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e: maybe new page is good thing Which is why it's in spoiler tags!
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Ehh. It wasn’t clear what it was. Save that stuff for Survivor sucks. It doesn’t belong here. From OP quote:If it hasn't aired in an episode, don't spoil it in this thread.
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Dec 18, 2018 07:47
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Ideally edit it out.
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Dec 18, 2018 07:49
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Your point has been made.
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Dec 18, 2018 07:50
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Thank you.
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Dec 18, 2018 07:51
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This is still a disappointing ending though. I feel like everybody left is there by virtue of the mistakes of others.
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Dec 18, 2018 07:55
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jfc.
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Dec 18, 2018 08:04
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I don't know what the last few posts are about but assuming they're about the finale episode or its outcome, don't.
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Dec 18, 2018 08:14
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excellent, that is definitely what i needed to see, puke
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Dec 18, 2018 08:14
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:Russell was also on the last season of Australian Survivor. He went in thinking he was a God and then got voted out with an idol pretty much right away lol. this is really underselling it, he wore it to tribal and beat his chest about how he was going to play it over and over and then didn't (obviously). And then the vote was tied and everyone piled on him in the revote, and it was absolutely wonderful.
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Dec 18, 2018 08:17
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Spokes posted:this is really underselling it, he wore it to tribal and beat his chest about how he was going to play it over and over and then didn't (obviously). And then the vote was tied and everyone piled on him in the revote, and it was absolutely wonderful. The best part was that he didn't vote for other player in the tie (it was a 4/4/2/2 tie). So he could have saved himself.
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Dec 18, 2018 08:19
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Dec 18, 2018 08:19
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Propaganda Machine posted:More spoilers Could you not?
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Dec 18, 2018 08:31
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I think PMach meant of the remaining players. It's over. We're past it everyone. Nice work.
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Dec 18, 2018 08:36
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Something about returnees in general kind of grates on me. I get that they’re popular (and i’d love to see Christian again) but the point of Survivor, to me, is that you go out and play your best and try to win, and that’s it. Seeing people (especially non-winners) play 3+ times is frustrating because they’re bringing these weird legacies into the game and at a certain point, people are playing for their next appearance rather than to win. Whatever, I hate fun, I know.
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Dec 18, 2018 08:39
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I think a good percentage of people who care enough about Survivor to post about it probably agree with you. Problem is the viewing audience prefers returnee seasons.
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Dec 18, 2018 08:59
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Very few people should play more than twice. Cirie and Sandra were good and J.T. continued his amazing downward trajectory, but otherwise that should be it. Even the players that did okay their third time round (Malcolm, Andrea) really did nothing new.
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Dec 18, 2018 09:08
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I can think of only two players who did something appreciably different their third time around; Tyson and Coach.
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Dec 18, 2018 13:54
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Spergatory posted:I can think of only two players who did something appreciably different their third time around; Tyson and Coach. What about the Boston Robfather the thing he did differently was being surrounded by complete idiots
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Dec 18, 2018 14:49
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IcePhoenix posted:What about the Boston Robfather That was his 4th appearance
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Dec 18, 2018 15:10
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garthoneeye posted:That was his 4th appearance Jesus Christ
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Dec 18, 2018 15:30
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The only advantage to returnee seasons is that I can recognize some of the people. Fresh cast is best, all returnee is second best, a mix is awful and they need to stop doing those entirely.
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Dec 18, 2018 16:23
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Returning casts are best in moderation. In the 20s it was getting ridiculous, had returnees for 20, 22, 23, 25, 26, 27...
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Dec 18, 2018 18:13
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Some of those returning seasons were pretty bad, but I'd argue that bringing people back to play the game for a second time has elevated the game of the newbies now who are Survivor superfans. I don't think we would be getting nearly the level of play that we see from a lot of people in their first times if we didn't get to see people adjust and talk about the mistakes they made in their first attempts. though I don't really know what people could learn from south pacific or redemption island except how to manipulate idiots, heh
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Dec 18, 2018 18:22
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South Pacific in particular can be seen as a really dark study in how to found and function within a cult. Seriously, Upolu was nuts.
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Dec 18, 2018 18:28
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graventy posted:The only advantage to returnee seasons is that I can recognize some of the people. Fresh cast is best, all returnee is second best, a mix is awful and they need to stop doing those entirely. Philippines is one of the very rare exceptions that turned out well. Spergatory posted:South Pacific in particular can be seen as a really dark study in how to found and function within a cult. Seriously, Upolu was nuts. It's also a study on how someone can just defy the gigantic alpha male sausage cluster that was the merged tribe and win. Seriously, Probst must have been so mad that Sophie beat all his beloved dudes.
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Dec 18, 2018 18:55
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garthoneeye posted:That was his 4th appearance I don't see how anyone could root for Cirie or Ozzy in Game Changers. If they win, it would be very unsatisfying.
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Dec 18, 2018 20:37
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Zesty posted:I don't see how anyone could root for Cirie Careful, you're going to rile up the Cirie warriors in here.
