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Edmund Lava posted:What did Gabby Rivera do? I mean besides being a gay Latina. This is like the seventh Google result for her name. http://boundingintocomics.com/2017/12/07/marvel-comics-writer-gabby-rivera-espouses-anti-white-racism/ So yeah. She was being a gay Latina right out in the open where anyone could see her.
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Wanderer posted:Spencer having 76k followers doesn't mean there are actually 76,000 people who are actually down for his brand of bullshit, particularly since he's exactly the kind of dude who'd pay to boost his own follower count. Honestly, I find it really hard to be convinced for if that is really happening. Shitlords will be Shitlords, no matter what. There's a lot of real nazis on Twitter that will follow the Master race bullshit.
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Guys bear with me for a second here, and I know what I am about to say will blow your mind. I don't thing these guys are arguing I good faith.
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Why do the CG chuds call Dickie "Zach?"
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Dawgstar posted:Why do the CG chuds call Dickie "Zach?" Ah! It's apparently a 4chan thing. So, whatever. Uncle Ethan made a big declarative Tweet on how he was unblocking Gail Simone, and shortly thereafter CG started going after her because she was best friends with the Border Town guy. And by 'best friends' I mean 'responded to three of his Tweets, the most recent of which was over four years ago.'
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I'm reading some old (1980's) Batman comics and in the issue I am at Batman is tracking down some serial killers who kill women because feminism is challenging their masculinity. They complain about how women are making men weak and such, and I am wondering if these are the comics chuds want to go back to when they say they want to go back to when comics weren't political.
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Dec 19, 2018 21:28
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tbf irl male serial killers often have that complaint
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Madkal posted:I'm reading some old (1980's) Batman comics and in the issue I am at Batman is tracking down some serial killers who kill women because feminism is challenging their masculinity. They complain about how women are making men weak and such, and I am wondering if these are the comics chuds want to go back to when they say they want to go back to when comics weren't political. Not really, like most right wing/chud stuff they want to go back to something that never actually existed
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Madkal posted:I'm reading some old (1980's) Batman comics and in the issue I am at Batman is tracking down some serial killers who kill women because feminism is challenging their masculinity. They complain about how women are making men weak and such, and I am wondering if these are the comics chuds want to go back to when they say they want to go back to when comics weren't political. but that killer is clearly wrong/the bad guy, right? Like look at those panels from the CHUD comic earlier in the thread with super blackshirts fighting antifa, they want Batman to be the one beating up women and soyboys for forgetting their place.
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come back Eric, all is forgiven (thread full of excuses follows) https://twitter.com/ericmesquivel/status/1075277111886209024?s=21 https://twitter.com/ericmesquivel/status/1075277118110556160?s=21
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you know eric, whoever told you this would blow over if you kept your mouth shut was probably not wrong in that you wouldve been working at image on something inside of a year so please go ahead and gently caress up your money by talking
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He's 30 years old, who was hitting puberty in 2001 or so and scanning the horizon for male role models and coming up with the Fonz and KISS?
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Edge & Christian posted:He's 30 years old, who was hitting puberty in 2001 or so and scanning the horizon for male role models and coming up with the Fonz and KISS? "9/11 hit people in different ways. Whereas you turned to your parent for comfort all I had were Sean Connery and Henry Winkler to guide me" - Eric Esquivel (Probably)
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Oh good. Since that guy War Machine got sent to jail I hadn't really had anyone clearly guilty of an awful crime hanging out on Twitter just trying to be normal that I could yell at for being a monster every time they posted.
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Wow gently caress that guy
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anybody know who's getting subtweeted here https://twitter.com/NakatomiTim/status/1075884616249212928
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site posted:anybody know who's getting subtweeted here it's about a colorist so no, absolutely nobody knows who it is
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site posted:anybody know who's getting subtweeted here Elizabeth Breitweiser.
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I can't see myself boycotting a book because of the views of the colorist. Artist or writer sure.
