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Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

Typo posted:

Of course, poster Modest Mao first unironically perpetuate propaganda brought by the anti-party gang of four (the leader of which admitted she never understood Maoism while beguiling Mao and responsible for his 30% bad) against Deng over 1976 and then unironically perpetuate propaganda against the party

The Chinese leadership acknowledged that most of the students had legitimate demands, but at the same time, had proof that "bad elements" within the protests were directed by USA, Taiwan, and Hong Kong to use and manipulate protests as a "command center" for a final showdown against the party, annihilate socialism, destroy Chinese sovereignty, and return colonialism. While not mentioning that 95% of protests in 1989 were diffused peacefully and protesters went home satisfied that the government will change for the better. While not mentioning at all that Marxist-Leninist-Dengism brought more people out of poverty than any other country in history and continues to guide China's advancement into 21st century socialism. This is the sort of social fascism that must be struggled against.

this is really gross behavior

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Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Modest Mao posted:

this is really gross behavior

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Modest Mao posted:

It's like extremely bad analysis to say that normal people coming to the halls of power for various reasons and being run over by military hardware

is the same as Yeltsin standing on a tank and then a coup attempt shooting into the parliament

I don't think we are even talking about the same coup, the coup you are thinking of is the 1993 Russian constitutional crisis which occurred after the USSR fell, that's distinct from the 1991 August coup which precipitated the fall of the USSR

Typo has issued a correction as of 01:18 on Jan 3, 2019

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

Typo posted:

I don't think we are even talking about the same coup, the coup you are thinking of is the 1993 Russian constitutional crisis which occurred after the USSR fell, that's distinct from the 1991 August coup which precipitated the fall of the USSR

You're right my brain merged parts of those events in a very confusing way

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
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sincx has issued a correction as of 05:27 on Mar 23, 2021

get that OUT of my face
Feb 10, 2007

https://twitter.com/getfiscal/status/1080602170838446085

goddamn you, dengists. goddamn you all to hell

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

sincx posted:

Typo does pose an interesting philosophical dilemma: if a gimmick poster is so good at his gimmick that he's indistinguishable from a real poster with the gimmick's beliefs, does it become worth while to seriously debate with the gimmick?

Personally I still lean towards it's a waste of time, but on the other hand mock debates are popular and considered meaningful.

A Room with Chinese Characteristics, formulating perfectly calibrated gimmick posts without ever earnestly believing the ideology they're shilling for.

Sheng-Ji Yang posted:

yes and it sucks real bad and im not sure why people got mad when i probated him for it

truly a shame how few posters appreciate the sacrifices made every day by our forums' brave junior internet cops, putting their social lives on the line to give 6 hour probations to posters who annoy them

Fallen Hamprince has issued a correction as of 03:48 on Jan 3, 2019

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

sincx posted:

Is Typo still gimmick posting, or what?

this dude did it better

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

mila kunis posted:

this dude did it better



is this postmodernism?

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

is this postmodernism?

It's literally marginal utility economic theory laid bare

Grapplejack
Nov 27, 2007


typo has surpassed the master. he has killed the buddha on the road and is now enlightened beyond mortal understanding

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Atrocious Joe
Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1080501477733330944

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Fallen Hamprince posted:

A Room with Chinese Characteristics, formulating perfectly calibrated gimmick posts without ever earnestly believing the ideology they're shilling for.




oh gently caress

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013


the Obama FP is back y'all

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Fallen Hamprince posted:

A Room with Chinese Characteristics, formulating perfectly calibrated gimmick posts without ever earnestly believing the ideology they're shilling for.

all is forgiven

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

the Obama FP is back y'all

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0IWe11RWOM

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013


Ignoring Russia and doing the "East Asia Pivot" is literally Obama's FP, it's too funny

Kurnugia
Sep 2, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Fallen Hamprince posted:

A Room with Chinese Characteristics, formulating perfectly calibrated gimmick posts without ever earnestly believing the ideology they're shilling for.

Ah, greetings

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

as expected the US will employ its full arsenal to derail the rise of 21st century Socialism, another reason why unity among the Chinese proletariat to stand behind the party and President Xi more than ever

Typo has issued a correction as of 17:23 on Jan 3, 2019

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

chairman typo soldiers on

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
.

sincx has issued a correction as of 05:27 on Mar 23, 2021

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

Fallen Hamprince posted:

A Room with Chinese Characteristics, formulating perfectly calibrated gimmick posts without ever earnestly believing the ideology they're shilling for.

this is amazing

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004

hold on, I think I figured it out

Typo posted:

rural whites liked third way Democrats because third-way Democrats framed their welfare reforms as punishing the "lazy" and rewarding the "hard-working". The whole point of welfare reform was to link government assistance to work to appease racial resentment on the part of rural whites who saw welfare as rewarding Cadillac driving welfare queens. Rural white America hates the "unvirtuous" poor below them as much as the coastal elites above them.

bill clinton was popular in rural america, and continued to be all the way up to maybe 2016 if not today. Rural America is not some hotspring of leftism just waiting for a socialist savior to come along.

