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video game ads, especially for RPGs or slow-burn games, are always misleading. I still laugh every time I see the New Vegas trailers that try to make it look like a great action FPS.
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:pc gaming is laughable yeah i just constantly lol while playing pc games, just laughing and having a great time
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Dec 20, 2018 20:25
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QuarkJets posted:yeah i just constantly lol while playing pc games, just laughing and having a great time so, weeping while jacking off...or....?
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Dec 20, 2018 20:56
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:so, weeping while jacking off...or....? nah i only jack it when i'm playing a Bioware or Witcher game, the rest of the time i'm just having a good time and laughing out loud
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Dec 20, 2018 21:01
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Halser posted:video game ads, especially for RPGs or slow-burn games, are always misleading. I still laugh every time I see the New Vegas trailers that try to make it look like a great action FPS. I always laugh when something is advertised as 'gameplay trailer' means they did some editing on some of the game's pre-rendered cinematics.
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Dec 20, 2018 21:03
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QuarkJets posted:nah i only jack it when i'm playing a Bioware or Witcher game, the rest of the time i'm just having a good time and laughing out loud I'll leave you to your humorous trash then, noble goon
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Dec 20, 2018 21:07
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food court bailiff posted:not an opinion but i have been messing with this super weird old NES game called Nightshade and it is so bizarre i had to look it up and make sure it wasn't someone's 8-but game jam entry or something, it's kind of cool Man I loving love nightshade as a concept but the combat sucks, not to mention that the interface can be a bit unwieldy. The humour is good and the dialogue is real fun
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Dec 20, 2018 21:11
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Furia posted:Man I loving love nightshade as a concept but the combat sucks, not to mention that the interface can be a bit unwieldy. The humour is good and the dialogue is real fun i thought the combat was kind of ahead of its time just in terms of how fast it manages to be, but so far i have done very little of it the interface is atrocious though, yeah, spent ages walking past toki's crowbar without figuring out how to pick it up instead of read it but it's like Spider-Man Noir as an NES game and it made a joke about delicious nuts and everything about it except maybe the music is really 110% great e: btw i am messing with it because i got one of those handheld retro TEN MILLION GAMES IN ONE - PLUS TETRIS! things for xmas from a relative and tossed batteries in to be polite, only to discover that it has like half of Capcom's NES library on there and a bunch of insane cool poo poo from Data East as well as other bizarre stuff. even the buttons on this thing feel great, they're like springy NES buttons. the screen blows rear end chunks but honestly it is way way cooler than i expected it to be when i opened the package. the box heavily advertises mega man 2 but when you turn it on GASP it also has the much-superior mega man 3, and commando, and ghosts n goblins... Rockman Reserve fucked around with this message at 21:59 on Dec 20, 2018 |
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Dec 20, 2018 21:55
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here's a cool unpopular videogame opinion for ya Video games are better than movies at retelling a book. A book is a book, a video game is the cliffnotes, a movie is a drunk guy at a bar explaining the book to you. Movie's more entertaining but you miss out on a whole lot.
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Dec 20, 2018 22:09
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I don't know, the harry potter movies were a lot better at telling those stories than the games, and the godfather game was okay and didn't tell the story of the book very well but the movie was great I think that's really a ymmv judgement
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Dec 20, 2018 22:16
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jokes posted:here's a cool unpopular videogame opinion for ya I dunno, they all do different things and often try to cop each other's method but mostly fail.
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Dec 20, 2018 22:26
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I'm not saying they're better or worse productions. I'm saying as a medium video games are better suited to be a better adaptation of a novel than a movie.
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Dec 20, 2018 22:28
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jokes posted:I'm not saying they're better or worse productions. I'm saying as a medium video games are better suited to be a better adaptation of a novel than a movie. I think in theory that's true but I'm having trouble thinking of even 1 example where that's the case. Like, was Silent Hill based on a book? That'd be a good example if it was
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Dec 20, 2018 22:34
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El Shaddai is better than the book its based on, and despite being a bit of a bomb, still may have had a wider audience than its source material
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Barudak posted:El Shaddai is better than the book its based on, and despite being a bit of a bomb, still may have had a wider audience than its source material el shaddai was fuckin' cool as hell but uh it's source material is biblical apocrypha, right? like i'm pretty sure the Bible Deluxe Edition: Deleted Scenes probably have more of a reach than a low-run ps3 beat 'em up was there a specific work it was closely tied to that i didn't know or something? because that would be cool
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Dec 20, 2018 22:47
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jokes posted:I'm not saying they're better or worse productions. I'm saying as a medium video games are better suited to be a better adaptation of a novel than a movie. Maybe, simply due to length. But that really depends on the editing process and how well it meshes with production design, etc. It really comes down to the material and who's adapting it.
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Dec 20, 2018 22:47
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Does I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream count?
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QuarkJets posted:I think in theory that's true but I'm having trouble thinking of even 1 example where that's the case. Like, was Silent Hill based on a book? That'd be a good example if it was parasite eve
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Dec 20, 2018 22:48
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David Cage has demonstrated movies and books to be obsolete.
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steinrokkan posted:David Cage has demonstrated movies and books to be obsolete.
