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Rigel
Nov 11, 2016

fishing with the fam posted:

Then blow up the wall in 2021

We can make a joint military competition out of it. Assign a few hundred miles of wall to our armed forces, another few hundred to Mexico, and see who can blow their portion of the wall up first.

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Mind_Taker
May 7, 2007



eke out posted:

florida went nearly perfectly 50/50 and just reinfranchised 1.4M felons, please stop telling people to give up when we're in a period that desperately needs organization and engagement

one democrat actually did win statewide office, for instance: our weed lobbyist agricultural commissioner who ran on more stringent gun licenses and legal weed (yes, the AgCom here controls both to greater or lesser extent)

A few pages back, but yes you're right and I apologize for seeming all fatalistic. Gillum's loss in particular still stings me.

A better statement would be "do everything possible to win Florida, but for the love of God have several other paths to win that do not include Florida's EVs."

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

If you see this avatar while scrolling the succ zone, you have been visited by the mcmagic of shitty lib takes! Good luck and prosperity will come to you, but only if you reply "shut the fuck up mcmagic" to this post!

haveblue posted:

Don't most of the ultra wealthy have relatively low incomes and make most of their money in financial markets?

Yeah. It we would need to do more than just raise marginal rates.

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

Still not as high as it was during the Eisenhower era

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002

Eeyo posted:

I have no idea what SAM is, but it appears that https://beta.sam.gov works ok, so maybe it's just that SAM Classic™ is down?

I use it monthly to see if any of our contractors have done anything to exclude them from receiving federal contracts. One of our clients (we're a staffing agency) requires us to do it.

That beta site doesn't appear to have the exclusion search that I need, so it's not much help :/

Kammat
Feb 9, 2008
Odd Person

KickerOfMice posted:

As much as an insult as it might have been intended to be, that's a pretty concise explanation! :q:

For us older folks, the classic "I'm Just a Bill!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFroMQlKiag

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

bobjr posted:

I do find it funny how some people are impressed by Donald Trump’s “come to me and tell me you’ll give me everything I want” style of negotiation.

These are normally people that just buy into the old "He's rich, therefor everything he does is a masterstroke of business". I mean the ones that are genuinely impressed and aren't just praising it because "Trump r me president *drool*".
He's managed to frame himself as a great businessman mainly because every time he crashed he had daddy or someone to borrow a shitton of money from and bolster his fuckup while riding class 11 bankruptcy regulations which pretty much just wipe the debt slate clean and hammer his credit rating a bit.

The ultimate irony of all of this is that in his effort to feed his ego and be the most popular guy ever he hosed his brand name over for generations down. His brand now is poo poo, Ivanka's brand name is poo poo, and for the forseeable future anyone else born to the family will have a poo poo brand name. He's pretty much wrecked his dynasty

KickerOfMice
Jun 7, 2017

[/color]Keep firing, assholes![/color]

Spaceballs the custom title.
Fun Shoe

Kammat posted:

For us older folks, the classic "I'm Just a Bill!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFroMQlKiag

Quiet, william, we're listening to Steven Miller in here!

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

SocketWrench posted:

These are normally people that just buy into the old "He's rich, therefor everything he does is a masterstroke of business". I mean the ones that are genuinely impressed and aren't just praising it because "Trump r me president *drool*".
He's managed to frame himself as a great businessman mainly because every time he crashed he had daddy or someone to borrow a shitton of money from and bolster his fuckup while riding class 11 bankruptcy regulations which pretty much just wipe the debt slate clean and hammer his credit rating a bit.

The ultimate irony of all of this is that in his effort to feed his ego and be the most popular guy ever he hosed his brand name over for generations down. His brand now is poo poo, Ivanka's brand name is poo poo, and for the forseeable future anyone else born to the family will have a poo poo brand name. He's pretty much wrecked his dynasty

One can only hope that if his children end up changing their name they do it while he's still alive to see it.

eke out
Feb 24, 2013



Squalid posted:

Five billion was what Trump wanted for the wall this year though no?

you're not wrong, but 5B-for-the-wall was never on the table as a trade for DACA. instead, republicans were hoping to revive the grand bargain of 25B-for-DACA

the five billion is what trump wants for his gently caress-you-there-is-no-quo tantrum lol. as the Post reported, his underlings are trying to get Dems to give like two point five billion as a compromise, but since Trump has repeatedly said he won't accept anything less than 5, Schumer and co have been basically ignoring those offers.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


selec posted:

Hey, how lovely of a reporter do you have to be to get literally bodyslammed by a candidate and not be able or willing to turn that into a point in your life where you decide to become a bloody-eyed crusader who refuses to ever be bodyslammed again, and instead remain the kind of spineless dipshit people feel comfortable knowing there will be no meaningful consequences for bodyslamming?

This lovely:

https://twitter.com/Bencjacobs/status/1081218768829906944

wish she had decked him.

