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| Up North |
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70 | 41.92% |
| New York |
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21 | 12.57% |
| Titan |
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12 | 7.19% |
| Stamford |
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18 | 10.78% |
| The XXX Porno Wrestling on the Other Channel |
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46 | 27.54% |
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Benne posted:One of the most important qualities of a good journalist is not necessarily being the first to break a story -- it's the followup coverage that really matters. Dave has always been great at digging into stories as they develop, updating, and providing the greater context as he goes along unpacking new details. It's a very meat-and-potatoes slow-burn style of journalism, which often gets lost over a fandom conditioned to sensationalist DIRSTSHEETZ NEWZ SCOOPZ type coverage. The New Japan of pro wrestling journalism.
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Dec 21, 2018 08:49
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dave is the memphis of journalism
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Dec 21, 2018 09:58
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I can't wait for HLA, JR! HLA!! HLA!!!
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Dec 21, 2018 10:06
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why was mel phillips so protected?
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Dec 21, 2018 10:50
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Did 3MW stiff the women intentionally, or were they just unsafe workers?
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Dec 21, 2018 11:44
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ThePariah posted:Did 3MW stiff the women intentionally, or were they just unsafe workers? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6gcO2ofTJk
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Dec 21, 2018 11:58
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ThePariah posted:Did 3MW stiff the women intentionally, or were they just unsafe workers? They had a habit of stiffing people
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Dec 21, 2018 17:25
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The Liz's death thing made me hate Lex Luger for loving years until I finally actually sat down and considered that maybe WWE shouldn't push narratives that aren't even consistent at all with actual police investigations. HLA thing was the sort of juvenile puerility that WWE's pre-PG era specialized in but I totally forgot 3 Minute Warning legit injured the women.
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Dec 21, 2018 18:42
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coconono posted:The Liz's death thing made me hate Lex Luger for loving years until I finally actually sat down and considered that maybe WWE shouldn't push narratives that aren't even consistent at all with actual police investigations. I mean you should still hate Lex, he was abusive. Tampering vs Meltzer is in its last few minutes and is currently 51/49 Tampering with 350+ votes. Wild.
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Dec 21, 2018 19:37
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Gonna think hard on this one cause underpaying talent is awful and lord knows the talent won't sniff one cent of TV money but the Drew thing speaks to a lot of the internal problems the company has in its culture
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Dec 21, 2018 22:01
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I went with underpaying talent because it's an awful thing that has/is happening to way more people.
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Dec 21, 2018 22:59
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voted for underpaying talent because burying Drew was justified
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Dec 21, 2018 23:09
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Seams posted:why was mel phillips so protected? But it also seems like: * It wasn't being taken seriously (especially by Vince). * Mel was being protected by Terry Garvin. * On the wrestler side, not everyone knew about the young boys part. Bret Hart, in his book, mentioned a referee rooming with Mel and waking up to Phillips sucking on his toe ("So I asked him to stop!"). Then, shortly after he was gone, the bus during a European tour was greeted by a bunch of kids asking where Mel was.
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Dec 21, 2018 23:27
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Voted for peak capitalism, death to all CEOs
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Dec 22, 2018 00:06
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Underpaying wrestlers. They ultimately brought Drew back and he's at least nominally satisfied with his deal, whereas between the ending of PPV payouts and the incredible amounts of money they're getting from foreign shows and TV deals the underpaying has only gotten substantially worse with time.
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Dec 22, 2018 00:43
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And yet they can get away with it because they're still the best-paying game in town. ...gently caress...poo poo. I wish guys like AJ and Nakamura and (perhaps) Kenny and the Bucks could just be "Nah, NJPW pays better" but WWE's lowball poo poo is still apparently better than the best NJPW can do. (Unless WWE really breaks the bell curve to sign guys like that) This is of course where unions come in but bullshit labor practices blah blah blah nothing is changing without outside intervention which isn't coming because people got way better poo poo to worry about. Also: It occurs to me that I don't actually know any reporters on Twitter.
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Dec 22, 2018 02:27
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The problem has always been that WWE has a global reach that no other company can match. Its the place to go to if you have a lot of wrestling bucket list items to tick off.
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TV Zombie posted:In going through this poll, I know it's obvious but it's struck me how even after death, WWE will still try to make money off of your corpse or something similarly disrespectful. Give it five years and they'll have Classic PPVs with simulations/holograms of dead wrestlers.
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Dec 22, 2018 03:21
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https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1076307336464076800 I have to admit the Stephanie thing is so weird I wasn't even going to include it since I don't think it's offensive... but it's so crazy that it needs to be included.
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Dec 22, 2018 03:55
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Both are pretty bad, I chose the DV one because it's a little closer to the heart due to my line of work but fully see the arguments for the underpaying as well. E: xpost
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Dec 22, 2018 04:06
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The McMahon being carny trash will always come second to involving someone else.