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QuarkJets posted:I think in theory that's true but I'm having trouble thinking of even 1 example where that's the case. Like, was Silent Hill based on a book? That'd be a good example if it was Generally you don't get games directly based on books, like actual retellings of the book, like movies try to do. Instead it's something new based on the book, even in the case of something like I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream, which is a broad expansion of a short story with a totally different ending. A notable pretty accurate retelling of a book in a game was The Black Cauldron. In general I'd say movies are better at book adaptations than games are, at least with the examples we have so far, and games are much better at telling new stories in the same world. Games have potential to be good retellings of stories from books, but most of the time gameplay elements added to make them games are too much to add to a good book's story. Movies can be good retellings of books, but are often too short unless you're talking about something like a Carl Hiaasen book. I mean, are you really gonna make a good game out of To Kill A Mockingbird? What video game genre is Gone With The Wind?
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food court bailiff posted:el shaddai was fuckin' cool as hell but uh it's source material is biblical apocrypha, right? like i'm pretty sure the Bible Deluxe Edition: Deleted Scenes probably have more of a reach than a low-run ps3 beat 'em up Its based primarily on an apocryphal book, but lots of its finer details (like while the final realm is an upside down triangle or why there is only one "villain" in the game) are from even more obscure versions/apocryphal stories based on the apocryphal book.
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signalnoise posted:I mean, are you really gonna make a good game out of To Kill A Mockingbird? it would either have to be a really lovely side scroller, or phoenix wright
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Dec 20, 2018 22:57
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The fade in dragon age was actually pretty fun.
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aegof posted:Does I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream count? The game was god awful and didn't tell the story well at all. Was it also made into a movie?
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Dec 21, 2018 00:25
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the hitchhikers' guide game was probably better than the movie at capturing the feel of the books tbh it was also like, written by douglas adams though, so that may have been a factor
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Dec 21, 2018 00:38
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Ellison was heavily involved in the I Have No Mouth game and it was actually v good
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food court bailiff posted:the hitchhikers' guide game was probably better than the movie at capturing the feel of the books tbh It was also intentionally designed to gently caress with the player by providing situations from the book that would get you killed if you did what was done in the book.
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Dec 21, 2018 01:35
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That fuckin game was great but was also infinite bullshit. The very first puzzle in the game is that you have to specifically "lay down in front of bulldozer" beg bc that's what Arthur does in the book, but there is literally zero in game hint about this, typing "block bulldozer" didn't work, nor did "stand in front of bulldozer". It sucked bc I had the game before I read it
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Dec 21, 2018 03:51
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Solaris by Lem would make for a great adventure game adaptation in the style of I Have No Mouth
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precision posted:That fuckin game was great but was also infinite bullshit. The very first puzzle in the game is that you have to specifically "lay down in front of bulldozer" beg bc that's what Arthur does in the book, but there is literally zero in game hint about this, typing "block bulldozer" didn't work, nor did "stand in front of bulldozer". It sucked bc I had the game before I read it Oh yeah, youre totally boned at multiple points if you didnt read the book and god help you if you didnt take your mail at the beginning of the game among many other things. If Douglas Adam's name was on the box you were about to have a bad time One of his other games, bureaucracy, is similarly brutal but has an excellent starting joke. You have to fill in an information card prior to starting the game and a bunch of information is then messed with and everyone in the game goes off this wrong information, from a different spelling of your name to a the opposite gender you selected.
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I thought bureaucracy was super hard but fair, as in you could actually figure out the puzzles eventually. The only one I recall being stuck on was the whole "write a negative number on a deposit slip then go to the withdrawal window" thing which was just bonkers logic
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precision posted:That fuckin game was great but was also infinite bullshit. The very first puzzle in the game is that you have to specifically "lay down in front of bulldozer" beg bc that's what Arthur does in the book, but there is literally zero in game hint about this, typing "block bulldozer" didn't work, nor did "stand in front of bulldozer". It sucked bc I had the game before I read it That’s as far as I ever got because it was just one of a pile of floppies with games on it and I had never read the book (at age 9)
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signalnoise posted:I mean, are you really gonna make a good game out of To Kill A Mockingbird? What video game genre is Gone With The Wind? Yes, ARPG for both-- To Kill A Mockingbird has an anime Pheonix Wright portion though, and Gone With The Wind's character screen is just that Kim Kardashian phone game.
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jokes posted:Yes, ARPG for both. Light gun game actually
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Whoa really fuckin amateur hour over here It’s obvious a rhythm game
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Dec 21, 2018 05:37
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The Evil Within was not only better than The Evil Within 2 it was massively better.
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Dec 21, 2018 05:42
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christmas boots posted:Whoa really fuckin amateur hour over here It plays like a Thief game but Scarlett doesn't avoid guards, just responsibility and evidence of mistreatment of slaves.
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Dec 21, 2018 05:46
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With the exception of Nintendo, any time a game hits #3 in a modern franchise, it's better to let it die and just release any/every sequel you wanted to make with a whole new title unrelated to it. No more title/subtitle/number games Just act like you haven't made a single 'Call of Duty' game for like 12 years so you, the audience and the gaming press can all pretend you're churning out fresh IPs all the time. That way when things get lovely you can also act like, "Call of Duty is BACK" when you finally run out of ideas and want to revive a fan favorite.
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I played call of duty 2 recently actually and it holds up really well. Graphically, no, but gunning down my friends was funner there than in modern titles. Although I suppose it was rough having faction-based kits, but there also weren't killstreaks so.
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