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Uglycat
Dec 4, 2000
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ZypherIM posted:

I'm old enough that I read # as "pound", because it is the number sign but usually called the pound sign. I was never clear on why twitter decided (or was it someone else that they stole it from?) to start calling it hashtag. It makes some things parse.. in unintended ways though.

I was told once that the backbone of Twitter was built on IRC. If so, then it's pronounced "channel."

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Slow News Day
Jul 4, 2007

Kale posted:

:lol: the number one story on CNN right now is literally about Trump's Christmas Eve twitter meltdown. I sort of wonder what the rest of the worlds take is looking at all this. I've been wondering what's going through the heads of various Western ally countries leaders for a while now. Like what do we do about the situation with the U.S and their completely useless leader that's stopped listening to anyone but Fox News pundits now that we can't try to at least go through Mattis anymore. It's not exactly something you can try to wait out for another 2 years anymore at this point, like the guys just lost it for a while now and under any normal circumstances with any functional government check and balance is out.

CNN is not aired internationally. CNN International is.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Nelson has always been an empty suit and probably would have been voted out years ago if the GOP had found a better challenger

Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009

Kale posted:

:lol: the number one story on CNN right now is literally about Trump's Christmas Eve twitter meltdown. I sort of wonder what the rest of the worlds take is looking at all this. I've been wondering what's going through the heads of various Western ally countries leaders for a while now. Like what do we do about the situation with the U.S and their completely useless leader that's stopped listening to anyone but Fox News pundits now that we can't try to at least go through Mattis anymore. It's not exactly something you can try to wait out for another 2 years anymore at this point, like the guys just lost it for a while now and under any normal circumstances with any functional government check and balance is out.

I think our allies or going to really evaluate their relationship with us when this Trump mess is over. I don't think they will abandon us (if we don't abandon them first) but they will know that even if we elect a good leader again we are only 4 years away from electing another psychopath and undoing any progress that was made. How can you make any long term plans with a country that seesaws from somewhat competent to making GBS threads it's own pants so rapidly?

ZypherIM
Nov 8, 2010

"I want to see what she's in love with."

Uglycat posted:

I was told once that the backbone of Twitter was built on IRC. If so, then it's pronounced "channel."

Weird, because I still called it pound on irc. Like explaining how to use irc to someone verbally, I'd say you type "pound (sign) followed by the channel's name". Because otherwise they'd never type the correct thing.


Trump's twitter meltdown is fantastic. I'm imagining him literally alone in the oval office, everyone else having found convenient excuses while he watches fox news and tweets. Except don jr, who is still in the room and even talking while trump still ignores him.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice

Kale posted:

:lol: the number one story on CNN right now is literally about Trump's Christmas Eve twitter meltdown. I sort of wonder what the rest of the worlds take is looking at all this. I've been wondering what's going through the heads of various Western ally countries leaders for a while now. Like what do we do about the situation with the U.S and their completely useless leader that's stopped listening to anyone but Fox News pundits now that we can't try to at least go through Mattis anymore. It's not exactly something you can try to wait out for another 2 years anymore at this point, like the guys just lost it for a while now and under any normal circumstances with any functional government check and balance is out.

If nothing else it has demonstrated to the world that any plans involving the US cannot be counted on to last past the next presidential election

ZypherIM
Nov 8, 2010

"I want to see what she's in love with."

Charliegrs posted:

I think our allies or going to really evaluate their relationship with us when this Trump mess is over. I don't think they will abandon us (if we don't abandon them first) but they will know that even if we elect a good leader again we are only 4 years away from electing another psychopath and undoing any progress that was made. How can you make any long term plans with a country that seesaws from somewhat competent to making GBS threads it's own pants so rapidly?

They'll start requiring us to actually ratify things in congress. From my understanding, we've sort of done executive orders for agreements for a while, since that avoided congress tanking a treaty negotiation. Then the following presidents were cognizant of the fact that if they started just ignoring previous agreements they'd gently caress it all up, so they honored (more or less: see ukraine) them. Now after trump I wouldn't be surprised to see govts start wanting us to do things so that the next guy can't just sign away.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
In other words, no more international agreements because our Senate is fundamentally dysfunctional and will be for decades to come

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
Trump is basically as if all the really harsh things that Roman historians wrote about Caligula were absolutely unquestionably true.

Future historians will look at this period and go “nah he can’t have been THIS bad, right?”

