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Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Viridiant posted:

Oda's had a few damsel types that need to be protected throughout One Piece, but he usually manages to make them pretty interesting at least. Shirahoshi had the potential to be very annoying but she was involved in enough amusing interactions that she remained fun to have around. Also the ability to summon Sea Kings is badass.

The only ones that stand out as particularly uninteresting are Rebecca and Conis, and at least Conis wasn't around all that much.

Conis had some good moments. I posted about it earlier in the thread but I liked when she betrayed the crew and it just made Luffy/Sanji/Usopp mad that she put herself in danger admitting it. Although I guess thats more a strawhat moment, not a Conis one

I also liked she she rushed back to the beach to tell everyone what was happening and shoved that bazooka in the troopers face.

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Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Darth Walrus posted:

It's generally accepted by fans that Mantra shows up again by a different name later on, which is where we get a little more into its nuts and bolts.

Not just generally accepted, Oda's specifically stated Mantra is the same phenomenon under a different name. (albiet probably used a little differently by the Sky People)

I still love that there's mentioned to be multiple ways of getting to the sky world from the blue sea with various levels of danger and difficulty, and the Straw Hats ended up with the craziest. Not just being a so very Straw Hat moment but it fleshes out the world and shows that their journey is far from the only way of doing things.

CodfishCartographer
Feb 23, 2010

Gadus Maprocephalus

Pillbug
Chapter 303 "The Wealthy Pirate Gang"

Oh yeah, I kinda forgot about that Bellamy dude. DOFLAMINGO IS BACK HELL YES. Ohhhh, Bellamy's pirates were just Doflamingo's henchmen / crew, neat.

Giant sea monkeys! And a sad crew :( I love how upset Luffy is that Robin wasn't excited about the next island. Whoa! A really long bear!! Whoooaaa everything on this island is soooo loooong! Oh no! Luffy got attacked by bamboo! Oh, the Foxy Pirates.

It wasn't bamboo! They were stilts! I love all these animaaaaaaaals. The island is a ring, or maybe more like a crown? That's cool! Aww, Sherry is so happ-SOMEOME SHOT SHERRY. Foxy the silver fox? He looks like a douchebag. Only 24m berries? Go kick his rear end, Luffy!

Uh oh, Luffy accidentally accepted the Davy Back Fight... Whatever..that...is...Pirate games are usually cool, at least! And Luffy accepted! I'm sure nothing will go wrong!

Oh, another fish man! So, I guess we'll be getting at least one new team member soon. I wonder who it'll be...! This race is exciting, there needs to be more races in Mangas.

drat, this is basically just wacky races: one piece edition. FUSION! TURBO SHARKMAN! Oh no, the bad guy used his devil fruit power! What did it do??

THEY LOST! AND THEY TOOK CHOPPER! NOOOO!! Huh, so soccer, but your friend is the ball? Do you have to throw in your teammate, or the opponents'?

Oh, the opponents', that makes sense. I bet this is real cool animated! But the manga does a good job of portraying the motion of it all.

Oh no, a monster burger!! That actually sounds tasty, I'm pretty hungry right now. GOOOOOAAAAAAALLLLLLL!!!!!!!!

LUFFY HAS AN AFROOOOO

Well, erm, one point for the Viz translation, it didn't use weirdly incensitive language in regards to the afro!

Luffy vs a trickster is the best poo poo. He falls for everything, but muscles (bumbles?) through anyways!

GORILLA PUNCHER 13! Hah, breaking the mirror seems so obvious.

drat, Luffy's really getting his rear end kicked. What the hell?! Why isn't the afro working?? HELL YEAH, THERE'S THAT AFRO POWERRRRR!!!

Aww, Luffy just took their flag! AND DREW THEM AN AWESOME NEW SAIL! Ooh man, a navy admiral! Who knows Robin! And she seems pretty freaked out by him, is he real strong? I hope not, none of the gang are in any fighting condition...

U-DO Burger
Nov 12, 2007




buckle up, you're about to start the best goddamn arc in the manga.

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Groggy Monsters is one of my favorite fights in all of One Piece

TheLoneStar
Feb 9, 2017

CodfishCartographer posted:

And she seems pretty freaked out by him, is he real strong? I hope not, none of the gang are in any fighting condition...
I miss these sweet days of innocence.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


I know there are low points, but the cool moments, masses of new characters and general feeling that stories and character arcs big, small, established and untold are all taking place at once puts Dressrosa as one of my favourite arcs, certainly above FI and Punk Hazard.

