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The US is absolutely going to throw the Kurds overboard. Our track record with them is awful and what's worse is that they keep believing we are their friends and are going to help them with all manner of things up to and including a seperate Kurdish state. I feel bad for them because they seem unable to grasp that the US Gov't doesn't give a single dusty gently caress about their survival yet they cling to that hope like some kind of cold war "We're the Good Guys" propaganda. Keeping the US there will not help them at all.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I can understand why John Smith out of Nebraska who got a substandard K-12 education and then went to work in a factory for 20 years thinks this about the Civil Rights Movement. Not why a big shot international journalist thinks it. Unless they’re arguing in bad faith. yeah thats what bothers me too. glenn is a smart fucker alot of the time and he should know better. this isn't my aunt or uncle who doesn't remember poo poo about history outside the basic narrative.
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thegalagakid posted:The US is absolutely going to throw the Kurds overboard. Our track record with them is awful and what's worse is that they keep believing we are their friends and are going to help them with all manner of things up yo and including a seperate Kurdish state. I feel bad for them because they seem unable to grasp that the US Gov't doesn't give a single dusty gently caress about their survival yet they cling to that hope like some kind of cold war "We're the Good Guys" propaganda. Keeping the US there will not help them at all. i mean, we legit blamed iran for Halabja even though they were the only ones helping the kurds. i mean recent immigrant to Hell, HW Bush openly talked about how it was iran even though they all knew it was saddam. because we gave them the components to make the chemical weapons. it was only until the gulf war, where everyone admitted it was iraq.
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 https://twitter.com/nicole_hong/status/1075514494418386945?s=19 CNN also played a clip of him on Larry King in 1999 saying "nobody knows more about campaign laws than I do, because I donate so much" BigBallChunkyTime fucked around with this message at 01:36 on Dec 20, 2018 |
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To be fair he didn’t have brain worms back in the 80s.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:To be fair he didn’t have brain worms back in the 80s. yeah that was thirty years ago. This could all end with trump being declared unfit to stand trial.
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Dec 20, 2018 01:37
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CNN also showed clips of him talking about it in 1999 and 2012.
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lol @ any one who think the us will honor any kind of commitment past the point of sociopathic self interest
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Yeah what would happen if his lawyers argued that he has whatever the medical term for brain worms is? Case thrown out and then nothing, since no Republican would hold him accountable?
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Tiler Kiwi posted:lol @ any one who think the us will honor any kind of commitment past the point of sociopathic self interest Or past the point where the other party takes the government
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bilperkins2 posted:Yeah what would happen if his lawyers argued that he has whatever the medical term for brain worms is? Case thrown out and then nothing, since no Republican would hold him accountable? Neurosyphilis And you just can't rule it out after watching him.
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bilperkins2 posted:Yeah what would happen if his lawyers argued that he has whatever the medical term for brain worms is? Case thrown out and then nothing, since no Republican would hold him accountable? If Trump made a legal argument he wasn't competent to stand trial, I think people would have to take a hard look at the 25th amendment.
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bilperkins2 posted:Yeah what would happen if his lawyers argued that he has whatever the medical term for brain worms is? Case thrown out and then nothing, since no Republican would hold him accountable? Trump publicly attacks his lawyers for suggesting he doesn't have the best brain, just the best. And then the Republicans continue to do nothing.
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Was Reagan losing his mind known even in rumors among the general public at the time? Well either way Regan could still dress himself up and deliver speeches competently. Unlike Big Brain Donald.
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FizFashizzle posted:yeah that was thirty years ago. "Unfit to stand trial" will also be his impeachment defense.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Was Reagan losing his mind known even in rumors among the general public at the time? Oh yeah, right from the start people knew he was a little off. His last couple years he was really off the deep end and didn't make a lot of appearances. Watch the CNN doc on the 80's, they show some of his confused and clearly Alzheimers speeches.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Was Reagan losing his mind known even in rumors among the general public at the time? Oh yeah, that was a running joke.
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selec posted:[Jim Halpert, a cigarette dangling from his mouth, his right hand giving a thumbs up, his left pointing at hooded, nude man’s penis. Other nude men are visible in the background. He shrugs while looking directly into the camera] Can you walk us through a scenario where it is Russia that invades and occupies a country? Oh wait, you don’t have to, because we have seen how things played out in Georgia and Crimea.
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Leslie Stahl saw Reagan during one of his episodes and didn't report on it because decorum. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/01/reagan-alzheimers-family-feud-lesley-stahl/
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"... never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity" is a fantastic line.
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Dec 20, 2018 01:55
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How much money would you pay to get to watch Trump have to answer under oath in a court of law simple questions like “describe the process by which a bill becomes a law” and “what precipitated the Spanish-American War”
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thegalagakid posted:The US is absolutely going to throw the Kurds overboard. Our track record with them is awful and what's worse is that they keep believing we are their friends and are going to help them with all manner of things up to and including a seperate Kurdish state. I feel bad for them because they seem unable to grasp that the US Gov't doesn't give a single dusty gently caress about their survival yet they cling to that hope like some kind of cold war "We're the Good Guys" propaganda. Keeping the US there will not help them at all. How would keeping US troops there not help them? Erdogan's about to start an offensive against them and without US forces there he can pretty much indiscriminately massacre them with 0 repercussions. I'm not in favor of bombing anyone but I'm 100% for keeping US troops around Kurdish positions in Syria to deter Erdogan. One of my best friends is Kurdish (and lives on the Turkey/Syria border) so I'm probably biased but I think it's a travesty that Trump's abandoning them after they've been solid allies to us for decades while striving for a democratic state. My general sense from talking to her is that most Kurds aren't enamored with the US in the way you seem to think they are and that they realize it's an enemy-of-my-enemy situation, but I'm pretty sure if you asked any Kurd they'd much rather that we not just up and leave.