Inferior Third Season
Jan 15, 2005

Kale posted:

:lol: the number one story on CNN right now is literally about Trump's Christmas Eve twitter meltdown. I sort of wonder what the rest of the worlds take is looking at all this. I've been wondering what's going through the heads of various Western ally countries leaders for a while now. Like what do we do about the situation with the U.S and their completely useless leader that's stopped listening to anyone but Fox News pundits now that we can't try to at least go through Mattis anymore. It's not exactly something you can try to wait out for another 2 years anymore at this point, like the guys just lost it for a while now and under any normal circumstances with any functional government check and balance is out.
At least from my perspective in Denmark, the news here doesn't report on the daily tweets. You might see an old one if it relates to whatever the larger story they're talking about at any given time (international news outlets have picked up on the "there is a Trump tweet for everything" phenomenon),but the random bullshit doesn't make it through the TV and newspaper filters. You have to be a masochistic piece of poo poo like me, and purposefully seek it out online if you want to see it.

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice
To my knowledge Trump hasn't ordered senators to send their children as prostitutes in imperial orgies yet so he's not yet as bonkers as Caligula as described by ancient historians

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!

cheetah7071 posted:

To my knowledge Trump hasn't ordered senators to send their children as prostitutes in imperial orgies yet so he's not yet as bonkers as Caligula as described by ancient historians

I’d say he’s just as bonkers, just not as creative in his pettyness.

Actually, the more I think of it, Trump might be more of a Tiberius: cruel, politically awkward, and would rather spend his time far away from the capital, letting shrewd and competent stooges handle the important stuff in his stead.

Key difference is that Trump hasn’t found any competent shrills yet.

BigglesSWE fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Dec 24, 2018

Name Change
Oct 9, 2005


Ague Proof posted:

He posted this today:
https://twitter.com/KevinSpacey/status/1077263549326651392

The most brazen, disgusting response to #MeToo possible.

I'm not sure I can watch an 800 year-old vampire lord attempt to kill himself through sheer embarrassment.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

cheetah7071 posted:

To my knowledge Trump hasn't ordered senators to send their children as prostitutes in imperial orgies yet so he's not yet as bonkers as Caligula as described by ancient historians

Herodotus, the original Pizzagater.

But, we are about to the point that Trump is going to appoint a horse to Cabinet position.

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

Ague Proof posted:

He posted this today:
https://twitter.com/KevinSpacey/status/1077263549326651392

The most brazen, disgusting response to #MeToo possible.

I can’t believe this isn’t getting ratioed.

Edit: he is getting thoroughly roasted in the replies.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!
https://twitter.com/krangtnelson/status/1077289782940762113?s=21

ZypherIM
Nov 8, 2010

"I want to see what she's in love with."

Young Freud posted:

Herodotus, the original Pizzagater.

But, we are about to the point that Trump is going to appoint a horse to Cabinet position.

I thought Pence already liked trump just fine though?

I'm trying to think of an animal that he would actually appoint, and I think a stuffed dog.

BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!

ZypherIM posted:

I thought Pence already liked trump just fine though?

I'm trying to think of an animal that he would actually appoint, and I think a stuffed dog.

A Rottweiler, to impress on Vlad.

Arrgytehpirate
Oct 2, 2011

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!



We literally have a pouty child for president

https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1077255770725601280?s=21

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

BigglesSWE posted:

A Rottweiler, to impress on Vlad.

A literal Mad Dog for Defense Secretary.

\/\/\/ look okay Herodotus was the only antiquity historian i know off the top of my head. I'm not going to Google on my phone for a joke

Young Freud fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Dec 24, 2018

cheetah7071
Oct 20, 2010

honk honk
College Slice

Young Freud posted:

Herodotus, the original Pizzagater.

But, we are about to the point that Trump is going to appoint a horse to Cabinet position.

Herodotus was about 500 years before caligula

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

Kale posted:

:lol: the number one story on CNN right now is literally about Trump's Christmas Eve twitter meltdown. I sort of wonder what the rest of the worlds take is looking at all this. I've been wondering what's going through the heads of various Western ally countries leaders for a while now. Like what do we do about the situation with the U.S and their completely useless leader that's stopped listening to anyone but Fox News pundits now that we can't try to at least go through Mattis anymore. It's not exactly something you can try to wait out for another 2 years anymore at this point, like the guys just lost it for a while now and under any normal circumstances with any functional government check and balance is out.

I think they're just going to completely leave the US out of things now and talk to us only if they have to.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

ZypherIM posted:

I thought Pence already liked trump just fine though?



Christmas present.

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




BigglesSWE posted:

Trump is basically as if all the really harsh things that Roman historians wrote about Caligula were absolutely unquestionably true.

Future historians will look at this period and go “nah he can’t have been THIS bad, right?”

Yeah, I feel like Trump is a bit more like what Caligula was probably like in reality. Like Caligula, if we still have history 2,000 years from now, it's going to be full of some next-level atrocities.

Kale
May 14, 2010

Charliegrs posted:

I think our allies or going to really evaluate their relationship with us when this Trump mess is over. I don't think they will abandon us (if we don't abandon them first) but they will know that even if we elect a good leader again we are only 4 years away from electing another psychopath and undoing any progress that was made. How can you make any long term plans with a country that seesaws from somewhat competent to making GBS threads it's own pants so rapidly?