DizzyBum
Apr 16, 2007


CodfishCartographer posted:

Well, erm, one point for the Viz translation, it didn't use weirdly incensitive language in regards to the afro!

This was an infamously bad mistranslation. It was supposed to be something like "Does the champion make the afro, or does the afro make the champion?" which is just funny, but then the scanlators went super-racist for some reason. :shrug:

charismaslover
Dec 3, 2006

Too stylish for this world...
Man I forgot how great the reaction faces are

Lpzie
Nov 20, 2006

got that exclusive gear 4 Luffy on my second box. easy peasy. thanks for the reminder, whoever said it.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



CodfishCartographer posted:

Well, erm, one point for the Viz translation, it didn't use weirdly incensitive language in regards to the afro!
The "champs are blacks" thing is a mistranslation, the entire thing is some extended reference to a Japanese boxing champ.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

After lapsing for a few months, I've finally caught up and so much is happening in Wano holy poo poo.

Bleck
Jan 7, 2014

No matter how one loves, there are always different aims. Love can take a great many forms, whatever the era.

DizzyBum posted:

but then the scanlators went super-racist for some reason. :shrug:

the reason is that they were racists

AkumaHokoru
Jul 20, 2007

Bleck posted:

the reason is that they were racists

was the group that did that version a speed scan group or somethin cause i dont recall binktopia or kaizoku using that translation

tbp
Mar 1, 2008

DU WIRST NIEMALS ALLEINE MARSCHIEREN
ik its dredging up last page but rebecca's design (notnecessarily her as a character) is a big reason why dressrosa felt bad to me. scenes like where doflamingo is manipulating her to kill violet have the potential to be really cool when luffy comes and saves the day, but it's incredibly loving hard to get over her outfit because its just so beyond ridiculous. the anime makes this moment even more outrageous because there's a ton of superfluous jiggling going on and takes away any ounce of gravitas

that said i really shouldn't bitch too much. oda's worldbuilding, character design, etc. has been unimpeachable for a few years now. WCI i think will eventually be remembered as one of the top OP arcs because of all the variety in design, different themes (classic shonen, mystery, horror) and importance to the story.

also side note but kinda cool to think, luffy is technically the closest person to one piece as far as we know at the moment, being the only person w/ access to more than 1 road poneglyph

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK
He's also the only one with access to someone who can read the directions. Plus if Big Mom's plan for Pudding's third eye does work out, Luffy's got a pretty cover on that too.

CodfishCartographer
Feb 23, 2010

Gadus Maprocephalus

Pillbug
Chapter 319: "Admiral Aokiji of the Navy Headquarters"

Oh drat, a Supreme Admiral? This dude must be super strong! And he kinda looks like Tim Curry. I guess he's sorta friendly? Whooooaaaa ice! Huh, who's Luffy's grandpa? Was it Gold Roger? OH NO MAYBE TIM CURRY REALLY IS A BAD GUY

Ooh, he's calling out Robin. Maybe she really is a bad guy? It's hard to tell... Seems like the gang trusts her, at least. Oh gently caress, Tim Curry goddamn annihilated the straw hats like they were nothing!! So that's the power of a Supreme admiral... And now Luffy is challenging him 1 on 1? Luffy, what are you thinking?!

drat, Luffy lost like, immediately. At least Tim Curry let him live.

And now there's a boat train! Cool! Ooh, and the next island will have a good carpenter! But Aokiji went there, too. Hope they don't run into him again soon...

I love Luffy's sketch of the mechanic he wants, I hope they find someone identical to it. Ooh, Water 7 looks cool! Such a big fountain. "Hey, you guys here to do some robbing?" so nonchalant! While I just bashed the colored scans for the weird afro translation, the Viz translation now has a weird one. Calling the pirate not wanting to pay for repairs "sexual harassment" seems a bit odd.

A bull! They're cute! Ooh, and masks. How fancy. Uh oh, somebody's attacking Zoro! Time for them to get their asses kicked, probably.

Uh, the Franky Family is interesting. "CP9"? Huh... I still dunno if I trust Robin. I really want to know what's up with her!! Haha, Kaku is cool, I like his nose! And he can jump super duper far!! I hope they make him join their crew, but maybe Usopp would get jealous of his nose...

Uh ohhhhh Robin's definitely up to no good. Definitely. ICEBERG HAS A TINY MOUSE NAMED TYRANNOSAURUS YESSSS Iceberg seems like a cool dude, I like him too.

Paulie is pretty cool, too... There are so many cool people in this place! Lucci is cool too!! And Kalifa! And everyone!! Oh no, they can't fix the Going Merry?? Nooooo ;_;

Oh no, and now Usopp is all beat up and feels bad. Don't feel bad, Usopp!! This is so sad...

