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One of the worst things Wizard seared into my brain was from one of their monthly top 10 heroes list. Caitlyn Fairchilde of Gen 13 was usually in the upper half while the book was popular (and when virtually no other female characters ever made the list) but someone thought a positive assessment was how she was sooooooo different from most heroines who were described as “oh no Cap’n Baddin tied me to the deflowering machine, eek!” 
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Nothing to do with anything but that darkseid av has always rocked.
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Dec 30, 2018 17:48
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:One of the worst things Wizard seared into my brain was from one of their monthly top 10 heroes list. Caitlyn Fairchilde of Gen 13 was usually in the upper half while the book was popular (and when virtually no other female characters ever made the list) but someone thought a positive assessment was how she was sooooooo different from most heroines who were described as “oh no Cap’n Baddin tied me to the deflowering machine, eek!” (See picture drawn by Adam Hughes attached to entry.) Although for serious, they did make great hay out of the fact she was ACTUALLY a nerd despite being an Amazonian beauty.
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Dec 30, 2018 18:03
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:One of the worst things Wizard seared into my brain was from one of their monthly top 10 heroes list. Caitlyn Fairchilde of Gen 13 was usually in the upper half while the book was popular (and when virtually no other female characters ever made the list) but someone thought a positive assessment was how she was sooooooo different from most heroines who were described as “oh no Cap’n Baddin tied me to the deflowering machine, eek!” For me I was reading an interview with Peter David in it and they were gushing over his latest work Sachs and Violens. I was like 11 at the time, found an issue used months later in a $.50 bin, and whoops it was pornography about a bunch of child pornographers who were making Barney themed torture porn
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Dec 30, 2018 19:01
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There is a new mutants issue that has illyana captured by Amora while she was wearing a bikini, and that certainly made me realize I liked girls when I was 10 or whatever age I was at when that issue came out. Though now the whole thing is super creepy and gross.
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Dec 30, 2018 19:25
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SUPERMAN'S GAL PAL posted:One of the worst things Wizard seared into my brain was from one of their monthly top 10 heroes list. Caitlyn Fairchilde of Gen 13 was usually in the upper half while the book was popular (and when virtually no other female characters ever made the list) but someone thought a positive assessment was how she was sooooooo different from most heroines who were described as “oh no Cap’n Baddin tied me to the deflowering machine, eek!” Don’t forget the “Babe of the Month” feature, which was a half page of them essentially saying how bad they want to gently caress whoever they picked while talking about how sexy she is. They added a “hunk of the month” after a while which was their way of saying “SEE!??? THEY DRAW HOT GUYS IN COMICS TOO!!!” The whole “bad girls” phase they initiated was probably the darkest time in comics. Go look up “Lady Rawhide” just to see how hosed up the mid 90s were.
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Dec 30, 2018 21:25
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GPTribefan posted:see how hosed up the mid 90s were. Wizard's fratty "heh heh check out her b00bs" vibe was pretty much of a piece with general pop culture.
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Dec 30, 2018 21:59
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I still remember being a kid at like 8 in 1998 and deciding to buy a She-Hulk comic because Hulk is rad, why not see She-Hulk? The issue was just absolutely full of barely concealed nudity and no actual superheroics or two-fisted lawyering, so much so my child brain said "...man they super should not have sold me this and I'll get in trouble for having it" and I gave it to my mom to hold on to and for years She-Hulk was just fetish bait in my head.
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Dec 30, 2018 23:32
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Hostile V posted:I still remember being a kid at like 8 in 1998 and deciding to buy a She-Hulk comic because Hulk is rad, why not see She-Hulk? The issue was just absolutely full of barely concealed nudity and no actual superheroics or two-fisted lawyering, so much so my child brain said "...man they super should not have sold me this and I'll get in trouble for having it" and I gave it to my mom to hold on to and for years She-Hulk was just fetish bait in my head. Byrne?