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:

Precisely. I was posting here in support of the DACA for wall deal when it came up, but not now. I can still stomach wall funding for the right concessions, but the previous deal should stay dead, it's not enough.

In my opinion, if there was a deal (I'm not convinced any would be a good idea at this point), it would have to bring a significant increase in legal immigration/asylum seekers into the US. So basically there can be funding for construction of a wall, but if an asylum seeker shows up at the border they're let in and treated well and ordinary migrants who want to work in the US are also let in and given a path to citizenship. Plus also significant reduction in deportation obviously.

That still may be a bad idea since Trump would 'win'. The bad part of constructing a wall is the inherent racism of it and the extent to which it would prevent people from entering the US. So in order for there to be a wall we'd have to make entry to the country not racist and easy. Of course that will never happen so I guess I'm saying that there shouldn't be a deal.

twice burned ice
Dec 29, 2008

My stove defies the laws of physics!

SocketWrench posted:


The ultimate irony of all of this is that in his effort to feed his ego and be the most popular guy ever he hosed his brand name over for generations down. His brand now is poo poo, Ivanka's brand name is poo poo, and for the forseeable future anyone else born to the family will have a poo poo brand name. He's pretty much wrecked his dynasty

For 65% of the country, sure.


There still remains that rabid 35% who would buy rainbow-striped butt plugs as long as TRUMP is pasted on them, all while supporting anti-sodomy laws.

double nine
Aug 8, 2013

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1080981651222597633

Why I love trainwrecks

friendbot2000
May 1, 2011

Rigel posted:

Thats an interesting thought. What would I be willing to give up in exchange for $25B for the wall? (and its not just about the money, its a racist monument that would discourage a chunk of our base for a while, it would give Trump a "win", etc)

DACA would only be a start, I'd also need Obamacare fixes, and a MASSIVE tax reform. I'm not just talking about undoing Ryan's tax bill and going back to 2016 either, I'm talking about making the brackets a lot more progressive. I'd probably want some social security fixes as well.

Yeah, except I would need all that poo poo upfront. None of this gentleman's agreement bullshit.

I would also want massive Investment in green energy production, expanding the mandate of the EPA and putting protections and regs into law so they can't be overturned by chuds, massive amounts of cleanup funding for Superfund sites(especially the nuclear facility in Washington/Oregon because its going to leak into the Columbia River soon), funding the criminal investigation wing of the IRS and setting them loose upon rich tax cheats.

Pressure on D.C. to lift its building height laws would be a nice to have too so cost of living can be driven down in the area.

Also, investment in affordable housing and reparations for redlining and demolishing middle-class minority neighborhoods(to build the interstates). These reparations can be interest-free loans, government subsidies for minority home buyers, loan forgiveness, etc. Also, I want Wells Fargo burned to the ground.

The constant shafting of PoC preventing them from accruing any kind of equity or wealth needs to loving stop and some serious reparations need to be made by this country.

These are just a few things off the top of my head.

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

haveblue posted:

One can only hope that if his children end up changing their name they do it while he's still alive to see it.

A bunch of previously Trump named things like hotels, casinos, and other properties took down their Trump names because they saw what was happening.

twice burned ice
Dec 29, 2008

My stove defies the laws of physics!
.

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

Well now he definitely won't do it

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002


I'm assuming this is just a formality thing for something that was always going happen?

twice burned ice posted:

:siren:ALERT:siren:

The Speaker of the House is doing that thing that every Speaker has done for 200 years!

Yeah that's what I thought

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer
lol I survived my trip to San Antonio, glad to wake up to Republicans and the media crying because a Democratic politician used a naughty word to describe our orange fascist president.

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009




Trump's previous State of the Unions have been boring snooze fests where he read a lovely republican speech from a teleprompter.

This one's got a much better chance of ending with Trump having a meltdown.

Eltoasto
Aug 26, 2002

We come spinning out of nothingness, scattering stars like dust.



https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1081234130841600000

Thankfully her scandalous dancing has been pushed aside because naughty words

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

twice burned ice posted:

For 65% of the country, sure.


There still remains that rabid 35% who would buy rainbow-striped butt plugs as long as TRUMP is pasted on them, all while supporting anti-sodomy laws.

Yeah, but they're all too poor to buy any of his glittery bullshit because they keep blindly pulling R and voting in the fuckers that take more money away. Look at all the idiot farmers that voted for him and still would that lost a shitton because of the tariff wars. And the idiots in the steel industry that backed him only to eat it because of tariffs. Or the dumbshits in coal that he hasn't done anything for.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

haveblue posted:

One can only hope that if his children end up changing their name they do it while he's still alive to see it.

His kids should burn too.

friendbot2000
May 1, 2011

Eltoasto posted:

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1081234130841600000

Thankfully her scandalous dancing has been pushed aside because naughty words

The GOPs attitude towards women having any sort of personality reaches the levels of crazy of Boston Corbett castrating himself because he was tempted by a prostitute.

