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Best Not WWE Name This poll is closed. |
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| Up North |
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70 | 41.92% |
| New York |
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21 | 12.57% |
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12 | 7.19% |
| Stamford |
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18 | 10.78% |
| The XXX Porno Wrestling on the Other Channel |
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46 | 27.54% |
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https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1077629931293732865?s=19
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Dec 25, 2018 20:37
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Early wellness is sooo bad, but gently caress Hulk Hogan.
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Dec 25, 2018 20:39
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Pre Benoit wellness wins out for me slightly cause of the deaths it caused though always gently caress Hulk Hogan
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Dec 25, 2018 20:41
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Dead wrestlers is worse than rehiring Hulk Hogan because so far they've not gone full out in pushing Hulk into the product again. While this is subject to change at the moment it's not too awful. Giving a racist a paycheck is quite low on the list of scummy entries in this tournament.
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Dec 25, 2018 20:48
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Hogan wins for me because it's something happening right now
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Dec 25, 2018 21:01
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coconono posted:The timeline I saw had Vince being present during the police interview of Snuka(which happened a few weeks afterwards). AFAIK, they didn't take a statement from Snuka at the time of discovering the body. Again, the whole thing is suspect as gently caress. More here in my Vocativ article from when Snuka died: https://www.vocativ.com/falsestart/395847/jimmy-snukas-lies-murderer-legacy/index.html
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Dec 25, 2018 21:25
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Hogan sucks but I think jeopardizing the health of many people is worse.
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Dec 26, 2018 01:35
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I went Hogan because I guess it just feels more direct? I dunno. Like the Wellness stuff is bullshit and one of the many terrible things we should all be ashamed for supporting WWE financially when they do with their business but like at its core it was just callous business indifference and deceit. There's a million things they would have done and have done for the same reasons. But like, there's no loving reason or need to bring back Hulk Hogan. Its just a "gently caress you" to anyone with morality or standards or... I dunno... is not a loving racist. And like Warrior, Moolah, Trump... yeah, this is another thing WWE does all the time and will always do and lol at anyone who says "HHH will be better" but its just a direct "gently caress you, we don't care and we'll do what we want because we don't give a single poo poo and neither do you." I'm totally conflicted and understandable of the counter argument though. That was just my instinctive decision. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Dec 26, 2018 |
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Dec 26, 2018 02:30
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Steroids are cool and the WWE should be doing everything in their power to keep people on steroids but not dying. The fact WWE doesn't do this is stupid. Rehiring Hogan despite everyone knows he said a bunch of racist poo poo on A SEX TAPE should send Mattel or Nabisco or whoever their current sugartits sponsor into apoplectics.
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Dec 26, 2018 02:54
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I voted Hogan as well mostly because of his whole "oh man the people not accepting my apology aren't looking out for their bros like in the old days" and it's like, gently caress you Hogan, you piece of poo poo who basically sold out everyone at the expense of your own overness. Who's back did you ever have besides Brutus? That said I expect the Wellness to win because that was also very bad and led to the untimely demises of a lot of wrestlers.
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Dec 26, 2018 03:26
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https://twitter.com/NY64Tournament/status/1077748115824881664
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Dec 26, 2018 03:29
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This is another one where I voted for the one that probably shouldn't or won't win. Stand Up For WWE just infuriated me so much and in a lot of ways kind of symbolizes why I think WWE gets away with this stuff because its fans are so ready to excuse and defend it. Its a trigger for me. And, you know, it really does tie into the bigger political evils that WWE is contributing to and a very real part of it that in a lot of ways eclipse the small scale evil they've done for decades. But like, OTE probably totally should win.
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Dec 26, 2018 03:36
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Rich White Business owners claiming victimhood will always piss me off but it still cannot stand up to OTE continuing, which is just goddamn disgusting. Working the rest of that show has to be something the people who did it think about on their lowest days.
