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A month is a crazy long shutdown. The longest ever was 21 days.
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Jealous Cow posted:So when do Republicans start floating “the governments been shut down for weeks and nothing bad seems to have happened. See? We need smaller government anyway!” rather than actually fund the government. One time it was a huge salmonella outbreak.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:25
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Ok well then I retract the IRS stuff then and admit I'm a big dumb idiot. Also, Republicanism in a nutshell right here: https://twitter.com/JDiamond1/status/1080543494647754752?s=19
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Jan 2, 2019 20:26
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HappyHippo posted:A month is a crazy long shutdown. The longest ever was 21 days. I'm thinking we're breaking that record.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:26
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evilweasel posted:you can blame the rich all you want, just don't confuse assigning blame with analyzing what structural weaknesses were exploited and need to be fixed You can’t not look at who is to blame when class politics are at the root of the issue. If you don’t have a plan for keeping rich people from tainting the goal of Make Rich People Less Rich, then they’re gonna loving do it again. And you won’t be able to do that without assessing blame, which will be helpful both from a process perspective (“We won’t hire economists paid for by the Koch brothers.”) as well as political perspective (“the Koch brothers are wealthy because you are not, voters.”) The structural weakness cannot be fixed without the understanding of who created and keeps creating the problem, which is not about an independent, nameable group of actors you blame, because that lets the ruling class as a whole off the hook. No war but class war.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:27
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https://twitter.com/JDiamond1/status/1080542835647090689
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Jan 2, 2019 20:27
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https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1080504001123237889 https://twitter.com/thehill/status/1080507540717428738
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Jan 2, 2019 20:28
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The primary structural weakness I see is in this here guillotine; I don't think 'ol Louis can handle the number of necks he's gonna need to go through without some refurbishin'
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Jan 2, 2019 20:28
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sexpig by night posted:why is she even trying this It's not a self-own if Pelosi gets exactly what she wants out of pay-go: a rotating villain that isn't tied to a particular member of Congress that can take the blame when Dems claim that better things aren't possible, and a way to placate corporate donors at the same time. The upside is that Dem stunts like this are being called out by the newer members of Congress, and Dem pols are having a harder time pretending they're for things like M4A unless their actions actually support those things, as in opposing this particular rules change.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:28
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Trump, always wise, answered the reporter's third question, as to how long it would take to remove the US military presence in Syria: In Mexico is the Border Wall, which is mostly built and steel slats and see-through. Every 100 days, the government shuts down sharpening its budget on that wall. When the whole of Washington is overflowing with garbage, then the first second of Infrastructure Week will be over.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:29
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Frankly, as an outside observer, I am still a bit in awe at the entire concept of a government shutdown. The idea that a government can be legitimately in power without the basic ability to agree on how to fund its operations is wild. That the US system defaults to "shut down government operations" instead of "bring down the government" in such a case is even more insane.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:29
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Ague Proof posted:https://twitter.com/thedailybeast/status/1080504001123237889 if the new dem message is 'no, you don't understand, we want right wingers to die' I'm votin for it
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Jan 2, 2019 20:30
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I've got to grab another TN visa when I travel for a business trip in a week. I'm not looking forward to how grumpy the customs and border guys going to be after not being paid for a month.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:30
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just remembered that this shutdown was caused by the television being mean to donald.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:31
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Willa Rogers posted:It's not a self-own if Pelosi gets exactly what she wants out of pay-go: a rotating villain that isn't tied to a particular member of Congress that can take the blame when Dems claim that better things aren't possible, and a way to placate corporate donors at the same time. yea more or less what I was getting around with the 'why does it matter if she's gonna allow exceptions then' question. It's so transparently a way to say 'aw gee these socialists don't get it, we CAN'T do medicare for all because of evil paygo!'