CmdrRiker
Apr 8, 2016

You dismally untalented little creep!

Lightning Knight posted:

lol I survived my trip to San Antonio, glad to wake up to Republicans and the media crying because a Democratic politician used a naughty word to describe our orange fascist president.

Calling the president a motherfucker is boring. Calling your representative and calling them a motherfucker for supporting the president is badass.

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

SocketWrench posted:

Yeah, but they're all too poor to buy any of his glittery bullshit because they keep blindly pulling R and voting in the fuckers that take more money away. Look at all the idiot farmers that voted for him and still would that lost a shitton because of the tariff wars. And the idiots in the steel industry that backed him only to eat it because of tariffs. Or the dumbshits in coal that he hasn't done anything for.

I think they still buy his poo poo, though, no matter how overpriced and unnecessary. Aren't MAGA caps like forty bucks?

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

PhazonLink posted:

His kids should burn too.

Eh, Barron deserves a chance to repudiate the legacy, he's still so young compared to the rest of them.

(he won't tho)

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

PhazonLink posted:

His kids should burn too.

I'm holding out on Barron. Maybe seeing daddy crash and burn for being who he is will serve as some insight

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room
Melania's a piece of poo poo too, I'm not sure how much of a chance Barron has

SocketWrench
Jul 8, 2012

by Fritz the Horse

Crow Jane posted:

I think they still buy his poo poo, though, no matter how overpriced and unnecessary. Aren't MAGA caps like forty bucks?

7 bucks at Walmart, 4 on ebay

40 bucks maybe if you go the platinum level with the extra bells and whistles plus the promise Trump drug his toad across the bill

Fritz Coldcockin
Nov 7, 2005

SocketWrench posted:

These are normally people that just buy into the old "He's rich, therefor everything he does is a masterstroke of business". I mean the ones that are genuinely impressed and aren't just praising it because "Trump r me president *drool*".
He's managed to frame himself as a great businessman mainly because every time he crashed he had daddy or someone to borrow a shitton of money from and bolster his fuckup while riding class 11 bankruptcy regulations which pretty much just wipe the debt slate clean and hammer his credit rating a bit.

The ultimate irony of all of this is that in his effort to feed his ego and be the most popular guy ever he hosed his brand name over for generations down. His brand now is poo poo, Ivanka's brand name is poo poo, and for the forseeable future anyone else born to the family will have a poo poo brand name. He's pretty much wrecked his dynasty

The chuds like to argue against this by saying "You're just picking on him for the few bankruptcies he's declared, he's had hundreds of successful business ventures!"

In response I like to tell the story of MacGregor the old Scotsman. MacGregor walked into a bar one evening, ordered a drink, and sat there looking melancholy until the bartender asked him what was wrong.

"You know that barn out back of my house?" MacGregor said. "Built it with me own two hands, but no one ever calls me MacGregor the barn-raiser."

After a second drink, MacGregor continued, "You know the dock on the lake outside a' town? I built that dock too, but no one ever calls me MacGregor the dock-builder."

After a third drink, MacGregor groused, "But God...you gently caress just one goat, and..."

I don't care how many successes Donald Trump has had, it's his failures that mark him as an incompetent boob, and when you bankrupt a loving casino that is the financial equivalent of loving a goat. He will forever be Trump the goatfucker.

selec
Sep 6, 2003
Probation
Can't post for 3 hours!

Crow Jane posted:

Melania's a piece of poo poo too, I'm not sure how much of a chance Barron has

He’s already lost:

https://mobile.twitter.com/vrunt/status/824427252767133696?lang=en

Dick Trauma
Nov 30, 2007

God damn it, you've got to be kind.

Crow Jane posted:

Melania's a piece of poo poo too, I'm not sure how much of a chance Barron has

Kids often rebel against their parents. :pray:

Crow Jane
Oct 18, 2012

nothin' wrong with a lady drinkin' alone in her room

I mean, my dislike of anime aside, that honestly is pretty drat good for a kid his age. Huh.

Nazzadan
Jun 22, 2016




The Spyro art owns, tbh.

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

I'm 99% sure Spyro is in that second picture and therefore I can't hate Barron no matter how otherwise strange his art is.

Really tho that's about what I'd expect a 10-12 year old boy who watches modern cartoons and plays video games to be into.

friendbot2000
May 1, 2011

Crow Jane posted:

I mean, my dislike of anime aside, that honestly is pretty drat good for a kid his age. Huh.

Yeah, barring the huge tits on every woman....it really isn't bad for a young kid. He has raw talent.

I hope he continues and maybe becomes a super hippie artist.

CmdrRiker
Apr 8, 2016

You dismally untalented little creep!


Nah, that's just showing his love of anime. I drew/draw the same stuff.

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bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

If politicians start copying AOC we’re going to get a very awkward dance video soon

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