AkumaHokoru
Jul 20, 2007
oh baby get ready!

Silver2195
Apr 4, 2012
Re: “sexual harassment,” that’s not a mistranslation, it’s just Kalifa’s character quirk. She’s a big pile of dumb sexist jokes.

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK
This is the first time I've ever heard anyone compare Aokiji to Tim Curry.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005

Try reading some manga!


Clever Betty
It's especially hilarious considering who he will eventually see

Mraagvpeine
Nov 4, 2014

I won this avatar on a technicality this thick.

Gyges posted:

This is the first time I've ever heard anyone compare Aokiji to Tim Curry.

They're probably thinking of Rocky Horror and the hairstyle of Dr. Frank N. Furter.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
It's a bit funny given he actually is based on a real-world actor in design (all the Admirals are) but a Japanese one most Western readers probably won't know about. Similar to how Enel/Eneru's based visually on Eminem.

CodfishCartographer
Feb 23, 2010

Gadus Maprocephalus

Pillbug
Chapter 329: "My Name is Franky"

Oh poo poo, Usopp is storming the Franky House?? Usopp, be careful! Wait, wasn't he totally beat up? Franky's leader (Franky himself?) looks weird, is he a luchador? Ohhhh fuuuuck, the entire gang found Usopp's body and is in rear end-kicking mode. Time for Franky to eat some poo poo.

Hahaha holy poo poo, they just WRECKED the Frankies. I wonder how tough Franky himself is. Aww, are we really going to say goodbye to the Going Merry? I'm surprised they can't fix it, couldn't they life the ship up and replace the keel? Probably not, I don't know anything about ship building...

Oh no, Luffy, Usopp, stop fighting! Not in front of Chopper! Oh gently caress, Usopp is quitting the Straw Hats??? Nononono this has gotta be some kinda mistake, Luffy why are you being such a dick?! AND NOW THEY'RE GUNNA FIGHT?

Man, this is such a bummer. The whole crew is all antsy and messed up... drat, Usopp is actually holding his own against Luffy, I'm surprised. But then Luffy dropped him in like a single punch, that isn't too surprising. I get that Luffy needs to be tough to be a captain, BUT C'MON, ITS USOPP!

Man, Usopp is all alone on the ship... Where's the rest of the crew staying? And now Iceberg has been shot? Goddamn, the series took a dark turn real quick. Ohhhh shiiit, Franky took off his mask!

Oh god, high tide? I hope Usopp will be okay... Oh, so, er, THAT is Franky. Welp. He's got a metal nose? And Popeye arms! I bet this scene is great with music. Oh fuuuuck did Robin try to assassinate Mr Iceberg??

Dang, Franky can breathe fire! And he's immune to water? HE DETACHED HIS ARM. Is he a cyborg with robot arms? Hah! I was right! Ooh, do we get to see the ship mechanics really fight now? drat, they're really good fighters! Oh, Robin overheard that the straw hats are suspects, is she gunna do something to help out? Was she really an evil bitch all along??

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
I'm not sure if it was expanded on in the anime, but the Galley-La folks hammer home to the Straw Hats that the Merry is a complete write-off and 'fixing' it would amount to basically building an entirely new ship, which would be fundamentally different in ways the Straw Hats would notice. They're the ones who have fundamental respect for a good ship, especially one that's clearly been through insane adventures and made it to the Grand Line despite being a very ordinary little ship, and that includes knowing when it's on its last legs.

It's interesting and almost unique that all the damage the Merry takes on the Grand Line with only makeshift repairs actually adds up in the end. Even in most serious-minded series, a vehicle that isn't expendable and easily (and frequently) replaced tends to have all damage magically fixed by the start of the next episode, and/or is always in a steady state of disrepair. (apparently Outlaw Star actually has a bit of that with the spaceship starting out pristine and shiny but ending up dirty, rusty and dented)

Mulderman
Mar 20, 2009

Did someone say axe magnet?
Man Luffy vs Usopp is still one of the best fights in all of One Piece.

Emotional as gently caress and it shows what Usopp is capable off when he's serious.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Usopp really is the Straw Hat success story. I can't wait to see where he ends up at the end of the series.

Guy A. Person
May 23, 2003

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Usopp really is the Straw Hat success story. I can't wait to see where he ends up at the end of the series.