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Dec 18, 2018 20:47
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I thought Cirie was pretty much the only one you could root for going into the Game Changers endgame. I mean, no knock on Sarah, whose game was pretty impressive in that mildly terrifying way that you rarely see nowadays, but I feel like even she would admit that she wasn't exactly "likable" that season. Who the Hell else could we root for? Aubry and Troyzan were barely there, Tai was a flaky lunatic, and Brad Culpepper was... Brad Culpepper. Man, that was a rough season. Though I guess we should be thankful for it because it clearly scared them off of returnee seasons for at least a little bit.
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Dec 18, 2018 22:03
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Spergatory posted:I thought Cirie was pretty much the only one you could root for going into the Game Changers endgame. I mean, no knock on Sarah, whose game was pretty impressive in that mildly terrifying way that you rarely see nowadays, but I feel like even she would admit that she wasn't exactly "likable" that season. Who the Hell else could we root for? Aubry and Troyzan were barely there, Tai was a flaky lunatic, and Brad Culpepper was... Brad Culpepper. The season after DvG has four returnees so... 'a little bit' being three seasons, I guess.
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Dec 19, 2018 00:17
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I just finished up a dumb offsite Survivor game in which the twist was that literally everybody got an idol. After we finally managed to flush all of the idols at merge, there was a BB-style Christmas challenge in which literally everybody got even more advantages (there were maybe two disadvantages, between 11 people). My point here is that I still have a hint of the shakes and the way Cirie went out in Game Changers was beyond unfair and stupid and a huge production fail. Vote steal notwithstanding she played a satisfying game, especially after JT of all people nailed her premerge in HvV. I want another Borneo/Palau type return to innocence.
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Dec 19, 2018 05:59
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I want them to bring in 20 people who have never watched Survivor at a time where they introduced idols. So production will keep hiding idols and nobody will look for them. They'll be tearing their hair out by the third episode.
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Dec 19, 2018 07:10
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STAC Goat posted:Its sorta hilarious that Russell garnered this iconic reality game show fame by managing to walk the line of being a repugnant rear end in a top hat but not actually doing anything worse than burning a guy's socks even if you knew he had it in him. And then all his family members get cast and they turn out to not have the restraint Russel had and just start headbutting, stalking, and generally freaking the poo poo out of everyone. Hell of a legacy. I don't know about the other family members but Brandon was legit disturbing at points. Like put him on the show for 4 seasons and while he wouldn't win once I'm pretty sure he'd end up killing someone.
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Dec 19, 2018 07:21
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Brandon should honestly have never passed the psych evaluation to go on the show (I presume they have one to make sure you're not gonna go island crazy). Thankfully in his first season he ended up being (mostly) harmless, other than somehow getting Mikayla voted out.
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Dec 19, 2018 07:24
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I honestly wonder about psych. Are those meds included in the first aid kits? And then some mental disorders are serious dangers in that context but others would b reality TV gold.
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Dec 19, 2018 07:30
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Propaganda Machine posted:My point here is that I still have a hint of the shakes and the way Cirie went out in Game Changers was beyond unfair and stupid and a huge production fail. Vote steal notwithstanding she played a satisfying game, especially after JT of all people nailed her premerge in HvV. Cirie is one of my favorites but I feel like I’d rather not see her a fifth(!) time. I agree that the game changers advantage-geddon thing was dumb and unfair, but I think her archetype of “probably unbeatable at final tribal but also literally never winning a challenge” makes for dull gameplay.
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Dec 19, 2018 07:46
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Propaganda Machine posted:I honestly wonder about psych. Are those meds included in the first aid kits? And then some mental disorders are serious dangers in that context but others would b reality TV gold. yeah, people get their daily meds. Sleckman said after the season that she was told they would've provided her meds to her if they knew she'd been taking them.
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Dec 19, 2018 08:02
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Spokes posted:Cirie is one of my favorites but I feel like I’d rather not see her a fifth(!) time. I agree that the game changers advantage-geddon thing was dumb and unfair, but I think her archetype of “probably unbeatable at final tribal but also literally never winning a challenge” makes for dull gameplay. Totally agreed. They dip back into the well far too often. Every season feels like it's either uncompelling returnees for outing number whatever, or okay newbies with a terrible and belabored theme. Like this one.
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Dec 19, 2018 08:44
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Propaganda Machine posted:Totally agreed. They dip back into the well far too often. Every season feels like it's either uncompelling returnees for outing number whatever, or okay newbies with a terrible and belabored theme. Like this one. The themes are terrible but almost everyone's agreed this season is very strong. And the themes usually don't matter after about halfway through the season. There's a good chance that a David will win in FTC if they're sitting there, but it's mostly because Nick and Davie have a great resume.
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Dec 19, 2018 08:58
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Kara's mom died before this season aired. She talks about it in interviews and some online confessionals. We're not seeing it in the show because she doesn't win. Likewise, we're getting a lot of Nick and Davie for a reason. The show has always gone out of it's way to get the audience on board with the winner. They're better about it this season, but there's still some nobodies going into finale because they don't want the audience too invested in them.
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