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site posted:anybody know who's getting subtweeted here Elizabeth Breitwiser Which apparently it's more about her husband being a shithead and her going along with it than her actually personally supporting it but yeah still sucks Bru and Phillips dropped her like a fuckin bomb when that happened, she's not their colorist anymore, which suuuuuuucks
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Madkal posted:I'm reading some old (1980's) Batman comics and in the issue I am at Batman is tracking down some serial killers who kill women because feminism is challenging their masculinity. They complain about how women are making men weak and such, and I am wondering if these are the comics chuds want to go back to when they say they want to go back to when comics weren't political. Ah! Those are from a Jim Starlin run, followed by the introduction of KGBeast, a rogue soviet assassin in BDSM gear trying to kill Ronald Reagan with his palestinian sidekick on a glider; and Joker becoming an Iran ambassador. but those serial killer issues are okay, that run in general is good on showing a very fragile Batman in an unforgiving world, at the time when it wasn't completely played out BENGHAZI 2 posted:Elizabeth Breitwiser nah she shares chudness with her husband completely, they did some streams with ~Uncle Ethan~
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Ahahah. Guess who ranked higher than EVS in a comic power ranking https://twitter.com/renfamous/status/1077254049915912195?s=19
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The responses to Joe Q were great. "How DARE you put a serial harasser so high!" To which most responses were along the lines of "Ethan's not that high up."
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I recently revisited some Year 2000 issues of Ultimate Spider-Man, and oh boy, this series has not aged well. It's not Bendis's clunky attempts to imitate snappy Sorkin-esque dialogue that I have a real problem with though, it's the supplementary material from #0.5, (a Comic Book Day freebie I assume). It has a Mark Bagley sketchbook section in the back, and one of the drawings is a sexy pin-up of Mary Jane, who in this continuity is a teenage schoolgirl. (I won't link to it but you can find the issue easily enough online.) Bagley's comment underneath: "Man, MJ is like 15. I'm such a perv!" The editor also makes a joke of it in his introduction, "What was [Mark] thinking when he rendered the lovely MJ on page 22? You don't wanna know!" Holy poo poo. I mean, at the very least it's unpleasantly sleazy if not downright creepy, and the fact Bagley casually admits to perving over an underage girl, even an entirely fictional one, just boggles my mind. That and the fact editorial were happy to run it with little more than a jokey aside, what the hell were they thinking?
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Maelstache posted:I recently revisited some Year 2000 issues of Ultimate Spider-Man, and oh boy, this series has not aged well. Not half as sleazy as when Logan's mind gets stuck into Peter's body and he tries to boink teenage MJ. (sorry if this was mentioned already)
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Maelstache posted:I recently revisited some Year 2000 issues of Ultimate Spider-Man, and oh boy, this series has not aged well. The honest truth is that that is incredibly common in most segments of geek culture. Sexualizing teenage girls has been a comic staple for a long time and honestly it still shows up super frequently. It's not uncommon in movies or television shows (though at least there they are primarily actors over age) and of course with anime (and video games) 8 out of every 10 characters is a teenager. It just gets kind of written off with "they're not real" and a lot of people are so used to it they don't even think about it.
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Maelstache posted:I recently revisited some Year 2000 issues of Ultimate Spider-Man, and oh boy, this series has not aged well. Back then, Bill Jemas was Marvel's publisher with Quesada as Editor in Chief, and they both went for a sleazier, more adult vibe for Marvel at that time. I remember some kind of porn-looking X-Men manga series (Phoenix?), Chuck Austen writing weird sex stuff into mainstream X-Men, Millar doing creepy, pervy, unsettling stuff in Ultimate X-Men and Ultimates, some Howard Stern writer's gay panicky Rawhide Kid series, and Jemas' own sleazy, joke-free "comedy" Marville. They had some great stuff going too, like Milligan and Allred's X-Force, a lot of people loved Morrison's New X-Men, and of course Bendis' Ultimate Spidey and Daredevil (before he made New Avengers his own thing), but they were definitely trying to differentiate themselves from "stodgy" DC (who might have countered with Identity Crisis a year or two later) and '80s/'90s Marvel. Big Bad Voodoo Lou fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Dec 30, 2018 |
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Milligan and Allred's X-Force/X-Statix had plenty of sex stuff in it too, Milligan is just a far better writer and the Allred's art style brings an entirely different vibe to it.
