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Coffee And Pie posted:Is that a genre of stores? And how would you make money off of someone getting arrested? You see these stores at the mall, they have names like Claire's, Justice, etc. "Justice" is a little on-the-nose, come to think of it. Tubgoat has a new favorite as of 21:34 on Dec 22, 2018 |
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First responders shouldn't be classified as Heroes because they're getting paid for what they do. Edit: a word.
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Dec 22, 2018 21:34
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safe harbor posted:First responders shouldn't be classified as Heroes because they're getting paid for what they do. While I did this for five years as a medic, I must point out that the average pay for an EMT in Arizona until 2016 was $9.60/hour, and for a paramedic it was $10.55. We unionized (a two-year battle with more than $400,000 in court costs), and it raised to...$10.60 for EMTs and $13.80 for paramedics. Just for context. Also, like, zero people actually doing the job itself call themselves "heroes." It's really only a talking point for heads on the news, or facebook remembrance pages. We're just, like, going to work. So your opinion doesn't really have any teeth with the people in the jobs themselves, and I don't quite understand where you got the viewpoint or why it's that important to you. Queen Combat has a new favorite as of 21:44 on Dec 22, 2018 |
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Dec 22, 2018 21:39
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Queen Combat posted:While I did this for five years as a medic, I must point out that the average pay for an EMT in Arizona until 2016 was $9.60/hour, and for a paramedic it was $10.55. We unionized (a two-year battle with more than $400,000 in court costs), and it raised to...$10.60 for EMTs and $13.80 for paramedics. Just for context. Yeah, it is literally y'all's jobs to be heroes and you'll never be paid enough for it, like even if the pay were approaching fair. That having been said, if you rescue someone whose rescue will put them in inescapable debt, pocket their identifying credentials, log them as a John Doe and mail them back their stuff on the sly once they've been healed.
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Dec 22, 2018 21:42
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Queen Combat posted:While I did this for five years as a medic, I must point out that the average pay for an EMT in Arizona until 2016 was $9.60/hour, and for a paramedic it was $10.55. We unionized (a two-year battle with more than $400,000 in court costs), and it raised to...$10.60 for EMTs and $13.80 for paramedics. Just for context. “Hey, at least other people get paid even worse wages so it’s fine!!”-all those drat facebook memes
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Whoa no disagreement with the third world hellhole that the US's medical system is re: debt. First touch/transport for an EMT is state mandated at $648 minimum, around $800 for a paramedic, and $1200 for a nurse ambulance transport (those are a thing in some areas). This country is hosed, and I guess in a weird way we're all in agreement on this page. Queen Combat has a new favorite as of 21:49 on Dec 22, 2018 |
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Dec 22, 2018 21:46
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Hero isn't really a label one can self-apply because even under the most justified circumstances, it comes off as conceited.
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Dec 22, 2018 21:53
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I am the most conceited and admitting that means I am the most heroic.
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Dec 22, 2018 22:15
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It is very foolish to have “heroes”.
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Dec 22, 2018 22:43
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Heroes should be on a person by person basis. Like you can easily be a hero in one person's mind for various reasons, but that doesn't entitle you to special treatment from anybody else. Unless a "hero" directly impacted your life, you have no obligation to treat them like one, and I'm sure most would appreciate it if people would stop kissing their feet for just doing their job.
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I guess we should start by asking, what does "hero" mean. yeah I eat rear end seems to think being a hero means special treatment and getting your feet kissed, from one person if no one else. To me that seems tangentially related at best. Heroism is an action, something you do, maybe just once and not witnessed by anyone. It's a moment in which you overcome yourself, your fears and limitations, and do something unusual. Something most people in the same situation would and could not do. Solice Kirsk posted:Santa Clarita Diet is also amazing Watched a few episodes so far, and yeah, good stuff. doverhog has a new favorite as of 00:07 on Dec 23, 2018 |
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Dec 23, 2018 00:05
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Any non-nazi who killed a nazi is a hero. That's the only standard. Yes, that means that there were no heroes before the 1930s. Yes, that means that heart disease and auto accidents are heroes.
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Dec 23, 2018 00:08
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doverhog posted:I guess we should start by asking, what does "hero" mean. yeah I eat rear end seems to think being a hero means special treatment and getting your feet kissed, from one person if no one else. To me that seems tangentially related at best. I didn't mean it literally. As much as I hate to associate with him because of what he has done to my youtube recommended videos, Bill Burr put it best. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCaljpu1bW4
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Dec 23, 2018 00:09
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American soldiers serving in wars started by the war criminal Dick Cheney and his puppet certainly aren't "heroes" in most ways, but they still could've done something heroic.