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Dec 31, 2018 00:38
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joehonkie posted:Byrne? There is that one Byrne issue where she's skipping rope while nude in what I assume is something that Byrne thinks is hilarious and meta.
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Dec 31, 2018 00:45
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joehonkie posted:Byrne? Yes, it was him. Jen was apart of Heroes For Hire and then, the Avengers in 1998.
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Dec 31, 2018 01:45
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It was likely Byrne. I just won't forget being a kid and seeing hero comics treat ladies like that and my reaction was never "hell yeah comics" but just "are these actually intended for me because this feels like an adult product and if this is the case I'll just stick to animated series". The 90s were bad. Real bad.
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Dec 31, 2018 01:51
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Dawgstar posted:There is that one Byrne issue where she's skipping rope while nude in what I assume is something that Byrne thinks is hilarious and meta. IIRC, something like that also happened in Austen's X-Men run. Stacy X was interested in Angel but later NOPE'd out of the X-Men because he was dating Cannonball's sister or something. So she left him some sleazy vid of her as some weird "I'm breaking up with you, so watch me skip rope nude so you'll know what you were missing." That moment stuck with me because it was such a loving bizarre thing in a run already full of bizarre choices. The idea of a sex worker who used their mutant powers for their job was an interesting idea, but the actual execution was just one big YIKES.
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Dec 31, 2018 02:23
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twistedmentat posted:There is a new mutants issue that has illyana captured by Amora while she was wearing a bikini, and that certainly made me realize I liked girls when I was 10 or whatever age I was at when that issue came out. This was Asgardian Wars by Art Adams. Think the New Mutants annual half. Just read it last week
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Dec 31, 2018 03:41
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hadji murad posted:This was Asgardian Wars by Art Adams. Think the New Mutants annual half. Just read it last week Yeah, New Mutants Special Edition #1 and X-Men Annual #9. I got that Asgardian Wars TPB at Waldenbooks way back in the late '80s, when I was in 5th or 6th grade, and back then, I was pleasantly surprised and a little shocked by how pretty Arthur Adams drew his ladies. Of course, Chris Claremont being a kinky perv had a lot to do with some of those choices as well (see also: the Hellfire Club's costumes, the Goblyn Queen's outfit, Psylocke's transformation, etc.)
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Dec 31, 2018 06:03
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Kalli posted:For me I was reading an interview with Peter David in it and they were gushing over his latest work Sachs and Violens. I was like 11 at the time, found an issue used months later in a $.50 bin, and whoops it was pornography about a bunch of child pornographers who were making Barney themed torture porn Peter David is generally a great writer, but when his writing drifts toward sex, things get weird. Like one time in X-Factor, Danger was curious about sex, so she had her way with Cypher as he was sleeping... and no one cared.
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Dec 31, 2018 10:17
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Thanks for reminding me about the time Peter David decided he wanted to do a She-slash-50s lost world exploitation film and ended up with two issues that have not aged well, like at all.
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Dec 31, 2018 13:01
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amigolupus posted:IIRC, something like that also happened in Austen's X-Men run. Stacy X was interested in Angel but later NOPE'd out of the X-Men because he was dating Cannonball's sister or something. So she left him some sleazy vid of her as some weird "I'm breaking up with you, so watch me skip rope nude so you'll know what you were missing." That moment stuck with me because it was such a loving bizarre thing in a run already full of bizarre choices. Pretty sure this was the same run when Angel and Paige boned in the sky above the Guthries' family farm while the whole family stood around watching I guess. It was a bad run.
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Jan 1, 2019 00:23
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Internet Wizard posted:Pretty sure this was the same run when Angel and Paige boned in the sky above the Guthries' family farm while the whole family stood around watching I guess. Ah, yes. Ask Chris posted:The scene got a lot of attention (for obvious reasons), and I can't even begin to figure out why anyone thought this scene was a good idea, but here's the thing: That's not even the weirdest thing in that story. That dubious honor goes to the fact that it's all based on Romeo & Juliet, to the point where there are lines lifted directly from Shakespeare and put into the characters' dialogue with no alteration. And it's not like they're meant to be quoting the play either -- it's just what they're saying.