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Dec 22, 2018 05:35
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Voted Trish over Steph because if there's a victim in the Steph/Vince thing it's Steph and Vince and they both had the power to stop that stupid idea from seeing daylight.
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Dec 22, 2018 05:37
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Poor Drew. What happened to him was really horrible but there's no way he's winning against economically exploiting every wrestler that has ever worked for the company. Trish should beat Stephanie in a landslide here for the reasons everyone has said. She is an actual victim of sexual harassment in that situation and Stephanie was a willing participant in her storyline.
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Dec 22, 2018 06:33
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The Steph angle did lead to one of the most uncomfortable matches in WWE history.
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Dec 22, 2018 06:42
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Rick posted:Both are pretty bad, I chose the DV one because it's a little closer to the heart due to my line of work but fully see the arguments for the underpaying as well. Taryn Terrell has admitted fault in that situation. She was really troubled. Her current partner is an angle pretty much that saved her. Her and Drew are on friendly terms to my knowledge. Creatively Drew buried himself not knowing how to approach WWE writers. Would address them in a commanding manner. This tall and had an interrogative Scottish accent. When a suggestive stance was WAY better.
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Dec 22, 2018 06:50
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Trish easily here given that it was somebody who couldn't say no, but the Stephanie angle says alt about Vince and the family and it's not good
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Dec 22, 2018 07:01
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El Gallinero Gros posted:The Steph angle did lead to one of the most uncomfortable matches in WWE history. Was this the match that happened like the Sunday before Steph and Hunter got hitched, leading Linda to tell Vince to not leave a single bruise on her? Which is so hosed up when you consider a mother telling a father "do not beat up our daughter enough that her wedding photos will be ruined", it's the carniest poo poo
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Dec 22, 2018 09:53
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What I love about Kurt Angle is that out of context the 'I want to tap out Jesus' promo absolutely should be on this list. But the whole point was that he was so good he could say anything he wanted and still get cheered. And he was right! He flat out said he wasn't a fan of 'the black people'!! He actually put air quotes around 'black people'!!
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Dec 22, 2018 15:29
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CityMidnightJunky posted:What I love about Kurt Angle is that out of context the 'I want to tap out Jesus' promo absolutely should be on this list. But the whole point was that he was so good he could say anything he wanted and still get cheered. And he was right! And like a decade later, HHH would publicly support Hulk Hogan, then feud with Roman Reigns, who has a black wife, and be massively supported by most of the voters in this thing! Wrestling is bad.
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Dec 22, 2018 15:35
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CityMidnightJunky posted:What I love about Kurt Angle is that out of context the 'I want to tap out Jesus' promo absolutely should be on this list. But the whole point was that he was so good he could say anything he wanted and still get cheered. And he was right! are you forgetting when kurt called sharmell a gutterslut and said that he wanted to have "bestiality sex" with her
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Dec 22, 2018 15:37
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i thought vince wrote the bestiality sex line
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Dec 22, 2018 16:15
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Kurt still said it.
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Dec 22, 2018 16:25
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wwe confuses me so much Imagine having a once in a lifetime talent like Kurt Angle, and thinking you have to put him in a racist cuckold angle to draw money
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Dec 22, 2018 17:13
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remember when vince russo had faction warfare of nazi bikers vs black nationalists vs puerto ricans please add this to the nit
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Low Desert Punk posted:wwe confuses me so much Vince has issues with amateur wrestlers/jocks. I forgot the details but it goes back to his high school experiences.
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Dec 22, 2018 17:33
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The Cameo posted:Was this the match that happened like the Sunday before Steph and Hunter got hitched, leading Linda to tell Vince to not leave a single bruise on her? Unless I'm mixing angles/matches up, it was long after they got married and came about because Vince felt she'd done a poor job of running RAW. Match ended with Vince choking her out with a lead pipe after taking 80% of the match
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Dec 22, 2018 17:46
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oh god Vince is the nerd from the Charles Atlas bodybuilding ads isn't he WWE is just a massive Revenge of the Nerds, no wonder it's a reprehensible hellhole El Gallinero Gros posted:Unless I'm mixing angles/matches up, it was long after they got married and came about because Vince felt she'd done a poor job of running RAW. Match ended with Vince choking her out with a lead pipe after taking 80% of the match I don't think Stephanie ever ran RAW until the Authority angle, and it looks like their match was at No Mercy 2003: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6141vx and wikipedia says she and Hunter got married on October 25th of that year. I have zero idea why I retained as much information about this match as I did, I literally was not even watching the product at the time The Cameo fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Dec 22, 2018 |
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Unless I'm mixing angles/matches up, it was long after they got married and came about because Vince felt she'd done a poor job of running RAW. Match ended with Vince choking her out with a lead pipe after taking 80% of the match The match happened October 19th 2003, the wedding was October 25th.
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Low Desert Punk posted:wwe confuses me so much Not that the Sharmell thing wasn't terrible but as I recall it was more they Kurt knew he was so over that no one cared if he said terribly offensive stuff because he'd still get cheers anyway.
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