*flips switch*

Typo posted:

rural Chinese liked the centrist reformers because the centrist reformers framed their political reforms as punishing the "lazy" and rewarding the "hard-working". The whole point of political reform was to link government development to party apparatchik to appease political resentment on the part of rural Chinese who saw reform as rewarding Cadillac driving party bosses. Rural China hates the "unvirtuous" party above them as much as the party elite above them.

deng was popular in rural china, and continued to be all the way up to maybe 1989 if not today. Rural China is not some hotspring of leftism just waiting for a socialist savior to come along.

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Victory Position posted:

hold on, I think I figured it out


*flips switch*

some day, Typo will realize the joke in how effortlessly his usual apologia on behalf of the people who brought you President Donald Trump transfers into apologia for someone ostensibly opposed to everything he pretends to believe.

ideally this day will come before he starts explaining why democrats tossing mexican children into death camps is less harmful to the left than aoc calling socialism a good idea on instagram, but we can't have everything

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

the chinese communist party (which is good) is definitely the same thing as the clinton era democratic party (very bad). you guys sure got typo on that one

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Fallen Hamprince posted:

the chinese communist party (which is good) is definitely the same thing as the clinton era democratic party (very bad). you guys sure got typo on that one

c'mon, hamprince. where's the appreciation for an imperial authority showing those idiot rurals what's what

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Victory Position posted:

hold on, I think I figured it out


*flips switch*

WRONG

Deng's reform was popular in rural China because they transferred the means of production from party cadres back to the farmers themselves in the household responsibility system, thus democratizing the rural economy by taking it out of hands of the state thus bringing China closer to true stateless Communism. This was done by ending the Commune system which was based on failed, revisionist Soviet model of agriculture which was unsuited for China's historical and material conditions.

Typo has issued a correction as of 01:46 on Jan 4, 2019

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:

some day, Typo will realize the joke in how effortlessly his usual apologia on behalf of the people who brought you President Donald Trump transfers into apologia for someone ostensibly opposed to everything he pretends to believe.

ideally this day will come before he starts explaining why democrats tossing mexican children into death camps is less harmful to the left than aoc calling socialism a good idea on instagram, but we can't have everything

once again, a white social fascist who knows nothing about China tries to interrupt discussion about China with USA "politics", under which he probably votes for a candidate and thus help prop up the very capitalist bourgeois system he hates. In the meantime, he's probably secretly jealous of the success of Chinese Socialism while blaming his fellow internet posters for the failures of American-style so-called "Socialism" which can never be achieved under current USA ruling class.

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

china does show us that it sometimes takes strong, visionary leadership to guide rural people to a brighter future, even if that visionary leadership's questionable grasp of agriculture and metalurgy causes large segments of said people to starve to death

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004


you can't expect this kind of reverse engineering to work perfectly on the first pass!!!

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

Victory Position posted:

you can't expect this kind of reverse engineering to work perfectly on the first pass!!!

No problem comrade, so long as you make the appropriate self-criticism to rectify your error!

sincx
Jul 13, 2012

furiously masturbating to anime titties
.

sincx has issued a correction as of 05:27 on Mar 23, 2021

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

sincx posted:

I'm not sure I like the dem succ thread leaking into here.

Social Fascists like poster "Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!" view many hours of "yellow peril" propaganda by capitalist USA propaganda TV networks such as CNN. Thus he, subconsciousness, is deeply enraged when he sees the success of Chinese Socialism over and above America because of propaganda-induced racism and tries to direct his anger in a series of baseless accusations towards his fellow posters by dragging content in from other threads.

While "Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!" is obviously a victim of capitalism like any other, I strongly suggest that the comrade make the appropriate self-criticism and struggle against his own innate racism.

mila kunis
Jun 10, 2011

sincx posted:

I'm not sure I like the dem succ thread leaking into here.

leak off to d&d

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo
The idea that china is way more scary than russia (which is pretty much almost a failed state at this point) is correct, what is not correct is that level of scary necessitates a response. South and NK reunifying would strike a big blow against the Chinese but absolutely none of the anti-china FP people support reconciliation with the north

Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Venom Snake posted:

The idea that china is way more scary than russia (which is pretty much almost a failed state at this point) is correct, what is not correct is that level of scary necessitates a response. South and NK reunifying would strike a big blow against the Chinese but absolutely none of the anti-china FP people support reconciliation with the north

The US wants Korea to remain divided so it can keep the 8th army parked on China's doorstep.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/isgoodrum/status/1080993790473711621?s=19

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

Ace of Baes posted:

The US wants Korea to remain divided so it can keep the 8th army parked on China's doorstep.

I know, but losing North Korea as a client state it can exert almost absolute control over as a buffer would be a way bigger blow than the U.S. keeping a bunch of troops in SK.

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Ace of Baes
Jul 7, 1977

Venom Snake posted:

I know, but losing North Korea as a client state it can exert almost absolute control over as a buffer would be a way bigger blow than the U.S. keeping a bunch of troops in SK.

The RoKs primary reason for keeping so much US military around is because of the DPRK and China, a unified Korea could swing left and reduce or even eliminate US troop presence in the region. The mic wants the Korean situation to remain as is, a scary threat that justifies billions in defense expenditures and posturing towards China.

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