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Jan 1, 2019 01:17
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so uh what did the Homestuck guy do
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Jan 1, 2019 23:22
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Best that I can tell Andrew Hussie made a teaser website for a new project which may be a prequel/epilogue to Homestuck. There was a timeline of events hidden in website source code that talked about the protagonist being a adolescent Adolf Hitler rise to power and how Einstien was the real driving force behind WW2 https://twitter.com/stackslip/status/1080216501075038213 It was quickly deleted and there some twitter people more observant with his style being skeptical if this really was the real Andrew Hussie. Hussie had made edgelord humor before and during Homestuck so it's not unrealistic he'd do this story.
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Jan 1, 2019 23:52
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Barry Convex posted:so uh what did the Homestuck guy do Isn't making Homestuck crime enough?
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Jan 1, 2019 23:53
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quote:Laurel, summoned by Jane and asked to bring Hardy, won't pass up this opportunity to go undercover inside the Crocker network. He has not been able to stop thinking about HIC since he saw her. At this point, he's confused about whether he wants to infiltrate to serve Chaplin, or whether he just wants to be close to her. On arriving, he quickly realizes that all of her affection is for Hardy. He begrudgingly must accept her affection for his partner in order to stay in her service though. Both he and Hardy are hired as her two right hand men, just as the James brothers once were. Although this time, only Laurel would do the legwork. Hardy would be kept exclusively as her lover, though he was effectively a sex slave. but basically, I don't really think this is comicsgate/industry terribleness homestuck is a webcomic that by now has mostly been forgotten. fans are mad but it's not really anything like the the other topics in thread
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Jan 2, 2019 04:40
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Hemingway To Go! posted:but basically, I don't really think this is comicsgate/industry terribleness Counterpoint: There is literally Homestuck merchandise in Target.
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Jan 2, 2019 07:16
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Viz just released the third volume of the physical version of Homestuck, and the fourth is releasing at the start of February. Homestuck is still around and not going anywhere for a while.
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Jan 2, 2019 09:07
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We are homestuck with that bullshit comic for at least another decade, so anti-semitic world war 2 fanfiction appearing under the label is cause for concern, especially since a lot of the fans are still relatively young and impressionable.
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Jan 2, 2019 16:25
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ImpAtom posted:The honest truth is that that is incredibly common in most segments of geek culture. Sexualizing teenage girls has been a comic staple for a long time and honestly it still shows up super frequently. It's not uncommon in movies or television shows (though at least there they are primarily actors over age) and of course with anime (and video games) 8 out of every 10 characters is a teenager. Case in point, this character is supposed to be fourteen years old: 
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Jan 2, 2019 18:19
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Alhazred posted:Case in point, this character is supposed to be fourteen years old: Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeesh.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:30
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Alhazred posted:Case in point, this character is supposed to be fourteen years old: Gainax, do you do this?
