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dont be mean to me
May 2, 2007

I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars


MonsieurChoc posted:

I want this to be the Chapo book.

it's a 'killer whale' RC car

no i won't even do the referral-stripped link

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DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

literally the only gfycat gif that's ever loaded on my phone.

Local Weather
Feb 12, 2005

Don't worry, I'll give you a sign. The sign will be that life is awesome
Here's something fun for holiday travellers:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12/20/gatwick-chaos-drones-cause-flights-cancelled-live-updates/

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Peanut President posted:

Kids faking that they're rich is old news, the only difference is now they're faking that some company bought them a shirt instead of their rich dad / girlfriend from canada. It's all just high school bullshit that most kids stop caring about once they hit 20.

they're not pretending to be rich

they're pretending that they got hired to shill products for companies, because they've grown up seeing the rich and famous do advertisements and product placement so ubiquitously that now they believe that's just what celebrities do

they see "being hired to squeeze obvious ads into your program" as a status symbol, an indication that one has "made it" to fame

it's like if a kid who wanted to be a racecar driver started covering their used 1980 Toyota with company logos because they think the mark of a successful racecar driver is having the most ads on their car, rather than being a good driver or having a willful disregard for the safety of themselves or those around them

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

Koishi Komeiji posted:

That's it? You just drive a car through a tunnel? I thought it was going to some futuristic Jetsons thing. That's like something a five year old would think up.

Hyper loop was always mostly about being an exclusive, private lane for the rich. This just strips it down to the essential experience.

Also lol that they can't get their autonomous car to go over 45 mph down a straight tunnel without training wheels.

Necrothatcher
Mar 26, 2005




Gatwick Airport has been crippled for nearly two days by person or persons unknown maliciously flying drones through the airspace.

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

drones are going to become extremely banned within ten years

qsvui
Aug 23, 2003
some crazy thing
inshallah

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

Prav posted:

drones are going to become extremely banned within ten years

for civilians

EugeneJ
Feb 5, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
All it takes to shut down American airspace is a $100 drone

I wonder if anyone else has take note of that fact

univbee
Jun 3, 2004




EugeneJ posted:

All it takes to shut down American airspace is a $100 drone

I wonder if anyone else has take note of that fact

Box cutters are cheaper and way more effective.

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3
Nov 15, 2003

Prav posted:

drones are going to become extremely banned within ten years

they will all be registered and gps tracked, with technology that prevents the drone from operating in restricted areas, which will probably include almost all public spaces

effectively banned, yeah.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:

they will all be registered and gps tracked, with technology that prevents the drone from operating in restricted areas, which will probably include almost all public spaces

effectively banned, yeah.

Good news is that RC enthusiasts will become badass outlaws with minimal effort on their part

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Drones have for a while been stuck in some unclear zone where they're already not exactly legal, but not specifically illegal either. At a certain height, airspace becomes totally regulated by the FAA. Right above the ground mostly belongs to whoever owns the ground. Drones fly around in-between, and don't really have any legal standing.

The FAA was supposed to sort this all out by 2015 and they did not.

Phone
Jul 30, 2005

親子丼をほしい。
thanks obama

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

univbee posted:

Box cutters are cheaper and way more effective.

that route tends to end in either death or learning to enjoy elbow-deep cavity searches

silentsnack has issued a correction as of 19:47 on Dec 20, 2018

Food Boner
Jul 2, 2005

Nothus posted:

Hyper loop was always mostly about being an exclusive, private lane for the rich. This just strips it down to the essential experience.

Also lol that they can't get their autonomous car to go over 45 mph down a straight tunnel without training wheels.

per the tesla/musk thread tesla just *happened* to have an employee on the payroll that was a former indy 500 driver who *volunteered* to drive the reporters through the *tunnel*

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Food Boner posted:

per the tesla/musk thread tesla just *happened* to have an employee on the payroll that was a former indy 500 driver who *volunteered* to drive the reporters through the *tunnel*

was it michael avenatti

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord

Food Boner posted:

per the tesla/musk thread tesla just *happened* to have an employee on the payroll that was a former indy 500 driver who *volunteered* to drive the reporters through the *tunnel*

Why do you need a highly trained performance driver to make sure your training-wheel equipped car can drive in a straight line?

