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One of the reasons Marvel was able to carve out the niche they did and eventually surpass DC was because the characters did grow and change. And that continued long after Lee And Kirby and Ditko were no longer the only, or even main, storytellers at Marvel. One of the most popular and most important comics of the 80s was Chris Claremont's X-Men, which was constantly changing and evolving and had real character growth (look at Storm, or compare Kitty Pryde when she was first introduced to Kitty Pryde at the start of Excalibur). Keeping characters stagnant is part of why people stop reading in the first place, and the new young readers aren't flocking to Spider-Man or whatever. They're reading about the new characters who don't have an established status quo and thus are still allowed to grow and change.
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# ? Dec 23, 2018 17:34 |
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Remember how happy everyone was when Batman's wedding was blown off?
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# ? Dec 23, 2018 20:21 |
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cant cook creole bream posted:Remember how happy everyone was when Batman's wedding was blown off? Dan Dido: "Yes, but secretly BILLIONS of people agree with my regressive views on aging characters. I won't share my data, but Geoff is gone and Jim is happy as long as comics are as edgy as W.I.L.D.C.A.T.S. so who is going to prove me wrong? Who? You? You are as unimportant and easily forgotten as Jon Kent or should I say Superboy Prime?"
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# ? Dec 23, 2018 20:33 |
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Covok posted:Dan Dido: "Yes, but secretly BILLIONS of people agree with my regressive views on aging characters. I won't share my data, but Geoff is gone and Jim is happy as long as comics are as edgy as W.I.L.D.C.A.T.S. so who is going to prove me wrong? Who? You? You are as unimportant and easily forgotten as Jon Kent or should I say Superboy Prime?" I'll always remember he thought Barbara Gordon should be Batgirl again or else we'd get "confused."
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# ? Dec 23, 2018 23:58 |
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I like Barbara being Batgirl again because I think the Killing Joke is overrated.
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# ? Dec 24, 2018 01:23 |
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FoneBone posted:Re: extermination—what about that story from a few years ago where the original X-Men returned to their time but found out they couldn’t go back because “the timeline” or whatever had already replaced them? Did that get retconned? yeah, X-Men Blue retconned them as being the evil future X-Men from Battle of the Atom, who were using image inducers or whatever to impersonate the O5 X-Men for some reason
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# ? Dec 24, 2018 01:39 |
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site posted:ps vulpes the second ghost panther was very good Thanks site, I'm just glad that GP is the one I got.
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# ? Dec 24, 2018 02:52 |
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Gaunab posted:I like Barbara being Batgirl again because I think the Killing Joke is overrated.
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# ? Dec 24, 2018 04:23 |
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I don't because Cassandra is a better Batgirl.
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# ? Dec 24, 2018 04:28 |
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Roth posted:I don't because Cassandra is a better Batgirl.
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# ? Dec 24, 2018 04:47 |
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Roth posted:I don't because Cassandra is a better Batgirl.
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# ? Dec 24, 2018 05:22 |
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Roth posted:I don't because Stephanie is a better Batgirl.
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# ? Dec 24, 2018 05:26 |
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I liked Oracle a lot because there aren't enough disabled characters in comics, let alone fairly prominent ones. I liked that she had a long history as Batgirl because the initial story of Oracle as it played out in Suicide Squad was partially about how losing the use of her legs didn't mean the end of Barbara's life, or the end of her heroism. It allowed her to fill a different niche, one that in the early 90s was still fairly fresh, and it was the best way, I think, to make pretty drat delicious lemonade out of The Killing Joke's lemons. Also, yeah, it indirectly opened up a space for Steph and Cassandra, both of whom were really great as Batgirl, while still giving Babs a distinct and important position in the Bat family. Oracle was just great!
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# ? Dec 24, 2018 05:37 |
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"There's literally nothing wrong with this, so let's mess it up for fun" is the modus operandi of many a comic book creator
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# ? Dec 24, 2018 06:34 |
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There's no reason they all can't be Batgirl (although Barbara should be another Batwoman by now) and there's nothing wrong with Oracle, it's just that the whole taking it from the Killing Joke thing.