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Here comes a shutdown. Trump isn't going to like Fox & Friends using the word "retreat."
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Have you guys seen this poo poo now where people claim racism is just a "myth meant to divide us?" I've seen it like 3 times this week and am wondering if it's marching orders from somewhere
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Kai Tave posted:Racism, bigotry, etc. as concepts aren't going to be vanquished by deplatforming but there's a growing and compelling body of evidence that high-profile individuals who make a living by spouting hate are in fact far more hurt by deplatforming than they are by being confronted in the Marketplace of Ideas. I've been hearing the same "we can't shove racists, nazis, homophobes, etc. into a hole to be forgotten because then they'll be martyrs" thing for literal decades of my life and instead it seems like all giving these people an open and unrestricted platform into the homes of millions of people has done is embolden the worst parts of society to be even bigger shitheads. Convincing people of the evil and immorality of something only works when those things are viewed as a bug and not a feature. I mean, if logic and debate and reason worked on people like Milo, or literal nazis, they wouldn't be nazis in the first place. The Marketplace of Ideas very much has its limits, and people like that and way over on the other side of them.
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Have you guys seen this poo poo now where people claim racism is just a "myth meant to divide us?" I've seen it like 3 times this week and am wondering if it's marching orders from somewhere It's not at all new and a natural progression of "that's not racism because I believe that and I can't be racist". Now that more and more people are admitting what is racist, the next step is saying actually no racism doesn't even exist. Whomever you are talking to is a white supremacist btw, that's straight up nazi talk.
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Giggy posted:Leslie Stahl saw Reagan during one of his episodes and didn't report on it because decorum. That's honestly an insanely difficult choice to make, with the cold war still going strong. don't think a reporter would have a second thought reporting on Trump in the same condition if they observed him. I think I likely would have made the same choice as Stahl did, and it wouldn't be for decorum's sake so much as national.security's
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:That's honestly an insanely difficult choice to make, with the cold war still going strong. don't think a reporter would have a second thought reporting on Trump in the same condition if they observed him. I genuinely don't understand how you can type this unless you're in opposite world.
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Gnumonic posted:How would keeping US troops there not help them? Erdogan's about to start an offensive against them and without US forces there he can pretty much indiscriminately massacre them with 0 repercussions. I got some bad news for you about the US stepping up to actually prevent genocides. I also got some bad news for you about any plans the US might have about putting actual brigades up as a shield against the Turkish military, in that they're aren't going to be any. We didn't support them in '88, we didn't support them post-Gulf War I, II, and we don't support them now. Is it hosed up? Yes. Will it change? Absolutely not, as the Syria pullout shows. We will probably leave, the Turks roll in, a lot of Kurds will get killed, and in 10 years we will act like it never happened.
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Giggy posted:I genuinely don't understand how you can type this unless you're in opposite world. Grew up during the cold war and have read a lot about it as well. Letting the world know Reagan was mentally unfit would have been an existential threat to the country.
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:Grew up during the cold war and have read a lot about it as well. Letting the world know Reagan was mentally unfit would have been an existential threat to the country. Leaving a mentally unfit president in power is an existential threat to the world.
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Ate My Balls Redux posted:That's honestly an insanely difficult choice to make, with the cold war still going strong. don't think a reporter would have a second thought reporting on Trump in the same condition if they observed him. If you believe the Cold War USSR is enough of a threat not to report that the commander in chief isn't all there mentally and cause a fuss uh...wouldn't that actually be a reason you wouldn't want someone mentally unfit running things? I really don't get the pretzel logic here.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:https://twitter.com/TrumpsAlert/status/1075551378125148161 Her soul jar is finally starting to crack open?
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Giggy posted:Leaving a mentally unfit president in power is an existential threat to the world. Nah, there are nuclear safeguards in place. People who think Trump can just pick up the phone and launch are delusional. VH4Ever posted:If you believe the Cold War USSR is enough of a threat not to report that the commander in chief isn't all there mentally and cause a fuss uh...wouldn't that actually be a reason you wouldn't want someone mentally unfit running things? I really don't get the pretzel logic here. Leslie Stahl saw the president sitting quietly and not engaging with anyone. Not a manic episode where there seemed to be any danger of any harm. Not all mental illness or mental conditions are the same
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:https://twitter.com/TrumpsAlert/status/1075551378125148161 Going to assume Incel Ann is dragging him over the wall backdown?
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Was Reagan losing his mind known even in rumors among the general public at the time? His cabinet considered 25ing him. quote:Upon becoming the White House Chief of Staff in 1987, Howard Baker was advised by staff to prepare for a possible invocation of the Twenty-fifth Amendment[24] due to Reagan's perceived laziness and ineptitude.[25][26] According to Reagan biographer Edmund Morris, Baker's staff intended to use their first meeting with Reagan to evaluate whether he was "losing his mental grip." But Reagan "came in stimulated by the press of all these new people and performed splendidly."[25][26][27] Look up the horrifying Land of Confusion music video by Genesis.
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