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Alaois posted:Milligan and Allred's X-Force/X-Statix had plenty of sex stuff in it too, Milligan is just a far better writer and the Allred's art style brings an entirely different vibe to it. Right, and it was a shocking book for its time. Wasn't their first issue in 2001 (#116) the first one published without the Comics Code Authority?
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:Right, and it was a shocking book for its time. Wasn't their first issue in 2001 (#116) the first one published without the Comics Code Authority? Nowhere loving near, though if you don't count one-offs I think it's the first time an entire run was CCA-unapproved.
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Phoenix: Legacy of Fire was the pervy manga-style book where the heroine wore a microkini. That was hosed up.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Nowhere loving near, though if you don't count one-offs I think it's the first time an entire run was CCA-unapproved. That's what I was thinking of, then. Thank you!
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:Back then, Bill Jemas was Marvel's publisher with Quesada as Editor in Chief, and they both went for a sleazier, more adult vibe for Marvel at that time. I remember some kind of porn-looking X-Men manga series (Phoenix?), Chuck Austen writing weird sex stuff into mainstream X-Men, Millar doing creepy, pervy, unsettling stuff in Ultimate X-Men and Ultimates, some Howard Stern writer's gay panicky Rawhide Kid series, and Jemas' own sleazy, joke-free "comedy" Marville. Identity Crisis was absolutely DC's attempt to counter Marvel's more "grown up and realistic" vibe. There's a lot of stones to throw at Brad Meltzer, but poo poo like "Dr. Light tried to rape Sue Dibny" was, IIRC, a directive from editorial, not something he came into the project with the idea for.
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Yeah, in general mainstream comics in the late 90s and early 2000s still had a prurient, frat-boy attitude towards sexuality that was both juvenile and also very blithely misogynistic. wizard magazine with it's endless lists of Top 10 X-Men Babes and leering comments about various Top Cow and wildstorm heroines was absolutely par for the course and the general vibe of editorial commentary tended towards similar knowing winks and shoulder nudges-- even generally well-constructed and compelling comics like Ultimate Spider-Man were, as you mention, not free from this. It's certainly something that's often shocking in going back to revisit stuff from as recent as 10-15 years ago but it's also encouraging to think about how that kind of poo poo is so self-evidently gross to so many people now instead of either encouraged or begrudgingly tolerated.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Identity Crisis was absolutely DC's attempt to counter Marvel's more "grown up and realistic" vibe. There's a lot of stones to throw at Brad Meltzer, but poo poo like "Dr. Light tried to rape Sue Dibny" was, IIRC, a directive from editorial, not something he came into the project with the idea for. Tried? I thought he did.
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:Back then, Bill Jemas was Marvel's publisher with Quesada as Editor in Chief, and they both went for a sleazier, more adult vibe for Marvel at that time. I remember some kind of porn-looking X-Men manga series (Phoenix?), Chuck Austen writing weird sex stuff into mainstream X-Men, Millar doing creepy, pervy, unsettling stuff in Ultimate X-Men and Ultimates, some Howard Stern writer's gay panicky Rawhide Kid series, and Jemas' own sleazy, joke-free "comedy" Marville. Oh dear God don't get me started on Rawhide Kid. The reboot could have been so, so good if they had handled his gay-ness with a light touch, instead of shoving it in our faces every three pages.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:Identity Crisis was absolutely DC's attempt to counter Marvel's more "grown up and realistic" vibe. There's a lot of stones to throw at Brad Meltzer, but poo poo like "Dr. Light tried to rape Sue Dibny" was, IIRC, a directive from editorial, not something he came into the project with the idea for. "We need a rape" was what Didio supposedly said
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Gynovore posted:Not half as sleazy as when Logan's mind gets stuck into Peter's body and he tries to boink teenage MJ. (sorry if this was mentioned already) Complete with a Logan-as-Peter creepy leer to the camera.
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