They seriously need a "Scouring of the Shire" style mini-arc where Usopp returns to Syrup village to visit Kaya and single handedly just destroys the new up-and-coming most powerful pirate crew in East Blue when they pull some poo poo

Eggplant Squire
Aug 14, 2003


Usopp will always be the best character. :911:

Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK
Even all these years later, Merry being unable to carry the crew any further makes me a little sad.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Gyges posted:

Even all these years later, Merry being unable to carry the crew any further makes me a little sad.

It is one of the few things that are 100% guaranteed to make me cry. Especially the anime version of the funeral, god drat they really nailed that.

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Begemot posted:

It is one of the few things that are 100% guaranteed to make me cry. Especially the anime version of the funeral, god drat they really nailed that.

Im completely fine until the Merry starts talking and apologizes

Countblanc
Apr 20, 2005

Help a hero out!

Mulderman posted:

Man Luffy vs Usopp is still one of the best fights in all of One Piece.

Emotional as gently caress and it shows what Usopp is capable off when he's serious.

Absolutely my number one fight

Mulderman
Mar 20, 2009

Did someone say axe magnet?

Meme Emulator posted:

Im completely fine until the Merry starts talking and apologizes

That poo poo breaks my heart every single time. THE BOAT loving APOLOGIZED!

Whaleporn
May 6, 2007

This is me on my bike pretty cool huh?

Meme Emulator posted:

Im completely fine until the Merry starts talking and apologizes

Yeah that's about when I lose my poo poo too. I think it's up there with chopper and robin's flash backs for tear jerking

CodfishCartographer
Feb 23, 2010

Gadus Maprocephalus

Pillbug
Chapter 338: "Coup De Vent"

Oh poo poo, I forgot about the high tide thing. FRANKY TABLE FLIPPED HELL YEAH! Franky's kinda derpy, I like him so far. Holy poo poo, he's got one hell of an air cannon! Aw, Franky's hair is all floppy now.

Time to infiltrate the base, I guess! At least Iceberg seems pretty chill about it. Oh, until he pulled out a gun, at least. FRANKY KEEPS COLA IN HIS ABS OH MY GOD. Aw, and he paid for the entire bar's drinks. He seems like a cool dude! SUPER!!!

Oh! Sanji and Chopper found Robin! Oh, and she's kind of being a bitch. And then she left...

Okay, let's go capture Robin! I just love how determined Luffy gets. Aww, Usopp is trying his hardest to fix up the Merry Go!

Oh no, Franky gang is gunna go pay Usopp a visit... I wonder what that thing Paulie got for Iceberg is. It looks like a rolled up magazine?

Yay, the cover story mentions Vivi, I'm glad she's doing well! Whoa, that bear guy makes doors out of any wall he presses up against?? Is it the Door door fruit? Holy poo poo, it actually is the door door fruit. Ohh, blueprints for a ship? Is it some kind of special super ship? What makes mere blueprints so important? LUFFY GOT STUCK IN A CRACK IN THE WALLS! Nooo, Kaku! Please don't be dead!

Daaamn, whoever this door door dude is, he's fuckin strong! Huh, studying ancient history is illegal? I'd say that's weird, but I could see it happening. So the CP9s are a government group, I guess like the CIA maybe? Oh gently caress that's not a boat blueprint, ITS THE WEAPON! Or a warship, so I guess it's sorta both.

drat, these guys trounced Luffy quick. I like them holding him down with staples, where's Duster? WHAT, ALL OF THE CP9s WERE THE SHIPWRIGHTS? EVEN KALIFA AND KAKU! But I liked them all... ;_;

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Aaargh keep going, you're like halfway through peak One Piece and I crave your reactions.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Begemot posted:

It is one of the few things that are 100% guaranteed to make me cry. Especially the anime version of the funeral, god drat they really nailed that.

Binks no sake wo~
Todokeni yuku yo~

Reiche
Jan 28, 2009

I like my coffee with cream and lsd.
Just reading posts about Merry is enough to make my eyes misty.

I started reading One Piece in 2010 and it still floors me that one of the most poignant and emotional scenes in its entire run is about a boat. The other two that stand out to me are Robin's "I wanna live" and the panel when Sanji utterly breaks down in the rain outside of Pudding's room. That was devastating

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SgtSteel91
Oct 21, 2010

CodfishCartographer posted:

Chapter 338: "Coup De Vent"

drat, these guys trounced Luffy quick. I like them holding him down with staples, where's Duster? WHAT, ALL OF THE CP9s WERE THE SHIPWRIGHTS? EVEN KALIFA AND KAKU! But I liked them all... ;_;

I wish I could have been in this thread (if there was a thread at this time) just to see everyone speculating if any of the shipwrights could become a Strawhat, only to get the rug pulled out when they all turned out to be CP9

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