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Thing I noticed: Durkon popped right back in the Thor afterlife (Valhalla?). Where only dwarfs who die heroically go. Which means he died doing something heroic. Heroically stupid, that is, but heroic nonetheless  And of course it's a page snipe.  There's a post advertising a new comic page at the bottom of the previous page!
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A good end to the year. Also, a good one-panel revelation that things really are still complicated.
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Dec 31, 2018 19:20
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"SPLONF! (AGAIN)"
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Dec 31, 2018 19:20
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PROTECTION FROM FIRE!!!!! STAY BACK!!!!
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Dec 31, 2018 19:42
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Well, I did get to see Durkon calling out the Order for being cool with the vampire, but it looks like it’s just gonna be and end-panel gag. Still good.
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Dec 31, 2018 19:49
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Interesting to see how much Elan is rubbing off on Haley.
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wdarkk posted:Interesting to see how much Elan is rubbing off on Haley. They are two consenting adults. What they do together is none of our business.
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Dec 31, 2018 20:02
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lovely, evil and extremely powerful
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Dec 31, 2018 21:05
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The second time was only a raise dead instead of a resurrection, I notice. Which means she prepared both at the start of this day. Was she literally planning on doing this all along, or did she just think she might need to resurrect two people?
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Dec 31, 2018 21:23
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Taciturn Tactician posted:The second time was only a raise dead instead of a resurrection, I notice. Which means she prepared both at the start of this day. Was she literally planning on doing this all along, or did she just think she might need to resurrect two people? Ehh best be careful.
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Dec 31, 2018 21:31
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Mikl posted:Thing I noticed: I believe it's just dying in battle, not necessarily heroic death
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Dec 31, 2018 21:33
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So it looks like Odin knows about the world in the Snarl ('worlds within worlds and yarn winding yarn'), and Thor doesn't.
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Dec 31, 2018 21:45
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Assuming that he understood what he was saying in that strip....
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Dec 31, 2018 22:29
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ultrafilter posted:Assuming that he understood what he was saying in that strip.... Note also that him having understood it then and him understanding it now are two different things.
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Who What Now posted:I believe it's just dying in battle, not necessarily heroic death Technically it's dying with honor. And he literally died while doing the honorable thing. Not a heroic death, but a just one.
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Dec 31, 2018 23:36
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Otherkinsey Scale posted:Technically it's dying with honor. And he literally died while doing the honorable thing. Aren't those supposed to stick?
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Dias posted:Aren't those supposed to stick? They're all sticks, that's the gimmick.
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ultrafilter posted:Assuming that he understood what he was saying in that strip.... i suspect odin's wackiness might be a little tactical
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Jan 1, 2019 00:11
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Dias posted:Aren't those supposed to stick?
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Jan 1, 2019 00:16
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So what's worse, alignment debates or classpect theorycrafting? Durkon is obviously something of life.
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Jan 1, 2019 01:34
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xanthan posted:So what's worse, alignment debates or classpect theorycrafting? What have you done?!
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Taciturn Tactician posted:The second time was only a raise dead instead of a resurrection, I notice. Which means she prepared both at the start of this day. Was she literally planning on doing this all along, or did she just think she might need to resurrect two people? She didn't even know he was undead when she prepared spells
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Jan 1, 2019 01:57
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ikanreed posted:She didn't even know he was undead when she prepared spells Maybe she just keeps those spells prepared in case she has an opportunity to sell her death-defying services
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xanthan posted:So what's worse, alignment debates or classpect theorycrafting? Wrong edition. His domains are Storm and Good
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fool_of_sound posted:Wrong edition. His domains are Storm and Good
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Malpais Legate posted:What have you done?! I'm not sure what'll be worse, that or all the whiny rules pedantry about Durkon's raise penalties again.
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Jan 1, 2019 12:18
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Why did Durkon get resurrected in the clothes he died in, anyway?
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Tenebrais posted:Why did Durkon get resurrected in the clothes he died in, anyway? He didn’t? He got a True Rez after being dusted. For Roy, that meant returning naked, but I suppose being a high level cleric offers some extra perks for Durkon, such as a bit of dignity in temporary death.
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Jan 1, 2019 13:24
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Slashrat posted:He didn’t? Nah, just a regular rez.
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Jan 1, 2019 14:03
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Ah well, the salient point was that they both got resurrected from a state in which they had no whole corporal body left.
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Jan 1, 2019 14:24
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Durkon got dusted with his robes on; you can still see the tear from when he exposed his heart to Belkar. Roy died in his armor, but Haley eventually removed and put it in her bag of holding. I guess one of the benefits of disintegration is that your clothes are considered part of your remains.
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That's a neat detail, and suddenly makes me think that disintegration -> true resurrection might make for a secure storage system for characters of the evil inclination. Entrust the item you wish to store to a loyal but nameless, generic minion, disintegrate them at a time and location only you know and disperse the dust into the ocean/desert wind/whatever. True resurrect them again when you need the item by using the time and location of the death. Soul trap the minion's soul for good measure. Should any do-gooders somehow both release the minion's soul and get enough information to uniquely identity the minion afterward for a ress, you'd hopefully have selected a minion loyal enough to reject a ress from anyone not matching your alignment (or any alignment you designate). If you expect the competition to match you in the alignment department, you might also take the extra effort to make sure your minion is capable and equipped to put up a good fight (or else immediately escape and return to you) after the ress.
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That probably doesn't work though, because eventually said minion's soul will be absorbed into whatever afterlife they got sent to. And there's no guarantee if they have their items on the otherside that some demon won't steal them.
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Jan 1, 2019 16:12
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Just True Res them and re-do the disintegration every (caster level x 10) years. Simple!
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Android Blues posted:Just True Res them and re-do the disintegration every (caster level x 10) years. Simple! That's the thing, I don't think even True Res works after a point, your soul is gone forever after a certain point of stewing in the afterlife. Maybe if you also soul steal and keep the minion's soul in a gem for safe keeping it could work, but those magic items better be worth it.
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A minion that can cast True Resurrection is probably already thinking about becoming undead anyways. That seems like a pretty fragile situation.
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I think it also depends which afterlife you go to. Lemures in the Nine Hells, the Lawful Evil afterlife, are transformed from mortal souls into craven little goop monsters pretty much as soon as the souls arrive. Generally the "good" afterlives seem to have a longer expiration date on your individuality, so that would probably make it a better strategy for pulling off benevolent schemes than wicked ones.
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Jan 1, 2019 16:34
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Convince the minion to swear a blood oath that goes unfulfilled, and they'll be stuck outside the pearly gates forever.
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Android Blues posted:I think it also depends which afterlife you go to. Lemures in the Nine Hells, the Lawful Evil afterlife, are transformed from mortal souls into craven little goop monsters pretty much as soon as the souls arrive. Generally the "good" afterlives seem to have a longer expiration date on your individuality, so that would probably make it a better strategy for pulling off benevolent schemes than wicked ones. Well, we know from the Familicide saga that fiends can maintain the individuality of souls that catch their interest, so maybe the scheme can still be upheld if you bring on board a powerful being of the ventral planes and pledge your underling's soul to them. And really, what kind of artifact would you go to that effort to conceal if you're not dealing with great cosmic evils?
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