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Jan 2, 2019 20:46
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I mixed up Homestuck and Achewood so this has been a really confusing page
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Jan 2, 2019 20:49
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hussie apologizesquote:Originally there was some backstory content hidden in some cursed tags in this site code. I came up with the concepts years ago for internal purposes, not originally intended for public consumption. I thought some might find it interesting if the material were leaked in the site code in an obscure way. I think it has proven to be neither obscure as imagined, nor all that rewarding to read. The subject matter was inflammatory in careless ways, and the negative reactions to it are legitimate and should have been expected. A drafting process can be messy and can result in some ill-advised nonsense which often should not see the light of day. Letting a bunch of rough draft text files be deployed in this way was not a well considered move. Obviously this material has hurt a lot of people. Which isn't what I was going for, and didn't anticipate, but certainly should have. As far as the intentions behind it, I'm sure I believed it would be read as condemnation through satire, but instead it came off as excessively irreverent and disrespectful of a sensitive topic (to be clear, the main topic relates to antisemitism, which of course is not an issue that should be handled frivolously). After receiving criticism it's obvious to me where I'd been mistaken, and why no one could have possibly read it the way it was intended. I know this content was bad, I regret putting it in a place where people would discover it, and I regret that it was drafted in the first place. so basically it WAS hussie who wrote all that. make of that what you will. still think it's a far cry from the outright shittiness of most of the people discussed even though it's bad. it's just thoughtless comedy in an era where that is not really funny anymore because we have a direct connection to the opinions of the dumbest and worst of society and many of the have political power. The comic itself already had weird poo poo like this but not writ as large, but maybe that's been forgotten since Hussie himself has not been writing homestuck since middle of Act 6. Some wanted him back, because the writers who wrote for him were not very good, but probably not after this.
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Jan 2, 2019 21:09
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Leonard Pitts Jr., one of the Miami Herald's best columnists, who specializes in race-related issues and is an unabashed comic book geek, wrote a very good column about Comicsgate: https://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/opn-columns-blogs/leonard-pitts-jr/article223686400.html MY MOM reads the Herald every day and told me about the article, although she never includes links in her e-mails to me! She wrote: Lou's Mom posted:I just read a long, disconcerting article in Sunday's Herald about Comicsgate...and the angry guys who resent changes in the Marvel Universe. (And women writers, artists and heroes.)
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Jan 2, 2019 22:53
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Big Bad Voodoo Lou posted:MY MOM reads the Herald every day and told me about the article, although she never includes links in her e-mails to me! She wrote: YOUR MOM is pretty cool using the term 'Gads'.
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Jan 2, 2019 22:57
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Hemingway To Go! posted:hussie apologizes Yeah you need to remind and back up the "Homestuck was ghost written at the end" thing because it definitely wasn't and that sounds like a stupid conspiracy theory to explain why you didn't like the end
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Jan 3, 2019 05:19
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Samovar posted:YOUR MOM is pretty cool using the term 'Gads'. Honestly "Gads, what punks." is basically a brilliant and nearly Shakespearean way to sum up the whole thing.
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Jan 3, 2019 05:28
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Yeah you need to remind and back up the "Homestuck was ghost written at the end" thing because it definitely wasn't and that sounds like a stupid conspiracy theory to explain why you didn't like the end Fine, I was misremembering - I knew that he wrote most of it but I had been under the impression that it at the least had a team that had changed some of the direction, because of having to work on both the video game's troubled development and the comic itself. I cannot find reciepts for this. Still there's been minicomics by other writers and the video game (plus a bunch of "friendsims" I haven't played), and at the least for all the problems I've had with Homestuck I was not as impressed with those either.
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Jan 3, 2019 05:41
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Samovar posted:YOUR MOM is pretty cool using the term 'Gads'. joehonkie posted:Honestly "Gads, what punks." is basically a brilliant and nearly Shakespearean way to sum up the whole thing. Haha, thank you. She is a retired high school English teacher who spends most of her time writing poetry and children's books now. She has always had a way with words.
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Jan 3, 2019 06:35
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Sinners Sandwich posted:Best that I can tell Andrew Hussie made a teaser website for a new project which may be a prequel/epilogue to Homestuck. There was a timeline of events hidden in website source code that talked about the protagonist being a adolescent Adolf Hitler rise to power and how Einstien was the real driving force behind WW2 "Manhattan Projects is good, but what if Hitler was the hero" is a really dumb idea
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Jan 3, 2019 20:14
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lol Hussie is and has been a weirdo loving creep for a decade now.
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If it's not your story to share details about it's a breach of trust to share that story without permission.
Fangz fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Jan 4, 2019 |
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