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# ? Dec 24, 2018 07:49 |
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Here's a video on Mike Del Mundo (main artist on the current Thor, Black Bolt) drawing a Venom cover, but it get really sweet when we meet his kids - one of whom is a three year old (I'm guessing) break dancer - and find out that he gets his dad to model for him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24gQyRT8Vp0&t=145s Teenage Fansub fucked around with this message at 08:49 on Dec 25, 2018 |
# ? Dec 25, 2018 08:47 |
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# ? Dec 25, 2018 23:57 |
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big, if true
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# ? Dec 26, 2018 00:18 |
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It took me a second to process that instead of thinking it was a joke
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# ? Dec 26, 2018 00:58 |
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I look forward to a comic on the video game version of Spider-Man, he seemed cool in Spider-Geddon. If it's covering the events of the game even better since I'll never play it.
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# ? Dec 26, 2018 01:00 |
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You should the game is really loving good.
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# ? Dec 26, 2018 04:40 |
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I’m not much of a gamer so I really don’t have any interest. Especially now if they’re doing a comic of the story.
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# ? Dec 26, 2018 04:43 |
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Interested in seeing what they use from the game. Will it just be the game's cutscenes stitched together? The story told is good but it's not especially intriguing as an Alternate Universe Spider-Man to contrast against 616. There are differences but there's not any big curveball or hook that makes the game character meaningfully different than the regular comic book version. Not any more than any other adaptation, anyway.
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# ? Dec 26, 2018 05:09 |
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X-O posted:I look forward to a comic on the video game version of Spider-Man, he seemed cool in Spider-Geddon. If it's covering the events of the game even better since I'll never play it. Video game Spider-Man is a narc.
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# ? Dec 26, 2018 06:13 |
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It's a good game with a good story. I figure that they'll have to mix it up a little so either Felicia shows up earlier or not at all.
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# ? Dec 26, 2018 06:51 |
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honestly if you're not going to play the game then just watch the cutscenes or an LP or something so much of that story is carried by the performances that I can't imagine a comic adaptation not being a total letdown
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# ? Dec 26, 2018 06:57 |
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It wouldn't be a true adaptation if Peter isn't wearing the punk costume the whole way through
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# ? Dec 26, 2018 07:52 |
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Jiro posted:Video game Spider-Man is a narc. I was really disappointed in this.
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# ? Dec 26, 2018 11:18 |
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Teenage Fansub posted:It wouldn't be a true adaptation if Peter doesn't change costumes like every other page
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# ? Dec 26, 2018 11:32 |
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Yeah, if it’s not full of normal every day scenes of terrifying Ghost Riderspider taking selfies and high fiving randos on the street it’s NOT MY PS4SPIDER-MAN I dunno about this, I think I’d prefer to see things fleshed out in game, it made for nice reveals/surprises.
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# ? Dec 26, 2018 12:47 |
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Teenage Fansub posted:It wouldn't be a true adaptation if Peter isn't wearing the punk costume the whole way through I was delighted to hear JJJ has a special rant if you wear that suit enough.
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# ? Dec 26, 2018 17:22 |
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https://twitter.com/Doncates/status/1078088043914018817
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# ? Dec 27, 2018 01:41 |
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Mine's "Infinite Secret Civil War 2"
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# ? Dec 27, 2018 01:53 |
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Skwirl posted:Mine's "World Secret Infinite Civil Invasion War Disassembled 5: Children of the Apocalypse Atom"
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# ? Dec 27, 2018 01:56 |
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It'd be cool if the title was actually "You'll See."
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# ? Dec 27, 2018 02:17 |
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"BETTER THAN WATCHMAN" will be the subtitle.
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# ? Dec 27, 2018 02:41 |
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He's asking Donny Cates not Grant Morrison.
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# ? Dec 27, 2018 04:22 |
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so if you ever want to see the allreds take on the ff origin story, it's in today's issue
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# ? Dec 27, 2018 04:36 |
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In case you were wondering if Ben Grimm's wedding would buck the trend of 2018's failed comic marriages, it did! Mazel tov! The bigger news is that Franklin used the occasion to debut a new hairstyle.
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# ? Dec 27, 2018 06:45 |
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go to your room, franklin
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# ? Dec 27, 2018 06:51 |