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Dec 26, 2018 03:39
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That list of 10 ways to stand up for WWE is one of the funniest things WWE has ever produced and there's nothing funny about OTE so this was an easy one for me.
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Dec 26, 2018 04:11
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OTE deserves the win because it is objectively worse but Stand up for WWE pissed me off way more.
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Dec 26, 2018 05:46
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Stand Up for WWE was hilariously stupid but I can't remember anything worse than OTE continuing so I'll vote for the latter.
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Dec 26, 2018 05:49
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You could make the argument that 'standing up for WWE' is one of the most disgusting things WWE fans have done. Don't enable these monsters. That's how we got into this mess. I mean this whole mess. Not just WWE.
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Dec 26, 2018 06:17
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ChrisBTY posted:You could make the argument that 'standing up for WWE' is one of the most disgusting things WWE fans have done. Yea if this was like, the worst thing the ~wrestling community~ has done I'd fight for stand up for WWE a lot harder, but as far as WWE themselves that was mainly just a dumb thing that personally got me mad that a lot of dipshits latched on to.
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Dec 26, 2018 06:20
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This is gonna end with all discussion of WWE banned on this subforum
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Dec 26, 2018 12:51
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This is actually interesting because I mentioned how disgusting I thought continuing Over the Edge ‘99 was about six years ago in this very forum and I got a bunch of people saying “Well, what else were they supposed to do? It happens in football all the time!” I’ll try to find the exchange. EDIT: Ahahahaha, it was actually MassRafTer himself. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3180956&pagenumber=583&perpage=40#post400069493 Pope Corky the IX fucked around with this message at 13:34 on Dec 26, 2018 |
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Dec 26, 2018 13:22
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OldTennisCourt posted:This is gonna end with all discussion of WWE banned on this subforum Completely fine with it
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Dec 26, 2018 13:32
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Pope Corky the IX posted:This is actually interesting because I mentioned how disgusting I thought continuing Over the Edge ‘99 was about six years ago in this very forum and I got a bunch of people saying “Well, what else were they supposed to do? It happens in football all the time!” I’ll try to find the exchange. Lmao
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Dec 26, 2018 14:17
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Pope Corky the IX posted:This is actually interesting because I mentioned how disgusting I thought continuing Over the Edge ‘99 was about six years ago in this very forum and I got a bunch of people saying “Well, what else were they supposed to do? It happens in football all the time!” I’ll try to find the exchange. Lol
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Dec 26, 2018 14:19
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Seriously what is stopping the event going to do? Stopping out of some sign of "respect" to a dead person is a really silly thought. *Person dies **WWE comes out and announces the show will be stopped. *Everyone stands and slowly claps *Years later goons talk about how respectful it was for WWE to stop the show (lol) earning them goodwill on the something awful forums. give me a break. Hako fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Dec 26, 2018 |
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Dec 26, 2018 14:22
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Go away Hako
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Dec 26, 2018 14:22
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Jackie D posted:Go away Hako Once you learn to have logical opinions based in reality.
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Dec 26, 2018 14:25
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Jackie D posted:Go away Hako
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Dec 26, 2018 14:28
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^^ Oh no a poster doesn't agree with my silly ideals of how an organization should handle their operations please remove this user so I can enjoy my echo box safe space in peace!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST) (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Dec 26, 2018 14:30
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The only reason I didn't vote OTE is because it had to be a snap judgment at a chaotic time with very little precedence in the WWE. But now I'm regretting my vote because I'm trying to think about where Vince's line would be: what if Owen landed on someone and killed them? What if 3 people died? Would he stop if someone were stabbed to death? I get the feeling Vince would be gritting his teeth thinking about millions of dollars going "they're already DEAD for Christ's sake!" and be the lone holdout in a sea of people pleading him to stop the show.