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Jan 2, 2019 20:31
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Checks out, if corporations are people then instigating the dissolution of an incorporated entity is murder
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Jan 2, 2019 20:32
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Honestly the debate happening here about "rich people" misses an important point, and that's because the posts I've seen thus far only talk about how to deal with that problem under the system of laws in this country. To that idea I say: good loving luck. Stuff like the Panama Papers and other similar leaks over the last few years should have demonstrated that there's a level of wealth you attain where laws of a particular country no longer apply to you. Not sure how you combat this without the whole Western World coordinating together and even then, not sure how best to crack that nut.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:32
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Groovelord Neato posted:just remembered that this shutdown was caused by the television being mean to donald. His presidency too
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Jan 2, 2019 20:33
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Groovelord Neato posted:just remembered that this shutdown was caused by the television being mean to donald. fox news has more power than ever before
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Jan 2, 2019 20:33
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ZypherIM posted:Fake families.. is that like marrying someone for a visa and having a kid to make sure you keep it? No, DHS is alleging that people are banding together who are not related at all, in the hopes that they can convince the US that they are families so they'll be treated like families, ie: released... but then disappear into the countryside like contra trainees.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:34
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gingrich shut down the government because clinton had him seated in the back of air force one on a flight back from israel.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:35
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VH4Ever posted:Honestly the debate happening here about "rich people" misses an important point, and that's because the posts I've seen thus far only talk about how to deal with that problem under the system of laws in this country. To that idea I say: good loving luck. Stuff like the Panama Papers and other similar leaks over the last few years should have demonstrated that there's a level of wealth you attain where laws of a particular country no longer apply to you. Not sure how you combat this without the whole Western World coordinating together and even then, not sure how best to crack that nut. Step 1: take as much of their wealth as you can. Can’t take those factories, estates and US bank accounts with you when you flounce off to Costa Rica.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:36
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I was once fortunate enough to do improv with Jane Curtin and I fully support just giving her an ax and letting her kill whoever she wants, honestly.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:36
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Between busting out that awful sanctions are coming poster and the "sand and death" thing, I'm going to bet Donnie's spent his holiday break watching Game of Thrones. I know because so have I 
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Jan 2, 2019 20:36
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https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1080544047587094529 https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1080546109301420037 how is any of this poo poo real.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:37
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Crow Jane posted:Between busting out that awful sanctions are coming poster and the "sand and death" thing, I'm going to bet Donnie's spent his holiday break watching Game of Thrones. I know because so have I He'd just watch the supercut of all the nudes.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:38
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So much pearl-clutching going on in the comments of this one.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:39
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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion: Check The Stickied Charity Thread > USPOL Winter: All alone with the machine-gunners.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:41
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reminds me of this:  charlie kirk loving wrote about this in his book and called farrar a "liberal journalist" lmao
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Jan 2, 2019 20:43
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selec posted:Step 1: take as much of their wealth as you can. Can’t take those factories, estates and US bank accounts with you when you flounce off to Costa Rica. I think people are getting hung up on how you never address the next wave of rich people that overthrow the old rich people. What is a rich person? What creates a rich person? How do we break the cycle and empower people to rise up against rich people?
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Jan 2, 2019 20:43
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Bicyclops posted:He'd just watch the supercut of all the nudes. Weirdly, I feel like Trump probably doesn't recognize implant-less boobs
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Jan 2, 2019 20:44
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skylined! posted:Garbage cans outside the White House are also overflowing with waste so uh, it’s going to be hard to deny. How long till he just hires some crooked contractors from Whitefish, MT to come "clean up" the garbage and reopen the national parks
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Jan 2, 2019 20:45
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Chilichimp posted:No, DHS is alleging that people are banding together who are not related at all, in the hopes that they can convince the US that they are families so they'll be treated like families, ie: released... but then disappear into the countryside like contra trainees. I was talking about melania, but you missed it.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:45
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https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1080539327766106112?s=21 Christ
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Jan 2, 2019 20:46
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finally got around to reading the falwell wapo interview. very cool of the interviewer not to push back on falwell claiming trump did better than most presidents during their first midterm.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:47
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CmdrRiker posted:I think people are getting hung up on how you never address the next wave of rich people that overthrow the old rich people. What is a rich person? What creates a rich person? How do we break the cycle and empower people to rise up against rich people? Part of this is a culture that worships rich people as if they're God figures. That's part of what lets them skate by when they rob or defraud people. The common folks want to be free to rob and defraud when they're rich too. Groovelord Neato posted:https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1080544047587094529 We uh, really need to have a concrete 25th Amendment discussion. I mean no joke. He's not well. What condition he has I can't be sure of but those are not the words of a "all is well!" man. Not that anyone should care but he sounds...despondent. Sad. Alone (he should be alone but not alone and in possession of the nuclear football). Guys like that are unpredictable, and added with his natural unpredictability who knows what happens next.
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Jan 2, 2019 20:47
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Data Graham posted:How long till he just hires some crooked contractors from Whitefish, MT to come "clean up" the garbage and reopen the national parks I'll have you know whitefish is a perfectly fine place. A bit small, but if you're going to be going to the better national park options you'll be stopping by most likely (glacier is easily better than yellowstone).
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Jan 2, 2019 20:47
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A snake, shoving its head up its own rear end in a top hat, forever
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Jan 2, 2019 20:48
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fishing with the fam posted:I'm thinking we're breaking that record. What are the odds that Trump brags about having the longest shutdown ever?
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Groovelord Neato posted:https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1080544047587094529 Why the heck don't the gun nuts yell at him for that? Every time someone mistakes a clip for a mag they are ready but our big wet president calls all rifles machine guns and its just like - whatevs. (also beyond that our president is just loving surreal)
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