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



Nothus posted:

Why do you need a highly trained performance driver to make sure your training-wheel equipped car can drive in a straight line?

if you disabled all the safety things that go on a normal car for non-professionals

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


Now streaming: Aspirational Hell World
https://www.hgtv.ca/shows/tiny-house-big-living/

Captain Billy Pissboy
Oct 25, 2005

by Nyc_Tattoo
College Slice
Can't wait for the hyper loop to open and immediately get stuck in a claustrophobic tunnel because someones car broke down

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Platystemon has issued a correction as of 03:23 on Dec 21, 2018

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG



hahahaha

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
What the hell is that thing hes holding lol. Is that one of the fancy net guns? It'd be way cooler if it was the microwave ray it looks like

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Larry Parrish posted:

What the hell is that thing hes holding lol. Is that one of the fancy net guns? It'd be way cooler if it was the microwave ray it looks like

SKYWALL 100

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6tT1GapCe4

jimmyjams
Jan 10, 2001


King Kong of Megadongs
Gobblin' them mega schlongs
Makin' sure they mega long
Stroke' 'em if they mega strong
the russians used a shotgun

Bushiz
Sep 21, 2004

The #1 Threat to Ba Sing Se

Grimey Drawer

Fat-Lip-Sum-41.mp3 posted:

they will all be registered and gps tracked, with technology that prevents the drone from operating in restricted areas, which will probably include almost all public spaces

effectively banned, yeah.

drones are dirt simple and dirt cheap to build for anyone with any sort of malicious or mischievous intent. What component can you ban that isn't incredibly onerous and overbroad?

Elman
Oct 26, 2009

jimmyjams posted:

the russians used a shotgun

Or maybe they'll just use something like this.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

Bushiz posted:

drones are dirt simple and dirt cheap to build for anyone with any sort of malicious or mischievous intent. What component can you ban that isn't incredibly onerous and overbroad?

Control the precision accelerometers and gyroscopes necessary for good dead reckoning.

This doesn’t prevent drones from working. What it does remove their fallback option so they’re in trouble when you jam their control and satellite navigation frequencies.

The obvious next step on this cat-and-mouse game is computer vision, but that’s currently a hard problem and when it can be done, it’s going to suck down battery juice, which is some small consolation.

silentsnack
Mar 19, 2009

Donald John Trump (born June 14, 1946) is the 45th and current President of the United States. Before entering politics, he was a businessman and television personality.

Platystemon posted:

Control the precision accelerometers and gyroscopes necessary for good dead reckoning.

This doesn’t prevent drones from working. What it does remove their fallback option so they’re in trouble when you jam their control and satellite navigation frequencies.

The obvious next step on this cat-and-mouse game is computer vision, but that’s currently a hard problem and when it can be done, it’s going to suck down battery juice, which is some small consolation.

Thing is, someone with $5k to blow can just smuggle bootleg accelerometers from china for their DIY cruise missile (with enough cash left for building two or three drones for redundancy)

Technology genie is out of the bottle.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

or pry them out of a $500 VR headset

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
VR headsets don’t have to use accelerometers and gyroscopes. Their orientation and movement can be measured against fixed objects around them.

Smuggling will always be an issue for every illicit material, but the technology here is a lot more sophisticated than a gun’s and those have been successfully controlled in many countries. Way more MEMS chips fit in a smuggler’s pocket than guns, and they’re easier to disguise as something benign (i.e. legal chips). Still, how big is the demand for smuggling? Guns are more widely useful to criminals than gyroscopes are.

I’m not saying that controlling these chips is an actual good idea, but it’s something that could be seriously attempted and is thematically appropriate for a lovely cyberpunk dystopia.