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Dec 26, 2018 14:34
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Helicity posted:The only reason I didn't vote OTE is because it had to be a snap judgment at a chaotic time with very little precedence in the WWE. The Kidd situation reinforced to me that they really didn't learn how to treat serious situations. Kidd could have easily died and it was up for debate whether he should get an ambulance ride
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Dec 26, 2018 14:42
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Maybe this isn't fair, but since we brought up the comparison with real sports I kind of can't help it. Footballer Fabrice Muamba had a cardiac arrest during a match and the match was quickly abandoned (as was his team's following game at their request). His heart attack appeared to be completely random: it was not brought about by him doing an unnecessary wacky half-time stunt in which he bungee jumped off part of the floodlights at the team's insistence, and his collapse did not damage the pitch to the point where it was dangerous for the other players. They just cancelled the game because a guy might die. Owen died doing a stunt (ostensibly, if you're being kind) for a television media war that had already been won, and the circumstances of his death threatened other workers both physically and emotionally. Continuing on with the show, looking at incidents like the one above, seems not only like a crass commercial decision (people are correct in that WWE certainly wouldn't be alone here) but a way of WWE covering themselves, as if ending the show is an confession of culpability. WWE don't like admitting that they might be wrong in the best circumstances, but they will go out of their way to avoid being responsible for something critical. I think that's what I voted for here. Also for the longest time I thought just being contrarian was MRT's gimmick. 
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Dec 26, 2018 14:45
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Hedgehog Pie posted:Also for the longest time I thought just being contrarian was MRT's gimmick. It is
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Dec 26, 2018 14:48
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Hako posted:Seriously what is stopping the event going to do? Stopping out of some sign of "respect" to a dead person is a really silly thought. Yeah, doing moral things is often not the most monetarily rewarding thing or makes the most business sense. If only there were other potential motivations for doing things.
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Dec 26, 2018 14:55
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i think the audience from over the edge 1999 should be in this tournament because they actually did start clapping and hollering when owen was being carted off dead
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Dec 26, 2018 14:57
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I messed up by posting a second post that was an attempt to correct the above post without trying to cheat everyone out of being able to see what happened, but I was incorrect, so I am altering it, and letting the original post stand. That post is above. I'm sorry for not showing my full work but three posts in a row is grounds for severe punishment.
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Dec 26, 2018 15:05
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Pope Corky the IX posted:EDIT: Ahahahaha, it was actually MassRafTer himself. This is pretty great, haha  Obviously he changed his mind over time (that's okay!) plus once the weight of evidence of other horrible poo poo they've done becomes so apparent it really is hard to give them the benefit of the doubt even about things you once thought were at least understandable. I certainly felt at the time and for years afterwards that it wasn't appropriate for me to critique this company who knew Owen far better and more personally than I ever could or would, and that in the immediate shock they probably weren't thinking straight. Unfortunately, there is a pretty clear and distinct pattern from WWE (and particularly Vince) that indicates that this was a more callous and calculated act or at least further evidence of a pretty skewed morality. Not least of all because Vince seems to apply a perverse logic of,"Whatever I would be happy to do or have done to me should be perfectly okay for me to do to everybody else as well" without ever considering the massive power imbalance of his own position of authority, power and wealth. MRT's quote is still pretty hilarious in the context of this thread though
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Dec 26, 2018 15:08
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honoring hako's memory rn by continuing to post while he is currently dead
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Dec 26, 2018 15:53
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This respect for the dead thing is bullshit. Why don't we just let bodies rot where they fell? And another thing why do we have moments of silence for tragedies? I'm pretty sure the dead can't hear anything anyway, and furthermore ~shits pants~
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Dec 26, 2018 15:58
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Not only does WWE not deserve the benefit of the doubt, but Owen's death was the result of a stunt that he didn't want to do, was pressured into, and the death was due to the company's negligence rather than a freak accident. I can understand excusing the "show must go on" mentality in a vacuum, but there's a lot of context here, all of which is awful.
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Dec 26, 2018 16:11
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Unironically agreed with MRT’s comment from years ago. The football analogy is sound. It was a snap judgment call that was probably low class, and nowhere near on the level of much of the premeditated cruelty in this tournament.
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