Basically. I remember noting in 2016 how remarkable it was that every other major country except maybe Russia and India clearly wanted a Democratic leader except the United States which even after the Bush years still seemed to be favorable towards the idea of a GOP government (I didn't think that much though before November 2016) and that the U.S was literally the only Western Democracy in the world where he had a prayer of winning the nomination let alone the presidency. As long as this off the rails wielding power for powers sake version of the GOP continues to exist as an electable entity I think a lot of countries will think twice about how they deal with the United States from now on.

It's crazy cause countries like France, England etc. have had a hell of a lot longer to go completely off the rails and never really did and they've had some questionable monarchs throughout their history when that was their system of government. Germany would be the obvious example of a country that did it to themselves and needed outside intervention to put the pieces back together. I just really hope it doesn't have to come to that for the U.S.

Personally I'm just getting really tired of right wing conservative governments that lead their countries into stagnation and misery over what feels like the entirety of my life time. It just feels like such a mismatch for where the world actually seems to be heading at large since literally the 60's, yet these types of leaders keep getting into office and voters keep thinking it's a good idea to elect people like Bolsanaro, Abe, Trump, Ford, May (some not as utterly ridiculous as others but all an example of bad conservative leadership leading to stagnation and misery) etc. in countries where they have an actual choice. I just don't get it, I've never been able to figure out where the upside for conservative ideology is even supposed to be. I would have thought maybe fiscal conservatism but it's been the non-conversatives that have presided over the good economies for my entire life time while any time there's been a Republican type administration it's resulted in a recession like in the 80's, 2008 and by the looks of it 2019.

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."





https://twitter.com/TopherSpiro/status/1077282781565194240

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Taerkar posted:

Yeah, that wasn't actually what Chamberlain was doing at all. The Munich Agreement was as much to buy time for the UK as anything else.

The last part is a literal quote by Chamberlain. The guy waited on Hitler like a dog and even convinced Czechoslovakia (who had a standing army of a million men and extensive fortifications) to surrender their whole country without a bullet fired because Hitler promised that this was his last land claim (like he did after invading Austria). Several times over Hitler would make demands and Chamberlain would grant them and Hitler would go "na now I want this as well" and Chamberlain would grant that as well.

The royal navy should have been blockading nazi Germany from the moment German tanks rolled into Austria.

Lycus
Aug 5, 2008

Half the posters in this forum have been made up. This website is a goddamn ghost town.

Ohhh, that makes sense. I was wondering what he could possibly be talking about. Why is our president so loving stupid?

SneezeOfTheDecade
Feb 6, 2011

gettin' covid all
over your posts
"Caligula" means "small boots", so at least he and DJT have small appendages in common.

Lead out in cuffs
Sep 18, 2012

"That's right. We've evolved."

"I can see that. Cool mutations."




Also lol

https://twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1077263242471358464

I wonder if this is all just part of Trump's never-ending narcissistic need for attention.

There's no such thing as bad publicity, right? Biggest Christmas eve stock market drop in history!

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

Lycus posted:

Ohhh, that makes sense. I was wondering what he could possibly be talking about. Why is our president so loving stupid?

Image was edited here's the quote:

quote:

The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

Nissin Cup Nudist
Sep 3, 2011

Sleep with one eye open

We're off to Gritty Gritty land




cheetah7071 posted:

To my knowledge Trump hasn't ordered senators to send their children as prostitutes in imperial orgies yet so he's not yet as bonkers as Caligula as described by ancient historians

Caligula was a pretty decent porn flick as well

Shifty Pony
Dec 28, 2004

Up ta somethin'


Lead out in cuffs posted:

Also lol

https://twitter.com/CNBCnow/status/1077263242471358464

I wonder if this is all just part of Trump's never-ending narcissistic need for attention.

There's no such thing as bad publicity, right? Biggest Christmas eve stock market drop in history!

Narcissists definitely do not believe that there is no such thing as bad publicity.

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.
Tag yourself...

https://twitter.com/goldengateblond/status/667183216323772416

Invalid Validation
Jan 13, 2008




Imagine how boring your life must be to wear that sign.

Rampant Dwickery
Nov 12, 2011

Comfy and cozy.
I claim the occult sorcerer position, I havent played one in DND for a while.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006


Trump is at least eight from that list.

Thaddius the Large
Jul 5, 2006

It's in the five-hole!

Look, I’ll grant you every single other group on that list, but can’t we let the bitter people slide?

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009


I’m not sure what a backslider is but I think I’m one.

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JasonV
Dec 8, 2003
At this point is not will Trump ruin Christmas, it's will he do it on purpose out of spite, or will ruin it while thinking he's making things better...

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