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
you're never going to be able to prevent someone from building a drone unless you ban the entire hobbyist electronics industry. like all arduinos, raspberry pi's, STM chips, any little development board that can execute code basically. "advanced" gyros and accelerometers are less than 50 cents a piece now or can be pulled out of a garbage dumped nintendo wii's, the code to run these things has always been open sourced Github stuff and if that goes underground there will always be other sources.

And if you build your own its beholden to NONE of the geo restrictions that a DJI product is and most likely never will be unless every open source flight controller project all decide to implement it, and even if they did someone would just compile a version that skipped the GPS/license check. It's a tough problem to solve and the cat is already WAY the gently caress out of the bag

Platystemon posted:

VR headsets don’t have to use accelerometers and gyroscopes. Their orientation and movement can be measured against fixed objects around them.

Smuggling will always be an issue for every illicit material, but the technology here is a lot more sophisticated than a gun’s and those have been successfully controlled in many countries. Way more MEMS chips fit in a smuggler’s pocket than guns, and they’re easier to disguise as something benign (i.e. legal chips). Still, how big is the demand for smuggling? Guns are more widely useful to criminals than gyroscopes are.

I’m not saying that controlling these chips is an actual good idea, but it’s something that could be seriously attempted and is thematically appropriate for a lovely cyberpunk dystopia.
There isn't really "advanced" gyroscopes and accelerometers being used here. Maybe they have special poo poo in the military that could be controlled but anything you're ever going to find in a hobbyist or professional capacity will 99% of the time be a variation of the TDK invensense Gyro/Accelerometer chip. There's an MPU-6000, 6050, 6500, ICM-20608, ICM-20680, package size: 4x4x0.9 mm

https://store.invensense.com/Products/Detail/MPU6000-TDK-InvenSense/420595/

But they all pretty much do the same thing with different levels of sensitivity and features. These are in EVERYTHING. dollar store light that turns on when you shake it? might have one of these. Every mobile device pumped out of china? at LEAST one of these. every spare nintendo wii nunchuck ever built? two of these. Plus every game controller built since then. There seriously might be more of these gyros in existence as there are guns, they are that ubiquitous, they get used in situations where a tilt switch could do the job.

bring back old gbs has issued a correction as of 12:17 on Dec 21, 2018

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

Platystemon posted:

Control the precision accelerometers and gyroscopes necessary for good dead reckoning.

This doesn’t prevent drones from working. What it does remove their fallback option so they’re in trouble when you jam their control and satellite navigation frequencies.

The obvious next step on this cat-and-mouse game is computer vision, but that’s currently a hard problem and when it can be done, it’s going to suck down battery juice, which is some small consolation.

ISIS has already adapted their drone bombs to use the camera to navigate instead of GPS iirc

Farm Frenzy
Jan 3, 2007

rare cool cyberpunk thing??? https://twitter.com/David_Rudnick/status/1075848998093799424

eSports Chaebol
Feb 22, 2005

Yeah, actually, gamers in the house forever,

Peanut President posted:

That's dumb too, don't get me wrong I'm just seeing some "THE KIDS ARE BEING RUINED" like we weren't.

It isn’t about the kids per se; it’s that marketing truly is more ubiquitous and insidious than before. It isn’t just that people are emulating influencers: they are simulating marketing in a hyperreal sense. The end game here is eliminating the distinction between personal expression and advertising entirely. Once again the cyberpunk dystopia is revealing itself to be less Neuromancer and more Snow Crash

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

eSports Chaebol posted:

they are simulating marketing in a hyperreal sense

no, what they’re doing is marketing, they’re just not getting paid for it.

tino
Jun 4, 2018

by Smythe
While shopping in FarreFour (a French based supermarket chain) in GZ China, I saw they have the "face payment" option in their automatic cashier machines. I thought you guys would get a kick out of it.

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Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



carrefour and/or the chinese govt need to look up adversarial attacks :cmon:

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