster than the flow.

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'



Oooh Jordan Peterson getting kicked off is huge.



Oh I'm sorry, closing his account entirely voluntarily and in no way because he saw the writing on the wall.

Dejawesp
Jan 8, 2017

You have to follow the beat!

Silver2195 posted:

Doesn't Hatreon already exist?

Visa killed Hatreon a year ago for housing nazis.

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

Shifty Pony posted:

Oooh Jordan Peterson getting kicked off is huge.



Oh I'm sorry, closing his account entirely voluntarily and in no way because he saw the writing on the wall.

Carl of Swindon was only kicked off Patreon because other right-wingers mass-reported him.

Lumpy
Apr 26, 2002

La! La! La! Laaaa!



College Slice

cr0y posted:

The DOW closed down 2.1% and I know its theoretical money but good lord thats a lot of theoretical money

If you had $100, and at the end of the day you had $97.90, would you panic?

Axetrain
Sep 14, 2007

Always rich to see these chickenshit cowards try to hide their fascism behind "freedom of speech".

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

cheetah7071 posted:

Just do double check, there isn't some insane provision in a law somewhere that allows the president to shut down the government while there's an active budget, right? This is just brain worms talking?

There is no master switch that swings from GOVERNMENT ON to GOVERNMENT OFF. The government shuts down because its statutory authorization to spend money expires at a certain time. If, before this time, Congress passes a new authorization and the President signs it, spending continues and all is well. If this does not happen, we have a shutdown.

So it's not really Trump positively declaring that the government is hereby shut down, it's more his and Congress's complete failure to do their jobs in a competent and timely manner.

TulliusCicero
Jul 29, 2017



Arturo Ui posted:

He only eats beef and salt.

I know Peterson literally eats like a caveman, but dude's skin tone and scraggly sunken facial features make it look like the guy is suffering from Tuberculosis, good lord

Spoke Lee
Dec 31, 2004

chairizard lol
I loving hate DeSantis's face. He always looks like he just got caught doing something terrible and is seconds away from bursting into tears.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Lumpy posted:

If you had $100, and at the end of the day you had $97.90, would you panic?

If that 97.90 was $111.84 two months ago yeah (the Dow is down 12.5% from its Oct all-time high)

Old Kentucky Shark
May 25, 2012

If you think you're gonna get sympathy from the shark, well then, you won't.


haveblue posted:

There is no master switch that swings from GOVERNMENT ON to GOVERNMENT OFF. The government shuts down because its statutory authorization to spend money expires at a certain time. If, before this time, Congress passes a new authorization and the President signs it, spending continues and all is well. If this does not happen, we have a shutdown.

So it's not really Trump positively declaring that the government is hereby shut down, it's more his and Congress's complete failure to do their jobs in a competent and timely manner.

Right. Also, it's not the whole government, it's only about 1/5th of the government, because the Army, VA, and several other executive agencies are already either funded through Oct 2019 by existed spending resolutions passed earlier this year, or are entirely or mostly self-funding (post-office, etc) enough to limp along until Democrats are sworn in. So it's just the DHS (which includes the TSA in the middle of the holiday rush, which is why everyone's freaking out) and the Interior and a few other services.

Also, there is broadly bipartisan agreement on a spending bill with the exception of The Wall, so if Trump doesn't declare his intention to veto, it would pass easily with whatever R's and D's are willing to schlep into Washington during the lame duck session.

Bugsy
Jul 15, 2004

I'm thumpin'. That's
why they call me
'Thumper'.


Slippery Tilde
https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1074747830097641473

Dejawesp
Jan 8, 2017

You have to follow the beat!

haveblue posted:

There is no master switch that swings from GOVERNMENT ON to GOVERNMENT OFF. The government shuts down because its statutory authorization to spend money expires at a certain time. If, before this time, Congress passes a new authorization and the President signs it, spending continues and all is well. If this does not happen, we have a shutdown.

So it's not really Trump positively declaring that the government is hereby shut down, it's more his and Congress's complete failure to do their jobs in a competent and timely manner.

In most functional countries the budget from the year before keeps running until a new one is made. I'd suggest that but I know the US would find a way to gently caress it up. Like Republicans blocking a Dem budget to keep their own budget for 25 years straight.

gregday
May 23, 2003

https://twitter.com/AaronBlake/status/1074778142315831296

sexpig by night
Sep 8, 2011

by Azathoth

Lumpy posted:

If you had $100, and at the end of the day you had $97.90, would you panic?

I'd probably take it out of the room that was making it smaller every day, yea. Like, I'd not love that? I guess I wouldn't throw myself out a window but I'd be annoyed if I checked my wallet and three bucks of it just vanished because our special needs president had a rage-poo poo.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Tibalt posted:

By the way, because it comes up every time:

Do not look at your 401k. Do not mess with your 401k. Do not reduce your contribution to your 401K. DO NOT TAKE MONEY OUT OF YOUR 401K.

It is still the best retirement vehicle available to you, assuming you're not earning a pension, even with the current chaos in the market. I can prove this with math.

Unless your math is a formula for a time-travel device to take you to the future to see what happens to stocks and report back, then no you cannot.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010


He's got to be doing this intentionally at this point.

nerdz
Oct 12, 2004


Complex, statistically improbable things are by their nature more difficult to explain than simple, statistically probable things.
Grimey Drawer

There's no way Peterson is leaving Patreon by his own will. He was getting over 100k a month BEFORE he made the numbers private. If he's kicked out it will hurt a lot for him.

Dejawesp
Jan 8, 2017

You have to follow the beat!

VitalSigns posted:

Unless your math is a formula for a time-travel device to take you to the future to see what happens to stocks and report back, then no you cannot.

This is the finance version of "Doctors don't know everything" you hear from people into holistic medicine. It's about probability compared to the alternative. Not being able to see into the future.

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Feldegast42
Oct 29, 2011

COMMENCE THE RITE OF SHITPOSTING

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

He's got to be doing this intentionally at this point.

He's either doing the Chewbacca defense or is doing some SSJ 3 legal reasoning to try to "well actually" Trump out of this mess

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