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Dec 23, 2018 00:12
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And it's fine to recognize that but not all police/firemen/military are heroes but we're all expected to treat them like one. I'm just saying, if their heroism had no effect on you, you can still consider them a hero but it's dumb to grovel at their feet as if they are your savior.
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Dec 23, 2018 00:16
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Even if it did have a direct effect on you, you should never grovel at their feet.
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Dec 23, 2018 00:18
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Some firemen are quite awful. Maybe not most but a lot are. I don't buy their calenders.
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Dec 23, 2018 00:18
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doverhog posted:Even if it did have a direct effect on you, you should never grovel at their feet. I'm not being literal. I mean, if a fireman actually saved the life of my family or myself, i'd be very grateful and feel obliged to pay him back in some way, even though he was just doing his job. I don't feel the same way about his buddy who saved another family, because he didn't do anything for me. I still consider the other guy a good guy, but there isn't the same sense of being in their debt.
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Ok dude but you are the one using these very submissive phrases. How about a firm handshake and a thank you sir.
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doverhog posted:Even if it did have a direct effect on you, you should never grovel at their feet. don't kink shame
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doverhog posted:Ok dude but you are the one using these very submissive phrases. How about a firm handshake and a thank you sir. idk I feel like if a cop saved my family from being brutally murdered i'd at least feel like I owe him a christmas card and maybe a nice pie or something, i don't know, if that makes me submissive 
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Dec 23, 2018 00:27
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I hate people who shake my hand firmly In fact I hate all hand shakers, that is gross and tied up in dumbass masculinity to boot!
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Dec 23, 2018 00:34
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I hate people who shake my hand firmly Handshake strength needs to be congruent with the shakee. If it's a frail old person, be gentle. If it's just some guy, do it normally. If they are squeezing so hard it hurts, do it back.
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I did not mean any sort of dominance display with "firm handshake", just a ritual a fire/cop/war man might appreciate as you say thanks. A limp handshake feels wrong, there is some gripping involved. However anyone who does it hard enough for it to be painful is far off the right path. doverhog has a new favorite as of 00:57 on Dec 23, 2018 |
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Gripweed posted:Any non-nazi who killed a nazi is a hero. That's the only standard. Yes, that means that there were no heroes before the 1930s. Yes, that means that heart disease and auto accidents are heroes. A nazi who destroys the lives of other nazis (and almost always their own) is an hero
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MizPiz posted:A nazi who destroys the lives of other nazis (and almost always their own) is an hero By that logic, you're calling Hitler a hero
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Gripweed posted:By that logic, you're calling Hitler a hero Well, I mean, he did kill Hitler.
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Nazi watches are popular but people just call them Flieger watches to feel better about themselves. They are for the Nazi air force.
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Mu Zeta posted:Nazi watches are popular but people just call them Flieger watches to feel better about themselves. They are for the Nazi air force. Ist dast nicht jetzt die Luftwaffe?
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Yes the luftwaffe that operated during the Nazi regime I own one too and like it but let's just call it what it is.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I hate people who shake my hand firmly you're correct but it's something so firmly established like eye contact ot saying hello being opposed to it makes you seem weird so maybe pick your battles
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Gripweed posted:Any non-nazi who killed a nazi is a hero. That's the only standard. Yes, that means that there were no heroes before the 1930s. Yes, that means that heart disease and auto accidents are heroes. Anyone who kills a dragon is a hero. That's the standard. Bearded, komodo or flying, any one counts. It's cruel and pointless, but that's just the way it is.
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Gripweed posted:By that logic, you're calling Hitler a hero Was hoping someone else caught it before my flight https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=an%20hero
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Tiggum posted:Anyone who kills a dragon is a hero. That's the standard. Bearded, komodo or flying, any one counts. It's cruel and pointless, but that's just the way it is. If you kill a dragon, in the Tolkien sense, you are a hero. Glaurung, Ancalagon, Smaug.
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The Gatwick drone pilot is a genuine hero. They demonstrated a means to cause mass disruption with minimal effort, which is a great boon for activists.
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They also shoved various governments how Russia might attack your airfield, or did attack it, not sure which. Great boon for activists tho, is not the terminology I'd use.
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A mans handshake technique will tell you how the handjob he will give you later after the gf goes to sleep will feel
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Gripweed posted:Any non-nazi who killed a nazi is a hero. That's the only standard. Yes, that means that there were no heroes before the 1930s. Yes, that means that heart disease and auto accidents are heroes. By the same token, bombing Nazi cities was not a “war crime” because most of the people in Dresden and Cologne were Nazis anyway.
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it began again here's one to get us away from politics: canned vegetables taste better than fresh veggies
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doverhog posted:They also shoved various governments how Russia might attack your airfield, or did attack it, not sure which. Great boon for activists tho, is not the terminology I'd use. Oh sweetie you are just adorable 
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